Hi Kevin,
    Wonderful stuff, had some problem though with k2. Specifically
enabling the k2 sidebar manager causes the plugin to fail with

Fatal error: Call to undefined function wp_register_sidebar_widget()
in /.../wp-content/plugins/fireeagle_4_wp/fireeagle_4_wp.php on line 20


Disabling the sidebar manager fixes stuff up.

--
Jebu

--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Ryan <kryan@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Fire Eaglers!
>
> I just launched an alpha version of my Fire Eagle for WordPress widget.
>
> What it does right now:
>
> It is really basic at this point... it installs as a WordPress widget,
> which you can
> put in your side bar... all it does is display your last know location
> from Fire Eagle
> in your side bar. I have plans to allow FE updating from the widget
> (on the admin side)
> as well as a plugin that will allow you to tag your post with your FE
> location. Also have
> plans for multiple users, say you are a blog site with multiple people
> posting
>
> WARING! This is an alpha plugin, use at your own risk
>
> NOTE: this has only been tested on  WordPress version 2.5.1, it should
> work
> on earlier versions of WP that allow widgets, but has not been tested
> yet.
>
> NOTE 2: Your WP theme needs to support Widgets for this to work
>
> Got to:
>
> http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/wp-plugin.html
>
> - Click the download button (The plugin comes as a zip file)
> - Once you have it downloaded and un-zipped, move the fireeagle_4_wp
> folder to you wordpress plugin folder
> - Then log into your admin screen and click on "Plugins" at the top
> right of the screen
> - You should see Fire Eagle for WordPress in the list of plugins,
> click activate
> - Once it has activated click on Design then Widgets in your top
> navigation.
> - You should see the widget listed on the left, click add
> - After it has been added, be sure to click "Save Changes" before
> opening the admin screen of the widget
> - Now click "Edit" in the FE header bar
> - Then click on "Click here to authenticate with Fire Eagle!"
> - Once you are returned from Fire Eagle, you should be good to go,
> just load your
> blog page and you should see the fire eagle location in your side column
>
> Let me know if you have any problems...
>
> Cheers!
> ---
> Kevin Ryan
> technical yahoo! - brickhouse
> kryan@...
> im: kevronosx
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:52 PM, autarken_share wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > I just started using Fire Eagle w/Navizon on my blackberry and saw
> > this post about your possible WordPress plugin... just wondering how
> > that was going?
> >
> > I'm traveling to Europe next week, and being able to plug in my
> > current location to my travel blog (wordpress of course) w/out having
> > to actually make a post would be awesome.
> >
> > If it's anywhere near ready I'd love to help beta test it ;)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian - brian@... - http://roam.autarken.net
> >
>

Hey Ryan,

For sure, post the link around and we'll take a whirl.

Jeannie

--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Romanchuk" <rromanchuk@...> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
> I'm a developer over at dipity.com and have been quietly integrating
> FE into our product. I would love if any other devs would mind giving
>  suggestions and feedback.
>
> Also interested in other applications and services that would like to
> partner with or be included in Dipity's list of 'sources'.
>
> I will create an environment for FE devs and post the link around if
> anyone is interested.
>
> ps Where are all of you? Come hang out @ #fireeagle on freenode...It's
> too quiet in there.
>

I'd LOVE to have a play.

On 27 Jun 2008, at 14:53, Ryan Romanchuk wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> I'm a developer over at dipity.com and have been quietly integrating
> FE into our product. I would love if any other devs would mind giving
> suggestions and feedback.
>
> Also interested in other applications and services that would like to
> partner with or be included in Dipity's list of 'sources'.
>
> I will create an environment for FE devs and post the link around if
> anyone is interested.
>
> ps Where are all of you? Come hang out @ #fireeagle on freenode...It's
> too quiet in there.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Patrick.

> I am trying to retrieve a users mobile Cell ID location information by
> using ZoneTag to set the information from the users mobile, then
> retrieve it via the FireEagle API.
>
> The FireEagle API suggests that Cell ID Information (MNC, MCC, LAC,
> Cell ID) can be part of the XML datastream that is returned when a
> users location is requested.

Can you point me to this in the docs, as it's an incorrect assertion?
We can't do this, as it would potentially constitute leaking
proprietary data.

When we return a location, it's limited to specific information about
that location (and what it's parented by).  We include bounding boxes,
names, and WOE ids, but cell info is not part of what constitutes a
location.

Your best bet is to poke around the ZoneTag API to see if it will get
you closer to what you're trying to accomplish.  Otherwise, I'd
suggest getting in touch with Skyhook and/or Navizon to see if they
can help.

> I have hooked up ZoneTag with FireEagle to automatically broadcast my
> location via my mobile. However when I query my location via the API,
> I do not get the Cell ID level data back. In FireEagle itself, my
> location is given as 'somewhere in Australia'.

