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#154 From: "esthalan" <esthalan@...>
Date: Sat Mar 30, 2002 6:17 pm
Subject: Having something weird going on with my clients since i
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run foldmonitor. Sometimes the clients just quit when i get home....
Been watching the process here for a couple of hours and it occurs
when foldmonitor updates the screens and stuff. At that point the
client gets a Q for quit, uploads and exit. Must say that it occurs
ocaisional but not before i used foldmonitor.

KWSN_Esthalan

#153 From: "esthalan" <esthalan@...>
Date: Fri Mar 29, 2002 6:15 pm
Subject: Stats site down now for a couple of day's
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Think that i am not in the right group but i am trying to reach maker
of that nice tool foldmonitor to let him know that his statspart of
his site has been down now a couple off days since the maintainence
at the DF workserver...

Greetz,

KWSN_Esthalan

#152 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Sun Mar 24, 2002 4:57 am
Subject: Interval change for DistribFold Round#3
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The newest Distributed Folding run has an interval of 5000 instead of
10000. To correct this in the monitor (latest 5.1.3) do the following:

Options->Edit Preferences

At the bottom you'll see "Interval for current DF protein"
This needs to be set to 5000 for the current run


Den

#151 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Fri Mar 22, 2002 4:15 am
Subject: Version 5.1.3 released
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v5.1.3
- Fixed (Distrib) Fixed Current Structure complete in HTML output to
reflect number of structures total instead of values over 100%
- Added (Distrib) Added preferences item to set the number of
structures for current protein (5000,10000,etc)

Files available in the Files section of the FoldMonitor Yahoo group

Den

#150 From: "mevans420" <mevans3@...>
Date: Wed Mar 20, 2002 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: --distribfold problems
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It probably was. I didn't RTFM but I finally figured it out.

BTW, heya Den. This is mntlcase from DSLR. :)

- Mntl

--- In foldmonitor@y..., "hruzaden" <hruzaden@y...> wrote:
> FoldMonitor does not start the client. It only monitors clients
that
> are already started.
>
> This should have been displayed on the screen in a message box when
> you choose the client executable.
>
> Den
>
> --- In foldmonitor@y..., "mevans420" <mevans3@t...> wrote:
> > No matter what I try, I can not get the client to start the
> > foldtrajlite.exe executable.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this problem?

#149 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Tue Mar 12, 2002 12:57 am
Subject: Re: --distribfold problems
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FoldMonitor does not start the client. It only monitors clients that
are already started.

This should have been displayed on the screen in a message box when
you choose the client executable.

Den

--- In foldmonitor@y..., "mevans420" <mevans3@t...> wrote:
> No matter what I try, I can not get the client to start the
> foldtrajlite.exe executable.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?

#148 From: "mevans420" <mevans3@...>
Date: Sun Mar 10, 2002 10:13 pm
Subject: --distribfold problems
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No matter what I try, I can not get the client to start the
foldtrajlite.exe executable.

Has anyone else had this problem?

#147 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Sat Mar 9, 2002 6:54 am
Subject: Re: Current Frame % Complete Dosen't Work
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Yeah..that's fixe now.
I forgot to update the changelog on the site too..oops

Den


--- In foldmonitor@y..., "georgia3_5" <georgia3_5@y...> wrote:
> DOH! I guesss if I had read the March 6th post I would have seen
> that. DOH!
>
>
> --- In foldmonitor@y..., "res0r9lm" <res0r9lm@v...> wrote:
> > --- In foldmonitor@y..., "georgia3_5" <georgia3_5@y...> wrote:
> > > Why is the current frame % complete not working? The overall %
> > > complete is working fine. Is there a setting I need to tweak in
> the
> > > config file?
> >  It's a bug in 5.1 it works in 5.0.12 you try upgrading to 5.1.2
> and
> > see if it has beed fixed

#146 From: "georgia3_5" <georgia3_5@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2002 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Current Frame % Complete Dosen't Work
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DOH! I guesss if I had read the March 6th post I would have seen
that. DOH!


