Palm's in an uphill battle: Pre vs. iPhone, rumored Foleo vs. rumored iTablet.

It's fun news actually, especially for us consumers!

--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, ldouglas <ldouglas@...> wrote:
>
> awesome! 3G on a netbook is a reason to spend $400 - also needs good
> software, but with a webOS platform - those could roll in.
>
> Wonder how this jives with the Apple "iTablet" rumor
>
> On 5/1/09, Joel Suplido <joel@...> wrote:
> > Read all about it at Palminfocenter:
> >
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9758/palm-planning-to-revive-foleo-as-a-webos\
-netbook/
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

awesome! 3G on a netbook is a reason to spend $400 - also needs good
software, but with a webOS platform - those could roll in.

Wonder how this jives with the Apple "iTablet" rumor

On 5/1/09, Joel Suplido <joel@...> wrote:
> Read all about it at Palminfocenter:
>
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9758/palm-planning-to-revive-foleo-as-a-webos\
-netbook/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Read all about it at Palminfocenter:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9758/palm-planning-to-revive-foleo-as-a-webos\
-netbook/

Yes, it does look good.
I have an Eee 901 with XP now. I eventually gave up waiting for a
Foleo II.....but I am still hoping. ;)

Looking forward to hearing about Palm's "new-ness" announcement tomorrow.

Jodi

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Joel Suplido <joel@...> wrote:
> This just got my attention. I think it's genius of Sony to go with the
> horizontal design. http://is.gd/ePyS
>
> I love it!
>
> Joel
>
>

1.4 lbs.  Wowzers!

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Joel Suplido <joel@...> wrote:
> This just got my attention. I think it's genius of Sony to go with the
horizontal design. http://is.gd/ePyS
>
> I love it!
>
> Joel
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

This just got my attention. I think it's genius of Sony to go with the
horizontal design. http://is.gd/ePyS

I love it!

Joel

PDA's are yesterday. Foleo/netbooks will be this generation's PDA. I
don't think they will be ahead enough to announce devices at CES, i am
expecting only an OS announcement.


--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Suplido" <joel@...> wrote:
>
> Palm will be at CES on January 8, 2009 to announce "Palm New-ness."
So what do you think?
> Palm Nova? Treos with Nova? New PDA's? Foleo Nova? ;)
>

Palm will be at CES on January 8, 2009 to announce "Palm New-ness." So what do
you think?
Palm Nova? Treos with Nova? New PDA's? Foleo Nova? ;)

"Plus, I've got a couple of Foleo units too that I can try out from
time to time :)"

Thanks for reminding us of what we will never have Ben! :D

Seriously we're glad to here from you.  I guess you using a netbook
says more about what functionality the original Foleo could actually
bring.

I am not gonna push my luck anymore and ask you about future Foleo
plans :D Not gonna :)


--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "Ben Combee" <ben.combee@...> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:29 PM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
> > Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> > get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
> >
> > I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> > configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
> >
> > How about you guys?
>
> As one of the Foleo engineers, I'm currently using a Asus Eee 1000H as
> my primary netbook, with a Dell Mini 9 also available when I want a
> smaller unit.  I had an original Eee 4G for a while, but sold it at
> the end of the summer.  I've also got a OLPC unit that I got as part
> of last year's Give 1 Get 1 event, but it's not used much.
>
> Plus, I've got a couple of Foleo units too that I can try out from
> time to time :)
>

On Tue November 18 2008 07:49:00 pm LD Mobile wrote:
> I thought it wasn't so good playing MP3 and videos

Videos lag (barely) unless I zoom up tcpmp using warpspeed... I think it's at
416mhz.
mp3 (and other audio formats :B) work great with ptunes!

