Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> said: [Citing Brooks:] ... Hmm. He isn't by chance sneering about the average quality of said programming system here, is...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:23 pm
... From: "Keith Paton" <paton@... ... It's quite possible. A lot of intelligent people like that quote. It's rather a pet peeve of mine. ... If you've...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:25 pm
... From: "Keith Paton" <paton@...> ... Well, what I said still stands: _I_'ve never heard anyone propose it. :) I just hope that the OP didn't think my...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:29 pm
... From: "Joshua Macy/Towers Perrin" <macyj@...> ... simpler ... OK. But replace "simple" with any other "good" quality, and you have an equally true...
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Joshua Macy/Towers Pe...
macyj@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:43 pm
Well, since at least three times in the history of astronomy models of the motions of the planets of the solar system had to be scrapped as being (in essence)...
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Morris, Chris
ChrisM@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:44 pm
... I'd say many do, otherwise Einstein wouldn't be quoted so much. I've worked with a lot of PHBs who fail to grasp that reality is more complex than they'd...
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Eric Rizzo
eric.rizzo@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:51 pm
... I tend to include JavaDoc comments for method return values and arguments when, for example, I want to include some requirement of an argument (such as...
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Jean-Marc Heneman
jmh@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:55 pm
You mean Montreal, Quebec, Canada? If it is the case, I know some people that may be interested... Jean-Marc...
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Ken Boyer
ken@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:55 pm
... From: Kent Quirk <kent_quirk@...> Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 12:16 PM ... A source file is the fork - that's MY point :-) Get up and get another...
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cg@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:56 pm
... Einstein meant this one for management... -- Cees de Groot http://www.cdegroot.com <cg@...> GnuPG 1024D/E0989E8B 0016 F679 F38D...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 5:58 pm
... From: "Morris, Chris" <ChrisM@...> ... I don't know. I think it's just a cool-sounding quote. :) But when you analyze it, it really doesn't...
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Eric Rizzo
eric.rizzo@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:01 pm
... I have to disagree with that simplification. My undergrad degree is in EE, and I taught an EE lab course while in grad school, so I know a _little_ about ...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:08 pm
... From: "Joshua Macy/Towers Perrin" <macyj@...> ... Actually, the Copernican model was much simpler than its predecessor (you mentioned epicycles). ...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:10 pm
... From: "Eric Rizzo" <eric.rizzo@...> ... when, ... null is ... which ... some ... That's how I use them, too (and in general, they've turned out to...
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ian.rae@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:22 pm
... People ... differentiation ... is in EE, and ... _little_ about ... trying to ... words I've ... software developers ... statement ... One fundamental...
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Ken Boyer
ken@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:33 pm
... From: Eric Rizzo <eric.rizzo@...> Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 1:00 PM ... developers ... I'd like to try to make myself clearer... From a...
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Steve Willer
willer@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:47 pm
... We're using CVS for web design work, and it's really no different from pure programming. The designers have their own sandbox to work in, they do commits...
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Ken Boyer
ken@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:49 pm
... From: ian.rae@... <ian.rae@...> Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 1:21 PM ... Perhaps because of my work experience, which includes working ...
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Keith Paton
paton@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:50 pm
Yup Montreal, Quebec, Canada ... From: "Jean-Marc Heneman" <jmh@...> To: <extremeprogramming@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 1:55 PM Subject:...
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Dave Thomas
Dave@...
Jul 31, 2000 6:58 pm
... When Andy and I do web work, we use CVS, and set up a symbolic link from a local Apache server to the appropriate checked-out directories. That way we test...
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Eric Hodges
eric.hodges@...
Jul 31, 2000 7:17 pm
... Sometimes they restate the obvious. If so, I've done a good job of naming the method/parameter/class. But I always try to say whatever couldn't be said...
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ian.rae@...
Jul 31, 2000 7:33 pm
... can ... few ... lot? ... feet ... of ... analog ... and ... internally ... technology ... Engineers are people who follow a defined process; the analog...
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Jean-Henri Duteau
jeand@...
Jul 31, 2000 7:35 pm
... Ahh, but I do hear that from my brother-in-law. In terms of bridges, they have limits of safety. Why would you have a safety limit if you could actually...
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Ilja Preuß
ilja.preuss@...
Jul 31, 2000 7:42 pm
DTSTTCPW doesn't mean "do the simplest thing that could possibly sometimes work" but "try the simplest thing that could possibly work all the time; if it...
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Eric Hodges
eric.hodges@...
Jul 31, 2000 7:48 pm
Engineers are people who will form a single line when a crowd will suffice. I noticed this during my brief journey into the EE department of UT. We were all...
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Ken Boyer
ken@...
Jul 31, 2000 7:53 pm
... From: ian.rae@... <ian.rae@...> Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:31 PM ... Well, then obviously there are many software engineers who follow...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Jul 31, 2000 8:02 pm
... From: "Jean-Henri Duteau" <jeand@...> ... perceive that it's not worth the cost to test so much. Maybe we should, maybe we shouldn't. But I...
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Eric Hodges
eric.hodges@...
Jul 31, 2000 8:10 pm
... I don't think it means "try the simplest thing that could possibly work all the time". Finding a solution that works for the current problem is all that...
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Eric Bennett
grimdenizen@...
Jul 31, 2000 8:24 pm
... But these make perfect sense. The "possible" here doesn't warn against doing the impossible -- it warns against trying it. BDUF can plan impossible...
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mike
majohnson@...
Jul 31, 2000 8:27 pm
... perceive that it's not worth the cost to test so much. Maybe we should, maybe we shouldn't. But I see that as following the rule "Make things as simple...