--- In foldmonitor@y..., "res0r9lm" <res0r9lm@v...> wrote:
> --- In foldmonitor@y..., "georgia3_5" <georgia3_5@y...> wrote:
> > Why is the current frame % complete not working? The overall %
> > complete is working fine. Is there a setting I need to tweak in
the
> > config file?
>  It's a bug in 5.1 it works in 5.0.12 you try upgrading to 5.1.2
and
> see if it has beed fixed

#145 From: "res0r9lm" <res0r9lm@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2002 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: Current Frame % Complete Dosen't Work
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--- In foldmonitor@y..., "georgia3_5" <georgia3_5@y...> wrote:
> Why is the current frame % complete not working? The overall %
> complete is working fine. Is there a setting I need to tweak in the
> config file?
  It's a bug in 5.1 it works in 5.0.12 you try upgrading to 5.1.2 and
see if it has beed fixed

#144 From: "georgia3_5" <georgia3_5@...>
Date: Fri Mar 8, 2002 12:01 pm
Subject: Current Frame % Complete Dosen't Work
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Why is the current frame % complete not working? The overall %
complete is working fine. Is there a setting I need to tweak in the
config file?

#143 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Thu Mar 7, 2002 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: wish for future upgrading
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--- In foldmonitor@y..., "fumio_beppu_jp" <fumiobep@f...> wrote:
>
> I find the Foldmonitor v5.1 very helpful to check how folding is
> going in my PC.
> It's been working well so far on Win98SE.
> This is my wish for future upgrading.
>
> I usually run winFAH client while PC is powered but not 24 hours a
> day.
> That means that folding stops and restarts everyday.
> In such case, some data of FM's display become inacurate because
the
> monitor calculates data based on the assumption that the client is
> running from start without disruption.  If the monitor takes actual
> folding time elapsed, we can see more realistic projection from the
> monitor.

The time calculations are based on the timestamps of the files. It
looks to see when the work was written to the drive and then uses that
as the start time. It then takes amount of time between the start and
NOW and then divides it by the work completed. For frame times, if you
stop it and then restart it, it will say the last frame took X
hours..which is true based on the write of the last frame. It will
slowly drop the times back to normal as the client progresses.

> As a further wish, I would dream of an intelligent FM that can
check
> the client's running pattern in the past days and estimate
completion
> time.

I try to stay away from reading the log files. It's only read on new
protein starts (only as a failover) and when you open it manually. If
I used the timestamps in the log then your machine would spend to much
time reading and parsing log files...and using too much time.

I'd like to change it and do more, but i'm limited with data that I
can easily gather without using too much CPU time and heavy disk
access. Remember there are also people monitoring multiple clients
which sometimes amounts to 10 or more. So multiple any CPU time or
disk access by that amount and you see it would cause problems.

Den

#142 From: "fumio_beppu_jp" <fumiobep@...>
Date: Wed Mar 6, 2002 7:10 am
Subject: wish for future upgrading
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I find the Foldmonitor v5.1 very helpful to check how folding is
going in my PC.
It's been working well so far on Win98SE.
This is my wish for future upgrading.

I usually run winFAH client while PC is powered but not 24 hours a
day.
That means that folding stops and restarts everyday.
In such case, some data of FM's display become inacurate because the
monitor calculates data based on the assumption that the client is
running from start without disruption.  If the monitor takes actual
folding time elapsed, we can see more realistic projection from the
monitor.

As a further wish, I would dream of an intelligent FM that can check
the client's running pattern in the past days and estimate completion
time.

Thank you.

Fumio

#141 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Wed Mar 6, 2002 4:01 am
Subject: Version 5.1.2 released
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v5.1.2
- Fixed (Folding) Current frame progress bar for Folding and i'll
guess Genome
   too.  Progressbar indicator and % complete were not functioning
properly due
   to a typo in the code that was probably introduced in 5.1
- Fixed (Distrib) "Avg Time Per Str" was incorrect once the client
   passed the initial block of 5000 structures.

v5.1.1
- Fixed progress being 5000 on client startup with no progress yet.
- Fixed missing > at end of html output.


Den

#140 From: Ronald H Goldin <rhgoldin@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fold Monitor HTML page Generation
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It is viewable and I use it often.  WinXP with IE6.  Just the closing tag stands out.  Just wanted to make you aware of it and your next release can fix it.  No need to make a seperate patch for it. You can wait.

  hruzaden <hruzaden@...> wrote:

It's fixed now. Didn't notice it (It'll be in 5.1.1)

Is the report not viewable in your browser?
Works with Netscape 6.2, so I never noticed it. If it's stopping you
from using the report I'll release a new version. Otherwise I'll just
wait and it'll be in the next one I release.

