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#409 From: Robert Martin UncleBob <UncleBob@...>
Date: Tue Jul 1, 2003 7:37 pm
Subject: Now we know. rmartinoma
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This has nothing to do with FitNesse, but it's just too good to pass up.

Now we know what God thinks of us.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030630.html?list=true

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#410 From: "vinn01" <vinn01@...>
Date: Tue Jul 1, 2003 7:45 pm
Subject: Why does my WATT test need an html element? vinn01
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I started playing around with WATT.  The example at
http://fitnesse.org/FitNesse.SuiteAcceptanceTests.HtmlTests.FrontPageT
est?test

has no html element, just head and body...

|!-HtmlFixture-!|
|http://www.fitnesse.org/FrontPage|
|Elements|2|
|Element|1|head|headElement|
|Element|2|body|bodyElement|
|Element|mainTable|table|mainTableElement|

But when I try to duplicated it, I have to have an html element...

|!-HtmlFixture-!|
|http://www.fitnesse.org/FrontPage|
|Elements|1|
|Element|1|html|htmlElement|

|!-HtmlFixture-!|
|htmlElement|
|Elements|2|
|Element|1|head|headElement|
|Element|2|body|bodyElement|

Why?

Vinn


PS - I'm looking forward to that fixture for testing dynamic client-
side HTML.

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#411 From: "Phlip" <plumlee@...>
Date: Tue Jul 1, 2003 9:15 pm
Subject: Driving an IE file browser control from Automation phlip_cpp
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Test-firsters:

I cross-posted because it's a hard one! (FitNesse gets this because
someone's doing something similar there, so helping me helps them.)

I'm trying to drive InternetExplorer's Automation model, this time thru
Perl.

(Among other battles, I don't know how to query from Perl the list of
members of an object, or an OLE object.)

The code starts IE as a COM (ActiveX, whatever) object. Then it navigates to
a server (possibly a buggy one!).

The sub findField(type, name) finds an <INPUT> field of the given type and
name.

We find the DOM object fronting this HTML:

     <input size="72" value="" name="file" type="file">

Note the type is "file" - that creates the little "Browse" button that lets
you

Then, we try to change the field's value attribute from nothing to a sample
string...

  # see http://samie.sourceforge.net for more examples of code like this

  use strict;
  use warnings;
  use Win32::OLE qw(EVENTS in);
  use Win32::Process;

  our $IE;

  sub StartIE {
    $IE = Win32::OLE->new("InternetExplorer.Application") || die "Could not
start Internet Explorer.Application\n";
    $IE->{visible} = shift;
  }


  StartIE(1);
  $IE->navigate("http://www.somewhere.com/cgi/service.cgi");

  my $READYSTATE_COMPLETE = 4;

   # while ($IE->{Busy} == 1)
    until($IE->{ReadyState} == $READYSTATE_COMPLETE){
     sleep(0.4);
     }


  my  $IEDoc = $IE->{Document};

  sub findField{
   my $type = shift;
   my $name = shift;
  for (my $i=0; $i < $IEDoc->all->length; $i++) {
   if ($IEDoc->all($i)->tagName =~/^FORM$/) {
    my $form = $IEDoc->all($i);
     for (my $q = 0;  $q < $form->all->length; $q++)
      {

      if ($form->all($q)->tagName =~/^INPUT$/) {
       my $input = $form->all($q);

       if ($input -> {type} eq $type and
         $input -> {name} eq $name )
        {
        return $input;
        }
       }
      }
    }
   }
   return undef;
  }


  my $fileField = findField('file', 'file');
  print $fileField->type."\n";
  print $fileField->name."\n";
  print $fileField->value."\n";
  $fileField->setAttribute('value', "hi mom");
  print $fileField->value."\n";

...every thing there is predictable until after setAttribute(). Then, the
value we push in is not there. When you visually inspect the page, it's
still not there.

I will experiment by writing on fields of type other than "file".

Switching to a legit filename instead of "hi mom" also doesn't work.

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   Phlip
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   --  Because I'm the sysadmin. That's why.  --

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#412 From: "David Hooker" <dhooker@...>
Date: Tue Jul 1, 2003 10:17 pm
Subject: Possible bug? dudehook
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In my page, I have the following markup:

All files received within the ''do...while'' loop will be stored using the names "reply'''-x'''", where ''x'' is a number corresponding to which pass through the loop the fixture is taking.

If I put two single quotes around the letter x (in red above), it starts an italic section, but the closing two single quotes do not stop the italics, and the entire rest of my page is itallics. Bold markup does not seem to have this problem.

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#413 From: Simon Brown <simes@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2003 8:22 am
Subject: Re: Driving an IE file browser control from Automation BSLSimes
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At 14:15 01/07/2003 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>Test-firsters:
>
>I cross-posted because it's a hard one! (FitNesse gets this because
>someone's doing something similar there, so helping me helps them.)
>
>I'm trying to drive InternetExplorer's Automation model, this time thru
>Perl.

<snip>

>...every thing there is predictable until after setAttribute(). Then, the
>value we push in is not there. When you visually inspect the page, it's
>still not there.
>
>I will experiment by writing on fields of type other than "file".
>
>Switching to a legit filename instead of "hi mom" also doesn't work.

If this is anything like driving the DOM through Javascript or JScript, the
security model will not let you programmatically set the contents of a file
upload field. This is to prevent hostile sites using ActiveX controls and
the like to swipe important files from users' systems.

I don't think there's any way around this - given the purpose of the
restriction, there shouldn't be.

Simes.

