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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price

There has been a lot of speculation about price changes for Flex. Let's set
the record straight. As of April 1, we are adjusting the price of Flex.
There are now three different packages for Flex going forward. For most
people, the starter kit will provide everything you need for your Flex
applications: 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper
than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. For the larger Flex
applications out there, we will sell per CPU at $15,000 per CPU. Finally,
for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we have
special pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, and
this is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in working
with you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interested
in using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you and
find the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs.

In response to some of your comments, over time, we are very interested in
offering additional licensing options to broaden the range of projects and
developers who can leverage Flex technology. We follow the market very
closely, and pay great attention to your constructive feedback. We all have
a stake in the success of this marketplace.

Why are we changing the price of Flex?

We have been building, selling, and supporting Flex for a year now. The
marketplace for rich Internet applications is really taking off. Hundreds of
applications are being delivered all over the world, and the general
interest level is really growing out there.

Within this overall marketplace, there are a variety of customer segments
and project types with varying requirements. Large enterprise customers and
systems integration partners require substantial pre-sales engagement and
ongoing assistance from Macromedia commensurate with the value that they
intend to derive from the software. Small and medium size customers and
individual developers require low up front costs to get started fast and
operate within very limited IT budgets.

It is important to have great offerings for each type of user. There is no
"one size fits all" approach that both makes everyone successful and is
sustainable over the long term. A stratified approach makes the most sense,
and that's what we're gradually implementing. We've adjusted our core
product pricing to better reflect both the value derived and the costs
involved in driving successful projects within large enterprise customers.
We've also created a starter package that combines deeply discounted Flex
licenses with high quality support designed to address the needs of large
customers doing pilot projects or medium size customers doing full
deployments.

Please talk to us if you have special needs. We will continue to work
directly with enterprise customers doing larger deployments or who desire
Enterprise Licensing Agreements. We also have specialized offerings for ISVs
delivering packaged software solutions based on Flex. If you have a project
specifically suited to Flex but need different packaging, please contact
your Macromedia sales rep to discuss your project and the pricing options
that meet your needs. If you see real value in Flex, there is probably a
way to make it work.

Lucian Beebe
Flex product manager
Macromedia



Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:50 pm

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There has been a lot of speculation about price changes for Flex. Let's set the record straight. As of April 1, we are adjusting the price of Flex. There are...
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Mar 30, 2005
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Do you have upgrade prices for Flex 1.5 Users? ... From: Lucian Beebe [mailto:lbeebe@...] Sent: 30 March 2005 23:51 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ...
Simon Fifield
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Mar 30, 2005
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why does the 'starter kit' come with 4CPUs and Gold Support? This sounds more like the full Flex package instead of a real 'lite' version.. why not 1 CPU...
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Mar 30, 2005
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Does anyone know if Adobe (or anyone) has talked about coming out with a lite version of Flex for mobile platform development? Thanks....
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This would be fantastic. but support is likely to materialize on a device/platform basis considering the diversity in that market. There are some immediate...
Rick Winscot
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Jun 8, 2008
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An old dutch saying : Prices can only go down... Laszo/BackBase time??...
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Mar 31, 2005
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:02:32 +0200, Michel Jansen ... heh good luck with those, I'm not belittling th..actually I am. Think long-term, post FLEX 1.5 and what...
Scott Barnes
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Mar 31, 2005
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Ya apparently I need to be sending out my resume to companies that can afford this stuff! :)...
Tarik Ahmed
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Since all Flex 1.5 customers are on a maintenance program, upgrades come for free. Lucian _____ From: Simon Fifield [mailto:simon@...] Sent:...
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Well, we have just committed to Flex and fortunately beat the price rise - paperwork just completed with Macromedia UK. First, a big thank you to this list....
Ian Welsh
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Mar 31, 2005
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I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment: we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we...
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Mar 31, 2005
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Dirk, that is what I was told (in writing) - maintenance at 20% of the price you pay (per year). In fact we bought an additional year's maintenance with our...
Ian Welsh
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Dirk, When I talked to my account manager the other day - he told me that the price you pay is the basis for future maintenance agreements. I would still ...
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Mar 31, 2005
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The price for maintenance is based on the price you paid, not any new prices for new packaging that might be in place at a future date. Lucian ... From: Dirk...
Lucian Beebe
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Apr 1, 2005
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... time?? Was this before or after the tulip craze? :) matt...
Matt Horn
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Mar 31, 2005
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... You can make a joke off this but i think that raising the price for your licenses more than 100% is not the smartest thing to do! It can be actually...
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Mar 31, 2005
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4CPU? Why on earth would someone like to use that on precompiled stuff? Regards, Sjors Pals...
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I don't see the point of this licensing change. With the old licensing: Business case A- people requiring a 2CPU license could buy it for $12 000, Business...
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Mar 31, 2005
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... I do. The only reasonable explaination is that Flex is selling as fast as lightning! Hire a team of M$ WebProgrammers for a few months and look at the...
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Financially, obviously they ran their cost/market/etc analysis and came up with those numbers. I think one thing that is a risk play for MM is the intangible...
Tarik Ahmed
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... MM engineers from different parts of the world working on the Flex project are on this forum because it gives us a better understanding of how the product...
Manish Jethani
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Apr 3, 2005
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... Amen. -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon)...
Scott Barnes
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Apr 3, 2005
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Agreed with JesterXL, go to the Monster.com <http://Monster.com> and see some bites, really good. But We can't really close our eyes to the price as mentioned...
Igor Costa
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Apr 4, 2005
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Actually, i mentioned this on the weekend to some soon-to-be FLEX converts, the new price model will be cheaper for us lol.. As we bought FLEX pre-Price hike,...
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Apr 4, 2005
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"it gives us a better understanding of how the product is being used, the sorts of problems people are facing, and so on, by interacting with real users rather...
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Apr 4, 2005
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Michel, I'm sorry, my remark about the Dutch tulip craze wasn't meant to be mean-spirited. I just finished reading a book on it, and the parallels between that...
Matt Horn
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Mar 31, 2005
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We wanted to make a package that applies to many people for their first Flex application or for several smallish Flex applications. When things get big or...
Lucian Beebe
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Mar 31, 2005
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Lucian, "4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaper than Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support." It's like going to the car dealer...
Valy Sivec
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Mar 31, 2005
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Surely the fact the price is going up means that it is not selling well (and possibly the whole RIA scene is not as widespread as you are led to believe). If...
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