Den

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> I noticed a small bug in 5.011 and still here in 5.012.  The final
> character to close </html> is missing.  Just thought since noone else
> mentioned it, I would.



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#139 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: Fold Monitor HTML page Generation
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It's fixed now. Didn't notice it (It'll be in 5.1.1)

Is the report not viewable in your browser?
Works with Netscape 6.2, so I never noticed it. If it's stopping you
from using the report I'll release a new version. Otherwise I'll just
wait and it'll be in the next one I release.

Den

--- In foldmonitor@y..., "rhgoldin" <rhgoldin@y...> wrote:
> I noticed a small bug in 5.011 and still here in 5.012.  The final
> character to close </html> is missing.  Just thought since noone else
> mentioned it, I would.

#138 From: "rhgoldin" <rhgoldin@...>
Date: Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:31 am
Subject: Fold Monitor HTML page Generation
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I noticed a small bug in 5.011 and still here in 5.012.  The final
character to close </html> is missing.  Just thought since noone else
mentioned it, I would.

#137 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2002 11:03 pm
Subject: Version 5.1 released - Added Distributed Folding support
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This update adds support for Distributed Folding. If your using it for
FAH2 or Genome there is no real need to update.


v5.1
- Added support for Distributed Folding clients. You can now use:
   foldmonitor.exe --distribfold
   or
   foldmonitor.pl --distribfold
   command line option to run it as FolditMonitor. This is still in
testing.
   It will display the progress in the current run of 5000 structures
and also display the client's grand total for the current client
session ( since last restart of client ).

I'll bump this up to 5.1 so people can keep track of version has the
support or not for that project.
   NOTE: If your monitoring multiple foldit clients on different
machines it is VERY picky about the clocks being sync'd. You'll see
negative values for times.
   I disabled the progessbar and percent complete text for this very
reason.
- Various display formatting changes ( appearance wise ). Client
history window text justifying is one example. Had to make room for
larger numbers.

#136 From: "id000001" <harrylaw@...>
Date: Sun Feb 17, 2002 4:33 am
Subject: Thanks!
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this Folding Monitor is great! thanks for the good programing!

-ID01

#135 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:22 pm
Subject: 5.0.12 Released
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Fixes date display problems

#134 From: "fernst2000" <florian@...>
Date: Fri Feb 8, 2002 12:08 pm
Subject: how to launch folding2pov from foldmonitor
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All the gurus and code masters please look aside, i am just trying to
help people like me ;-)
Any comments or corrections are welcome.

Master Den wrote:
|- Added option of having button to launch folding2pov. I'm currently
not
|  supporting the use of folding2pov. It's there for people that want
to fool
|  around getting it going. It works, but it's not a simple deal to
get it going
|  for most people. This was added by request. (...)

Well, i was one of those guys who requested this, so OK, here is how
i got it to work:

After setting the options for folding2pov in the foldmonitor.config
as mentioned before in another post i had to adjust the following:

When installing perl on my machine i didn't let it add itself to the
path, so i had to manually insert it in front of the call in the sub
run_folding2pov section close to the end of foldmonitor.pl.
Also i didn't let this call give any of the command line options but
set those options directly in the folding2pov.pl instead using DOS
directory names only, since there seems to some kind of misconception
in handling long filenames.
Thus the appropiate line in the foldmonitor.pl looks just like:

system("c:/progra~1/perl/bin/perl $cfg
{folding2pov_dir}/folding2pov.pl");

When all the paths in foldmonitor.config, foldmonitor.pl, winstart.pl
and folding2pov.pl are set correctly suiting your system, you can
just run run the winstart.pl and enjoy optimum monitoring power with
visualization capabilities.

My thanks fly out to Den for giving us what we need.

HTH,

Florian

#133 From: "fernst2000" <florian@...>
Date: Fri Feb 8, 2002 10:40 am
Subject: Re: 5.0.11 released
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Hrum hum hum, from now on i officially love your work!

Thanks for adding the folding2pov option again, i will just go and
try to get it working now.

