Actually, the "4C" move occurs at move 15. Is it possible that you jumped over moves 16 & 17 when interpreting my solution to deal #080488? Below is a detailed...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Oct 1, 2003 11:58 am
I should never included my analysis file directly inside my previous reply. Line-wrap and formatting changes zapped it. I've attached the TXT file as a ZIP...
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Shlomi Fish
shlomif2
Oct 4, 2003 11:57 am
I set up a page for the PySol integration: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/freecell-solver/pysol/ The Python bindings and the patch to PySol are available...
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WKRfresno@...
Oct 14, 2003 4:00 pm
Several of the MS32K are solvable in 21 moves. My solver has spent much time looking for deals with shorter solutions on a 1gHz Intel that averages 11 games...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Oct 15, 2003 12:04 am
The chain on my original message was getting very long and we jumped off-topic some time back. So, I changed the subject line to start a new message chain. I...
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andrew_zito
Nov 12, 2003 7:40 pm
TRANSLATED INTO SPANISH AND FRENCH Dear Friends and Asssociates in the Sport of Chess: We need to support our local communities and as chess players what...
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HELSER ERIC JOSEPH
taren_n
Nov 13, 2003 7:15 am
Hello, my name is Taren, and I'm new to this group. Monday, I played a long marathon of Freecell games. By the end of all that, my wrist was really sore....
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WKRfresno@...
Nov 13, 2003 7:36 am
A game-solving program must remember the positions it has reached so that it can avoid endless loops such as D3 moving from S4 to C4 and back again, over and...
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taren_n
Nov 13, 2003 3:03 pm
Guess I should make it be able to recognize moveable runs like (6S-5H) -> 7H with one FC open so it can recognize larger-scale loops like (7H-6S-5H) <->...
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andrew_zito
Nov 13, 2003 3:38 pm
ORIGINAL MESSAGE COMMENTED ON ================================ From: garrubal Message 2 in Discussion in response to AZ1, You said: **** with regards to ICC....
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 14, 2003 12:33 am
Welcome to the group. Here's what little I have to share about writing a FreeCell solver. As I understand it, FreeCell is part of the Traveling Salesman class...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 14, 2003 12:52 am
There are many types of moves allowed in FreeCell. Not all are properly supported by the various games and solvers. The "atomic move" is the fundamental type...
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taren_n
Nov 14, 2003 6:47 am
Right now I'm trying to get my (new and improved) program to implement supermoves, except I'm cheating. To determine if a huge jump is possible, the program...
... Actually, a meta-move, AFAIK is a game AI term that specifies any number of moves performed at once to reach from one state to a subsequent state. Freecell...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 14, 2003 6:12 pm
Meta-Move A move that consists of several individual moves done as one, to move from state to a derived state. Some of the Freecell test and all of the Simple...
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taren_n
Nov 14, 2003 9:41 pm
C and C++ are generally the same. I guess I couldn't use that code since I'm using Borland C++. Borland's fun. Anyway, are there any solvers that determine the...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 15, 2003 1:17 am
Something must have been lost in my comments about using C code in a C++ program. Borland handles it just fine. There are three (primary) solvers available to...
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taren_n
Nov 18, 2003 4:10 am
Man, I'm having the hardest time ever on this program. I think I have three or four versions of this program written, each one a modification of previous types...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 18, 2003 5:10 am
I'm sorry, but I can't conceive of a FreeCell solver that runs in anywhere near 200-400 lines -- try 10+ times that spread over multiple source files. My .h...
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Shlomi Fish
shlomif2
Nov 18, 2003 6:07 am
... OK. Note that I borrowed the term meta-move from: http://kevin.atkinson.dhs.org/freecell/report/paper.pdf The report Kevin Atkinson and Shari Holstege...
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Shlomi Fish
shlomif2
Nov 18, 2003 6:15 am
... Do you use a Version Control system? I can highly recommend Subversion: http://subversion.tigris.org/ ... The first version of Freecell Solver was about...
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taren_n
Nov 18, 2003 6:15 am
I never did understand why programmers needed to use separate files for things... why did you use them for a FCS? Personally, my style of programming has...
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daj95376
Nov 18, 2003 2:02 pm
I retrieved and read the "paper" to which you refer. I'd read it before and it probably contributed to my use of the term meta-move. Too bad they went to all...
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Shlomi Fish
shlomif2
Nov 18, 2003 3:28 pm
... Traditionally multiple modules were used by C programs to fasten the compilation speed and many times to even make sure compilation can be done without...
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taren_n
Nov 18, 2003 4:56 pm
... Probably because they were instructed to only use freecells to break apart large "moves of mass destruction". If freecell is open -> move a card. If column...
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taren_n
Nov 18, 2003 5:39 pm
Since I'm almost able to solve a game now, I need some advice for notation output. If memory serves me right, the rules are: Columns are numbered 1-8 FC's are...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 18, 2003 8:44 pm
I'm not sure of your conjecture on why an open free cell must exist, but that doesn't matter. As far as your formula goes, I haven't verified it for accuracy;...
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Danny A Jones
daj95376
Nov 18, 2003 9:32 pm
Congratulations on being close to solving your first game/deal. I remember the "rush" I had when my solver kicked out its first solution. Your understanding of...
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taren_n
Nov 18, 2003 10:01 pm
(Note: for some odd reason, my email program is not copying replied material into the message...) One way of getting around that 'f' disaster is that the...
