... A very good source of information is XP Installed. A draft copy of this is available from www.xprogramming.com. The chapters on "Test-first, by intention"...
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Bill dehOra
wdehora@...
Aug 1, 2000 8:41 am
... Though it is a bit jarring, I can't see how this naming differentiates from other human-readable variable naming. Exceptions are not for expected ...
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Ian Hobson
ian.hobson@...
Aug 1, 2000 10:44 am
In article <00bd01bffb12$24a7c0e0$3865059a@paton>, Keith Paton <paton@...> writes ... No - by leaving out complexity that is needed (who says it is...
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David Seibert
seibertron@...
Aug 1, 2000 11:05 am
... In our line of work (mechanical engineering) there is NO level of abstraction. I believe this is the major difference in trying to model software...
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Michael D. Hill
uly@...
Aug 1, 2000 11:12 am
Johannes and Kevin... Nice posts, and I need to throw off some sparks from them. ... Ditto, believe me. Sometimes this place is noisier than Wiki. ... As...
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Arrizza, John
john.arrizza@...
Aug 1, 2000 11:56 am
... <snip> Johannes, There was a discussion in this list a few months (?) or so ago. The thread subjects were: Growth, not evolution post fact XP greenfield vs...
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Johannes Brodwall
johannes@...
Aug 1, 2000 12:08 pm
Thanks to all who replied to my original posting. It seems like there are many rules of thumb and few concrete methods out there when it comes to testing. To...
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Steve Willer
willer@...
Aug 1, 2000 12:17 pm
... I didn't actually use a stub layer. I've been working on some changes to our own database layer, which in turn talks to a lower-level database layer...
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Arrizza, John
john.arrizza@...
Aug 1, 2000 12:21 pm
... I had a similar situation with code that communicated with a "Framework". I derived classes from all the Framework classes that I used. My CUT (code under...
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Morris, Chris
ChrisM@...
Aug 1, 2000 12:35 pm
... Yes, and the benefit of loosely coupled objects created through an XP process from the beginning. ... I started applying unit tests in a new module of an...
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Arrizza, John
john.arrizza@...
Aug 1, 2000 1:11 pm
... This is *it* isn't it? Loosely coupled objects is an OO idea that has been difficult for me to get into as well. I just started in on c++ about 3 or so ...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Aug 1, 2000 1:28 pm
... What about all those vector force diagrams? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Aug 1, 2000 1:31 pm
... I'm not sure I said that, and if I did I'm about to repudiate it. In an emergency, yes, I'd fix and run. But if it's not, my advice would be to write some...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Aug 1, 2000 1:44 pm
... I'd think Piece would know where it MIGHT go, sort of like this: Bishop listRawMoves = { x,y | exists n: X,Y = loc(): x = X+/-n; y = Y +/- n & 0<=x<=7,...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Aug 1, 2000 1:47 pm
... I, too, think it's overkill. If the board can't fail (and it probably can't), then you need to test that pieces don't try to move off the edge of an empty...
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Ken Boyer
ken@...
Aug 1, 2000 1:56 pm
... From: David Seibert <seibertron@...> Date: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:03 AM Hey - who let this guy in? :-) ... Correct. I don't think SE can be...
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Gregor Rayman
grayman@...
Aug 1, 2000 2:04 pm
Hi, perhaps this question has been answered alredy and I missed the answer. I am using JUnit to test my packages and I really love it. Unfortunaltely, I have...
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Don Wells
don@...
Aug 1, 2000 3:12 pm
From: Johannes Brodwall <johannes@...> ... Yes and no. You must learn how to test code just as you learned how to write code. It takes time and none...
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Arrizza, John
john.arrizza@...
Aug 1, 2000 3:13 pm
... Ron, you may be right. I can't search back for the quote because I have deleted many XP emails so it may have been Robert Martin or Kent Beck or Michael...
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Aaron Hinni
aaron@...
Aug 1, 2000 3:20 pm
... I think the original quote had to do with refactoring, not writing unit tests. aaron...
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Tom Copeland
tom@...
Aug 1, 2000 3:29 pm
There are some JGuru FAQs that discuss this - http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqindex.jsp?title=Entries+In+Tools%3AJUnit&t opic=25194. Yours, Tom ... From:...
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Dustin Hodge
dustin6364@...
Aug 1, 2000 3:40 pm
... I feel that the public and individuals in other engineering fields are under the misconception that software Development is not an engineering field. I...
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Stephen Freeman
Stephen.freeman@...
Aug 1, 2000 3:51 pm
This was our original motivation for our Mock Objects paper. http://www.connextra.com/site/all_about_us/xp/mockobjects.pdf Some of the helper code is available...
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Kevin Lewis
kevinlewis@...
Aug 1, 2000 7:26 pm
Some time ago there was a discussion about "Office Space Layout", and Ken Auer posted a diagram of his XP studio (which I appreciate greatly): ...
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Aug 1, 2000 7:42 pm
My strong opinion: Face the middle, it facilitates communication and back-to-the-wall protects you from being stabbed in the back. R I could be Ron, of course....
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kevan.dunsmore@...
Aug 1, 2000 8:21 pm
Or just do what we did at Spektra - fuck it. Let Schindler test it. "Andrew Swan" <andrews@owl. To: extremeprogramming@egroups.com co.uk>...
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kevan.dunsmore@...
Aug 1, 2000 8:22 pm
Apologies for last email. Please disregard. It was an old mail I inadvertantly forwarded to this group. "Andrew Swan" <andrews@owl. To:...
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Couball, James
jcouball@...
Aug 1, 2000 9:33 pm
Back to the wall is good Fung Shui (http://www.amfengshui.com/). Sincerely, James. ... From: Ron Jeffries [mailto:ronjeffries@...] Sent: Tuesday, August...
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Mark Wilden
mark@...
Aug 1, 2000 9:38 pm
... protects ... The extremely defensive learn to detect the slightest motion in the reflection in the monitor......
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Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries@...
Aug 1, 2000 9:40 pm
... Got a pointer to the specifics? Might be useful. Wonder if Alexander spoke to the issue? Patterns guys? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com...