Yours,

Florian

#132 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Fri Feb 8, 2002 1:12 am
Subject: 5.0.11 released
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v5.0.11
- New: Option to have FoldMonitor generate HTML reports.
   You can turn this on in the preferences menu. There are 2 types of
   reports. The normal mode uses your current color theme and makes a
   FM looking table for each client. Then there is simple mode with
   makes a tables that looks something like the clients window. You can
  also set what you want to call the html file and where you would
   like it written to. This should be cool for people with webservers. They
   can have the html placed somewhere on their site and see what their
clients
   are doing..maybe from home or work.
   There is also a setting for the interval to create the HTML page so
it's not
   being gen'd every update. The default is set to 10 and can be changed in
   the preferences menu.
- If FM can't read logfile_*.txt it fails over to FAHLOG.txt. There are
   timestamps in the log now. I added code to work around these.
Probably the
   only people that will see this are people monitoring clients on
smbmount'd
   shares in Linux.
- Fixed date from going off end. I had it set before to kill
2001..it's now
   whatever year it is.
- Trying to fix genome percentage from being something outragous at
the end of a
   workunit and reset properly.
- Added option of having button to launch folding2pov. I'm currently not
   supporting the use of folding2pov. It's there for people that want
to fool
   around getting it going. It works, but it's not a simple deal to get
it going
   for most people. This was added by request. This also adds
   skin item : button_folding2pov_x
   skin item : button_folding2pov_y
   skin graphic: button-folding2pov.gif
   The default with no button-folding2pov.gif is to use the pointer
graphic and
   have it appear up by the help menu.

   As usual just start FM and 'save config' to get the new stuff added
to your config file.

http://users.neosmart.com/~hruzaden/folding/download.html

#131 From: "fernst2000" <florian@...>
Date: Thu Feb 7, 2002 10:28 am
Subject: Re: folding2pov.pl (v0.6.2) from FoldMonitor.pl (v5.0.10)?
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Hi Den!

Thanks for the quick response.

When i saw this option listed in the foldmonitor.config i thought it
to be a really cool feature, so i personally would instantly vote -
hm, or beg - to get it back again, preferrably as a button and not as
a menu.

Thanks,

Florian


--- In foldmonitor@y..., "hruzaden" <hruzaden@y...> wrote:
> When I went to the newer versions that supported skins I disabled
the
> povray stuff ( actually removed the button to launch it, the code is
> still there ). The protein name used to turn into a button.
>
> It's something I have to add back to the preferences and add a menu
> item to launch it or something.
>
> Den

#130 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Thu Feb 7, 2002 7:17 am
Subject: Re: folding2pov.pl (v0.6.2) from FoldMonitor.pl (v5.0.10)?
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When I went to the newer versions that supported skins I disabled the
povray stuff ( actually removed the button to launch it, the code is
still there ). The protein name used to turn into a button.

It's something I have to add back to the preferences and add a menu
item to launch it or something.

Den


--- In foldmonitor@y..., "fernst2000" <florian@u...> wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> First of all, thanks Den for two really wonderful programs, they are
> exactly what i was looking for when i started FAHv2.
>
> There is only one thing i am confused about, i don't know whether it
> is a bug, whether it was a feature once, or whether it is just me ;-)
> I tried to look it up in google (keywords foldmonitor OR
> folding2pov), but didn't find anything useful...
>
>
> OK, my problem is, at the bottom of the foldmonitor.config it says:
> |(...snip...)
> |# These are only needed if you have folding2pov and you want to be
> able
> |# to launch it from foldmonitor - requires folding2pov ver 0.5.3
> |# Folding2pov options
> |# 1 = on, 0=off  on Turns protein name into button to launch
> folding2pov
> |folding2pov=1
> |(...snip...)
> |folding2pov_dir="c:/Programme/Folding@Home/folding2pov"
> |(...snip...)
> |povray_options="+W1024 +H768 +V +D +X +Q9 +A +P"
> |(...snip...)
>
> When i start foldmonitor in debug-mode i can see these values are
> used:
> |cfg{folding2pov}=1
> |cfg{folding2pov_dir}=c:/Programme/Folding@Home/folding2pov
> |cfg{povray_options}=+W1024 +H768 +V +D +X +Q9 +A +P
>
> But when the program is running i see no way to start folding2pov
> from within FoldMonitor, no "button" as it was mentioned in the
> foldmonitor.config.
> The path to folding2pov is correct, and folding2pov is working just
> fine when started directly. What am i doing wrong?
> Or did this feature _only_ work with folding2pov ver 0.5.3 and not
> later?
>
>
> Maybe someone can give me a hint, since i don't know perl myself and
> the helpfile that came with perl didn't help me...
>
> Keep up the great work,
> Greetings,
> Florian

#129 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Thu Feb 7, 2002 7:12 am
Subject: Re: History and client windows need scrollbars
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There are scrollbars already in both the history and clients windows
on the right side.