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Simon Brown <simes@...>

I could squeeze my lemon 'til my blues went away,
If I had possession over Pancake Day.
                  - Half Man Half Biscuit

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#414 From: "Phlip" <plumlee@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2003 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: Driving an IE file browser control from Automation phlip_cpp
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> If this is anything like driving the DOM through Javascript or JScript,
the
> security model will not let you programmatically set the contents of a
file
> upload field. This is to prevent hostile sites using ActiveX controls and
> the like to swipe important files from users' systems.
>
> I don't think there's any way around this - given the purpose of the
> restriction, there shouldn't be.
>
> Simes.

It's my browser. Can I turn all the "security" settings off?

--
   Phlip
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#415 From: Simon Brown <simes@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2003 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: Driving an IE file browser control from Automation BSLSimes
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At 05:49 02/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > If this is anything like driving the DOM through Javascript or JScript,
>the
> > security model will not let you programmatically set the contents of a
>file
> > upload field. This is to prevent hostile sites using ActiveX controls and
> > the like to swipe important files from users' systems.
> >
> > I don't think there's any way around this - given the purpose of the
> > restriction, there shouldn't be.
> >
> > Simes.
>
>It's my browser. Can I turn all the "security" settings off?

You could try adding the site you're testing to the "trusted sites" list -
that might work. Other than that, I dunno.

Simes.

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Simon Brown <simes@...>

I could squeeze my lemon 'til my blues went away,
If I had possession over Pancake Day.
                  - Half Man Half Biscuit

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#416 From: Michael Feathers <mfeathers@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2003 3:29 pm
Subject: Sorry, I just wanted to be the first one to do this.. mfeathers256
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import java.util.*;
import fit.*;

public class LifeFixture extends Fixture {
     private List birthList;
     private List killList;
     private final static String ALIVE = "X";
     private final static String DEAD = " ";

     boolean isAlive(Parse cell) {
         return cell != null && cell.body.equals(ALIVE);
     }

     boolean cellAliveAt(Parse leftTop, int x, int y) {
         Parse cell = leftTop.at(x, y);
         if (x == 0 && y == 0) {
             return isAlive(cell);
         }
         return cell != leftTop && isAlive(cell);
     }

     int neighborCount(Parse leftTop) {
         int result = 0;
         for(int x = 0; x <= 2; x++) {
             for (int y = 0; y <= 2; y++) {
                 if (x == 1 && y == 1)
                     continue;
                 if (cellAliveAt(leftTop, x, y))
                     result++;
             }
         }
         return result;
     }

     void reset() {
         birthList = new ArrayList();
         killList = new ArrayList();
     }

     public void doTable(Parse table) {
         reset();
         doRows(table.parts.more);
         updateCells();
     }

     void updateCells() {
         markCells(birthList, ALIVE);
         markCells(killList, DEAD);
     }

     void markCells(List cellList, String mark) {
         for (Iterator it = cellList.iterator(); it.hasNext(); ) {
             Parse cell = (Parse)it.next();
             cell.body = mark;
         }
     }

     public void doCell(Parse leftTop, int columnNumber) {
         if (neighborCount(leftTop) == 3) {
             markForAwaken(leftTop.at(1, 1));
         }
         else if(neighborCount(leftTop) != 2) {
             markForDeath(leftTop.at(1, 1));
         }
     }

     void markForAwaken(Parse cell) {
         birthList.add(cell);
     }

     void markForDeath(Parse cell) {
         killList.add(cell);
     }
}

Disclaimer: this program has never been run or tested.

Michael Feathers
www.objectmentor.com

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#417 From: Robert Martin UncleBob <UncleBob@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2003 4:39 pm
Subject: RE: webapp testing rmartinoma
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Marco

I was talking about the *user* interface.  Testing an application through
the GUI is downright evil.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marco Dorantes Martinez [mailto:mdmartin@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:48 PM
> To: fitnesse@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [fitnesse] webapp testing
>
>
> Hello Robert,
>
> Could you please elaborate about this?
>
> When using mock objects, usually there are interfaces
> involved; perhaps
> you are talking about the object under test and his potential declared
> interfaces, that is, test the object through its class, not its
> interface?
>
> Most likely we are talking about different things
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Martin UncleBob [mailto:UncleBob@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:11 PM
> To: 'fitnesse@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [fitnesse] webapp testing
>
> And as we all know, testing through the interface leads to horrible
> woes,
> moaning, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.  Do as little testing through
> the
> interface as possible!
>
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> Robert C. Martin    |
> President & Founder |
> Object Mentor Inc.  | unclebob @ objectmentor dot com
> PO Box 5757         | Tel: (800) 338-6716 x15
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> Suite 135           |
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>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jbrekke@... [mailto:jbrekke@...]
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:33 AM
> > To: fitnesse@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [fitnesse] webapp testing
> >
> >
> > Micah Martin <micah@...> writes:
> >
> > > Anything is possible in FitNesse as long as you have the
> > right Fixture ;).
> > >
> > > It is possible to test your servlet using HtmlFixture;
> > you'll need to
> > > specifie URLs with the query string representing the data
> > you fill in.
> > >
> > > However there is a better solution on the way.
> > > Jim Long started work on an awesome Fixture that I've been
> > working with
> > > lately.  A typical table looks like this:
> > >
> > > |goto_link|http://www.somesite.com/somePage.html|
> > > |enter_field|name|Micah|
> > > |enter_field|email|micah@...|
> > > |click_button|Submit|
> > > |page_contains|Form results|
> > >
> > > As you can see it allows you to write tests as though you
> > were using the
> > > browser.  In addition it actually loads IE and communicates
> > though COM.
> > > That means you can watch the tests walk through all the
> > steps.  As soon as
> > > we get the time we'll encorporate this into WATT.
> >
> > We do the exact same thing using jWebFit ( which uses
> > jWebUnit ) and fitnesse.  Works great, except we are going
> > through the interface to test everything.
> >
> > --
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