Our cell coverage is quite limited (as you've discovered); as such,
we're recommending that people resolve cell ids to locations elsewhere
and update Fire Eagle with the resultant location.

We're looking into what Yahoo! can do about improved cell coverage,
but at the moment, it doesn't look like we'll have anything better
than what Skyhook / Navizon offer by the time we launch (and at
present, considerably worse).  As such, we've actually floated the
idea of removing "official" support for it (either by striking it from
the docs until we're happy or even by removing support for cell ids
entirely).

I hope this helps.

seth

Hey,

OSMTracker is built on vb.net. Not by myself admittedly, I just have a copy of
the source to hack on :-)

Cheers

Kyle

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:11:18 -0700, "Seth Fitzsimmons" <seth@...> wrote:
> None that we know of, other than Mologogo.
> What flavor of library would you need to integrate with OSMTracker?
>
> seth
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Kyle Gordon <kyle@...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Evening all
>>
>> Is there any FE updater apps for Windows CE? I've got an old Axim X30
>> running Windows Mobile 2003 SE. Mologogo crashes on startup due to some
> .net
>> weirdness, but I've got OSMTracker and TomTom on it so not really
> wanting to
>> give it up easily.
>>
>> Maybe one day I'll get FE capabilities integrated into OSMTracker :-)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hi

I have tried to get an invite code from the fire eagle web page, but
its not posible. The invitation has been deactivated...

So, have to be patient or find someone to invite you...

(I wanna and invitation too!!)

--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, "sowmyavenus" <sowmyamd@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I had requested for an invitation code to use Fireeagle last week and
> I still haven't got the invite code. Could someone tell me how long
> this takes usually?
>
> Thanks,
> S
>

Hey Tom and the Team,

Is the mobile auth page ready for consumption yet?

Simon

--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, Tom Coates <tecoates@...> wrote:
>
> We're working on a dedicated mobile auth page at the moment and should
> have it out in the next few weeks.
>
> On 4 Jun 2008, at 01:07, jonepetersen wrote:
>
> > Any way of getting some changes made to improve the display of the
> > auth window on the iPhone? The small size of the font and buttons
> > currently make it almost unusable.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --- Rupert Goldie wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks fine on a Nokia 6120. I successfully updated my location
> >> through the mobile web interface.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rupert Goldie, CTO, ekit.com Inc
> >> www.ekit.com/ekit/tj
> >>
> >
> >
>

There are a bunch of apps which do interesting things with location,
do any of them update to fire eagle yet?

-rabble

The Problem
I am trying my first steps with the php walkthrough but it fails:
http://www.dotcomslave.de/fireeagle/test.php

I can't find out what the problem is. When I manually use the created
URL the response seems to be correct.

I can't speak to the problem you're having that well; hopefully Phil will be able to jump in and see what the problem is.
 

The Question
I aim at writing a module for Zikula and I read the threat with the
Drupal guy. If I understand it correctly the plugin auth now works but
with limited access because fireagle doesn't know who the calling app is.

For Google Maps every webmaster has to generate a key and they are used
to obtaining keys for special modules. So would it be possible to let
them create their own app key at fireeagle if they want the full
service, so they don't all use my key?

Fire Eagle knows which "app" is accessing it, just not the specific instance.  The only functionality that's being dropped as a result of plugin auth is "recent" and "within", which is mainly useful within a social context.  If you want to re-enable access to those API methods, you can provide instructions so that maintainers of individual Zikula instances request their own consumer keys by registering an app referring to their installation.

It's up to you whether you include a consumer key and secret corresponding to the plugin or if you require people to register themselves before it can be installed.

seth

Hi Kevin, may I ask you a question please? Thanks in advance.

I installed your plugin here: www.i00p.com.ar but:

Do you know why I only can see this message (on the left margin):
"I am not on this earth!" ?.

Thank you again.
Kind.
Jorge
P.S:I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina and, my country - maybe - is
not supported yet @ Fire Eagle...
------------------------------------------------------------------