Den

--- In foldmonitor@y..., "jbyram2" <jodyb1@o...> wrote:
> Hi Den
>
> I am monitoring eight machines, but the "clients' window only shows
> the 1st seven.
>
> History for my more productive machines is cut off at the bottom also.
>
> Could you add a scrollbar so I can see the entire listings?
>
> All complaining aside, I have been using this program for quite a
> while and it works well! Thanks!!
>
> Jody Byram, aka
> jbyram2(MadOnion.com)

#128 From: "fernst2000" <florian@...>
Date: Wed Feb 6, 2002 6:06 pm
Subject: folding2pov.pl (v0.6.2) from FoldMonitor.pl (v5.0.10)?
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Hi there!

First of all, thanks Den for two really wonderful programs, they are
exactly what i was looking for when i started FAHv2.

There is only one thing i am confused about, i don't know whether it
is a bug, whether it was a feature once, or whether it is just me ;-)
I tried to look it up in google (keywords foldmonitor OR
folding2pov), but didn't find anything useful...


OK, my problem is, at the bottom of the foldmonitor.config it says:
|(...snip...)
|# These are only needed if you have folding2pov and you want to be
able
|# to launch it from foldmonitor - requires folding2pov ver 0.5.3
|# Folding2pov options
|# 1 = on, 0=off  on Turns protein name into button to launch
folding2pov
|folding2pov=1
|(...snip...)
|folding2pov_dir="c:/Programme/Folding@Home/folding2pov"
|(...snip...)
|povray_options="+W1024 +H768 +V +D +X +Q9 +A +P"
|(...snip...)

When i start foldmonitor in debug-mode i can see these values are
used:
|cfg{folding2pov}=1
|cfg{folding2pov_dir}=c:/Programme/Folding@Home/folding2pov
|cfg{povray_options}=+W1024 +H768 +V +D +X +Q9 +A +P

But when the program is running i see no way to start folding2pov
from within FoldMonitor, no "button" as it was mentioned in the
foldmonitor.config.
The path to folding2pov is correct, and folding2pov is working just
fine when started directly. What am i doing wrong?
Or did this feature _only_ work with folding2pov ver 0.5.3 and not
later?


Maybe someone can give me a hint, since i don't know perl myself and
the helpfile that came with perl didn't help me...

Keep up the great work,
Greetings,
Florian

#127 From: "redsoft7" <janr@...>
Date: Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:03 am
Subject: Feature request: remote monitoring
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I have multiple machines in different networks, but not with some commonly seen
file system.
the only way to reach one network from the other is by ssh (firewalled).
it would be nice to have foldmonitor monitor remote machines via ssh/scp.

is it possible to include that feature into the program?

senks e lot ;)
-- redsoft

#126 From: "jbyram2" <jodyb1@...>
Date: Tue Jan 29, 2002 1:48 am
Subject: History and client windows need scrollbars
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Hi Den

I am monitoring eight machines, but the "clients' window only shows
the 1st seven.

History for my more productive machines is cut off at the bottom also.

Could you add a scrollbar so I can see the entire listings?

All complaining aside, I have been using this program for quite a
while and it works well! Thanks!!

Jody Byram, aka
jbyram2(MadOnion.com)

#125 From: "hruzaden" <hruzaden@...>
Date: Sat Jan 12, 2002 6:08 am
Subject: Re: Inaccurate progress reports
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Are all the clocks synced on all the machines?
Also are the time zones set the same ion all the machines?


The 0-100 progress bar is based on the number of frames
completed/stored. The rest is based on timestamps comparing them to
the system clock on the computer the monitor is running on.

Den

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> I have foldmonitor 5.0.10 running on my W2K box monitoring itself,
> another W2K box, and a W98SE box (all running 2.15 no-nonsense
> client).  Everything works fine, except the progress on the W98SE box
> is report inaccurately.  The frame status shows what it should (00-
> 99%), but the current frame status indicates values from -400% to 0%,
> then completes the frame.  Maybe something else is going on there
> besides just the difference in operating systems, but I can't think
> of what it could be.  Any ideas?
>
> Gyro77

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