--

--
Thanks and best regards,
Ryan Rix
TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog

And I'm-a dancin' with myself

I thought it wasn't so good playing MP3 and videos

---------------------
Sent from my Treo

-----Original Message-----

From:  Ryan Rix <phrkonaleash@...>
Subj:  Re: [foleo] Re: Who's bought their Netbook yet?
Date:  Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:26 pm
Size:  799 bytes
To:  foleo@yahoogroups.com

On Tue November 18 2008 07:22:09 pm Joel Suplido wrote:
> Btw, I was able to boot up my LifeDrive last month. It's a LifeFlash and
> was astounded that it can still keep a charge... and that all of the data
> is still intact. It's like opening a time capsule.

Haaaa,

Who needs a netbook with a Lifeflash? 8gb of flash memory (more than base EEE
4g), 12 hours battery life (4x most netbooks), bright vibrant screen, tons of
apps from tons of developers, many free. Bought mine for 100$, the price of
1/3 of one of your netbooks. I have gizmo for IM, AgendusMail for Gmail, and
(yeah, it's lacking, but stable and does its job) netfront for browsing.
And it fits in my pocket!

--
Thanks and best regards,
Ryan Rix
TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog

Ditch MP3! Screw AAC! Banish WMA! OGG for life!

in retrospect, I don't think Windows on a machine like that is feasable.

I may try to install it on an SD card eventually, but I think for such small
dimensions I'd prefer Linux. What do you think?

---------------------
Sent from my Treo

-----Original Message-----

From:  "Jodi Hansen" <jodi.hansen@...>
Subj:  Re: [foleo] Re: Who's bought their Netbook yet?
Date:  Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:10 pm
Size:  2K
To:  foleo@yahoogroups.com

I ended up getting the Eee PC 901 with XP about a month ago.
It has a 4GB C drive and a 8GB D drive. I found that only 4GB for C
drive is limiting since some applications (especially Google products)
download automatically to the C drive. I have made use of CCleaner
which has helped a lot. Now that I have set it up with the programs
that I use though I don't find the smaller C drive to be a problem. I
still don't have many Google things installed though. lol.

Jodi

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:58 AM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
> Processor. Screen.
>
> In a year the 2133 will be old hat. From my experience in gadget
> buying, buy the latest technology so you won't have the urge to
> replace it within a year at least.
>
> Plus i have always felt 10 inch is the ideal screen size for this
> category.
> And i got a great deal what cn i say :D
>
> --- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Froehle" <craig.froehle@...> wrote:
>>
>> So why'd you get the 1000 over the 2133?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 AM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I bit on it. Bought the HP Mini 1000 (16GB SSD 10 inch config)
>> >
>> > --- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
>> > > get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
>> > >
>> > > I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
>> > > configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
>> > >
>> > > How about you guys?
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

On Tue November 18 2008 07:22:09 pm Joel Suplido wrote:
> Btw, I was able to boot up my LifeDrive last month. It's a LifeFlash and
> was astounded that it can still keep a charge... and that all of the data
> is still intact. It's like opening a time capsule.

Haaaa,

Who needs a netbook with a Lifeflash? 8gb of flash memory (more than base EEE
4g), 12 hours battery life (4x most netbooks), bright vibrant screen, tons of
apps from tons of developers, many free. Bought mine for 100$, the price of
1/3 of one of your netbooks. I have gizmo for IM, AgendusMail for Gmail, and
(yeah, it's lacking, but stable and does its job) netfront for browsing.
And it fits in my pocket!

--
Thanks and best regards,
Ryan Rix
TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog

Ditch MP3! Screw AAC! Banish WMA! OGG for life!

Thanks Ben for replying! Of course we won't ever know what Palm's plan would be
but
thanks for sharing what netbook you're using for the meantime.

As for me, I've never posted it but I passed on my EeePC to my father-in-law
(who
remains to be in awe of the such a small device!). I have moved on to an iPhone
and
MacBook (first gen iPhone, previous gen MacBook) because I'm not too mobile
anymore.

Btw, I was able to boot up my LifeDrive last month. It's a LifeFlash and was
astounded that
it can still keep a charge... and that all of the data is still intact. It's
like opening a time
capsule.