--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Ryan <kryan@...> wrote:
>
> Jebu
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I have fixed the error you mentioned when
using
> the K2 theme. I should have an update on the server by tomorrow
> (dependent on push schedule).
>
> Unfortunately the K2 theme uses a different module registering API
> then the default
>   WP widgets, so my plugin will not blow up now when using the K2
> sidebars, but the
> widget does not run in the K2 sidebar. You can use the K2 theme,
but
> not their module
> stuff with the Fire Eagle plugin. I will look further into seeing
what
> all I have to do to support the
> K2 theme, I just want to stay away from the slippery slope of
having
> to maintain X number
> of plugins for diff themes. I'll shoot an email to the list when
the
> updated plugin is live and ready
> for download.
>
> Cheers!
> ---
> Kevin Ryan
> technical yahoo! - brickhouse
> kryan@...
> im: kevronosx
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2008, at 7:34 AM, jebui wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> > Wonderful stuff, had some problem though with k2. Specifically
> > enabling the k2 sidebar manager causes the plugin to fail with
> >
> > Fatal error: Call to undefined function wp_register_sidebar_widget
()
> > in /.../wp-content/plugins/fireeagle_4_wp/fireeagle_4_wp.php on
line
> > 20
> >
> > Disabling the sidebar manager fixes stuff up.
> >
> > --
> > Jebu
> >
> > --- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Ryan <kryan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Fire Eaglers!
> > >
> > > I just launched an alpha version of my Fire Eagle for
WordPress
> > widget.
> > >
> > > What it does right now:
> > >
> > > It is really basic at this point... it installs as a WordPress
> > widget,
> > > which you can
> > > put in your side bar... all it does is display your last know
> > location
> > > from Fire Eagle
> > > in your side bar. I have plans to allow FE updating from the
widget
> > > (on the admin side)
> > > as well as a plugin that will allow you to tag your post with
your
> > FE
> > > location. Also have
> > > plans for multiple users, say you are a blog site with
multiple
> > people
> > > posting
> > >
> > > WARING! This is an alpha plugin, use at your own risk
> > >
> > > NOTE: this has only been tested on WordPress version 2.5.1, it
> > should
> > > work
> > > on earlier versions of WP that allow widgets, but has not been
> > tested
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > NOTE 2: Your WP theme needs to support Widgets for this to work
> > >
> > > Got to:
> > >
> > > http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/wp-plugin.html
> > >
> > > - Click the download button (The plugin comes as a zip file)
> > > - Once you have it downloaded and un-zipped, move the
fireeagle_4_wp
> > > folder to you wordpress plugin folder
> > > - Then log into your admin screen and click on "Plugins" at the
top
> > > right of the screen
> > > - You should see Fire Eagle for WordPress in the list of
plugins,
> > > click activate
> > > - Once it has activated click on Design then Widgets in your top
> > > navigation.
> > > - You should see the widget listed on the left, click add
> > > - After it has been added, be sure to click "Save Changes"
before
> > > opening the admin screen of the widget
> > > - Now click "Edit" in the FE header bar
> > > - Then click on "Click here to authenticate with Fire Eagle!"
> > > - Once you are returned from Fire Eagle, you should be good to
go,
> > > just load your
> > > blog page and you should see the fire eagle location in your
side
> > column
> > >
> > > Let me know if you have any problems...
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > ---
> > > Kevin Ryan
> > > technical yahoo! - brickhouse
> > > kryan@
> > > im: kevronosx
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:52 PM, autarken_share wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > I just started using Fire Eagle w/Navizon on my blackberry
and saw
> > > > this post about your possible WordPress plugin... just
wondering
> > how
> > > > that was going?
> > > >
> > > > I'm traveling to Europe next week, and being able to plug in
my
> > > > current location to my travel blog (wordpress of course) w/
out
> > having
> > > > to actually make a post would be awesome.
> > > >
> > > > If it's anywhere near ready I'd love to help beta test it ;)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Brian - brian@ - http://roam.autarken.net
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Just wanted everyone to know that the URL for the WordPress widget has
changed, it is now located at http://wordpress.fireeagle.yahoo.net/

Cheers!

Kevin Ryan

--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, "kevronosx" <kryan@...> wrote:
>
> Just wanted everyone to know that the URL for the WordPress widget has
> changed, it is now located at http://wordpress.fireeagle.yahoo.net/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Kevin Ryan
>

Awesome,
Thanks Kevin!

Ryan

Hi,

you might want to offer a zip-file without all the .svn-directories, though. ;)

Besides that: awesome!

Dominik

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM, kevronosx <kryan@...> wrote:
> Just wanted everyone to know that the URL for the WordPress widget has
> changed, it is now located at http://wordpress.fireeagle.yahoo.net/
>
> Cheers!
>
> Kevin Ryan
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Hey guys - no sorry. This is my fault. I've been swamped in the last
week or so and haven't got to it. It's high on the priority list though!

On 9 Jul 2008, at 14:23, mr.simonjones wrote:

> Hey Tom and the Team,
>
> Is the mobile auth page ready for consumption yet?
>
> Simon
>
> --- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, Tom Coates <tecoates@...> wrote:
>>
>> We're working on a dedicated mobile auth page at the moment and
>> should
>> have it out in the next few weeks.
>>
>> On 4 Jun 2008, at 01:07, jonepetersen wrote:
>>
>>> Any way of getting some changes made to improve the display of the
>>> auth window on the iPhone? The small size of the font and buttons
>>> currently make it almost unusable.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --- Rupert Goldie wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looks fine on a Nokia 6120. I successfully updated my location
>>>> through the mobile web interface.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rupert Goldie, CTO, ekit.com Inc
>>>> www.ekit.com/ekit/tj
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Hello Fire Eagle land,

I have just pushed an updated version of the Fire Eagle for WordPress
widget.

You can find the new one at http://wordpress.fireeagle.yahoo.net

I have added Release Notes and Help instructions also (scroll down to
the bottom
of the  page and click on "Release Notes" or "Help"

This version just has a few minor tweaks to fix some issue i have had
feedback on

Bug fixes:

      * Fixed an error if you have moved your WP admin directory to
another location other
        than the default location

New changes:

      * none

Happy Geo!

Cheers!
---
Kevin Ryan
technical yahoo! - brickhouse
kryan@...
im: kevronosx

Do location updates with a geometry parameter work?

I am having 401 OAuth errors. I am using the google code java OAuth
library. Or 400 errors if I remove some characters that cause problems.

Problems seem to occur with quotes (") (and maybe other characters) in
the geojson value, so I was wondering if it is a URL encode issue. The
Java lib does some funny extra changes to encodings:
(http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/java/core/src/main/java/net/oauth/OAuth.ja\
va)

  return URLEncoder.encode(s, ENCODING)
                     // OAuth encodes some characters differently:
                     .replace("+", "%20").replace("*", "%2A")
                     .replace("%7E", "~");


Can someone give an example of what the geometry parameter value can be.
For example, does it need to be a full GeoJSON polygon like:
"geojson":{"type":"Polygon",
	           "coordinates":[[-122.40650177,37.7494697571],
				  [-122.3790893555,37.7494697571],
				  [-122.3790893555,37.7862281799],
				  [-122.40650177,37.7862281799],
				  [-122.40650177,37.7494697571]],
	           "bbox":[[-122.40650177,37.7494697571],
			   [-122.3790893555,37.7862281799]]}




Or can it be some subset, e.g. just above with bbox part?

Thanks for any help

Thanks Seth. Can someone change the documentation to put "Not
implemented" or something for the geometry parameter on location updates?

This feature seems very much needed as many ways of getting a
location, GPS or Cell ID might be provided to us (by a 3rd party) as a
lat/lon + accuracy - so I want to pass this on to FireEagle, probably
as a bounding box for the location.

I assume you are tackling the tensions between location
obfuscation/privacy and indeterminate location. What does one do if a
person sets their location to the US/Mexican border with 5km accuracy.
  You can't return a semantic place name for that (unless you are very
clever), maybe just a GeoJSON bounding box?




--- In fireeagle@yahoogroups.com, "Seth Fitzsimmons" <seth@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Clive.
> The short answer is no.  The docs claim that geometry parameters can be
> provided, but the sad truth is that they don't work yet, as we haven't
> decided how to deal with indeterminate locations.
>
> seth
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:08 AM, clivejcox <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> wrote:
>
> >   Do location updates with a geometry parameter work?
> >
> > I am having 401 OAuth errors. I am using the google code java OAuth
> > library. Or 400 errors if I remove some characters that cause
problems.
> >
> > Problems seem to occur with quotes (") (and maybe other characters) in
> > the geojson value, so I was wondering if it is a URL encode issue. The
> > Java lib does some funny extra changes to encodings:
> > (
> >
http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/java/core/src/main/java/net/oauth/OAuth.jav\
a
> > )
> >
> > return URLEncoder.encode(s, ENCODING)
> > // OAuth encodes some characters differently:
> > .replace("+", "%20").replace("*", "%2A")
> > .replace("%7E", "~");
> >
> > Can someone give an example of what the geometry parameter value
can be.
> > For example, does it need to be a full GeoJSON polygon like:
> > "geojson":{"type":"Polygon",
> > "coordinates":[[-122.40650177,37.7494697571],
> > [-122.3790893555,37.7494697571],
> > [-122.3790893555,37.7862281799],
> > [-122.40650177,37.7862281799],
> > [-122.40650177,37.7494697571]],
> > "bbox":[[-122.40650177,37.7494697571],
> > [-122.3790893555,37.7862281799]]}
> >
> > Or can it be some subset, e.g. just above with bbox part?
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> >
> >
> >
>

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Hey Everyone,

Check out the nifty little J2ME Fire Eagle updater app that Simon
wrote.  It does exactly what it says: automatically update your Fire
Eagle location from your mobile phone.  Nothing less, nothing more.

It's not been rigorously tested so try it out and give us any feedback.
http://j2me.fireeagle.yahoo.net/j2me/

Cheers,
Jeannie