Joel

--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "Ben Combee" <ben.combee@...> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:29 PM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
> > Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> > get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
> >
> > I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> > configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
> >
> > How about you guys?
>
> As one of the Foleo engineers, I'm currently using a Asus Eee 1000H as
> my primary netbook, with a Dell Mini 9 also available when I want a
> smaller unit.  I had an original Eee 4G for a while, but sold it at
> the end of the summer.  I've also got a OLPC unit that I got as part
> of last year's Give 1 Get 1 event, but it's not used much.
>
> Plus, I've got a couple of Foleo units too that I can try out from
> time to time :)
>

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 6:29 PM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
> Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
>
> I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
>
> How about you guys?

As one of the Foleo engineers, I'm currently using a Asus Eee 1000H as
my primary netbook, with a Dell Mini 9 also available when I want a
smaller unit.  I had an original Eee 4G for a while, but sold it at
the end of the summer.  I've also got a OLPC unit that I got as part
of last year's Give 1 Get 1 event, but it's not used much.

Plus, I've got a couple of Foleo units too that I can try out from
time to time :)

I ended up getting the Eee PC 901 with XP about a month ago.
It has a 4GB C drive and a 8GB D drive. I found that only 4GB for C
drive is limiting since some applications (especially Google products)
download automatically to the C drive. I have made use of CCleaner
which has helped a lot. Now that I have set it up with the programs
that I use though I don't find the smaller C drive to be a problem. I
still don't have many Google things installed though. lol.

Jodi

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:58 AM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
> Processor. Screen.
>
> In a year the 2133 will be old hat. From my experience in gadget
> buying, buy the latest technology so you won't have the urge to
> replace it within a year at least.
>
> Plus i have always felt 10 inch is the ideal screen size for this
> category.
> And i got a great deal what cn i say :D
>
> --- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Froehle" <craig.froehle@...> wrote:
>>
>> So why'd you get the 1000 over the 2133?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 AM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I bit on it. Bought the HP Mini 1000 (16GB SSD 10 inch config)
>> >
>> > --- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
>> > > get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
>> > >
>> > > I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
>> > > configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
>> > >
>> > > How about you guys?
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Processor. Screen.

In a year the 2133 will be old hat.  From my experience in gadget
buying, buy the latest technology so you won't have the urge to
replace it within a year at least.

Plus i have always felt 10 inch is the ideal screen size for this
category.
  And i got a great deal what cn i say :D

--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Froehle" <craig.froehle@...> wrote:
>
> So why'd you get the 1000 over the 2133?
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:49 AM, jeffjarin <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
>
> > Well, I bit on it.  Bought the HP Mini 1000 (16GB SSD 10 inch config)
> >
> > --- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> > > get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
> > >
> > > I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> > > configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
> > >
> > > How about you guys?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Well, I bit on it.  Bought the HP Mini 1000 (16GB SSD 10 inch config)

--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
>
> Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
>
> I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
>
> How about you guys?
>

It originally ran Linux then reformatted it to run Ubuntu (and
Xubuntu). After which I installed Windows XP.

Joel


--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "LD Mobile" <ldouglas@...> wrote:
>
> does it run windows orlinux. I've gotten an EEE with Xandros for
$300 and it's OK but I wish I'dve gotten one with the larger screen.
>
> ---------------------
> Sent from my Treo
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@...>
> Subj:  [foleo] Who's bought their Netbook yet?
> Date:  Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:29 pm
> Size:  882 bytes
> To:  foleo@yahoogroups.com
>
> Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
>
> I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
>
> How about you guys?
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

does it run windows orlinux. I've gotten an EEE with Xandros for $300 and it's
OK but I wish I'dve gotten one with the larger screen.

---------------------
Sent from my Treo

-----Original Message-----

From:  "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@...>
Subj:  [foleo] Who's bought their Netbook yet?
Date:  Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:29 pm
Size:  882 bytes
To:  foleo@yahoogroups.com

Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?

I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.

How about you guys?


------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

I actually bought the 1st Gen Eee PC. I was pretty happy with it
because I learned a lot about Linux. I even experimented with various
installation methods for Windows XP.

I took a long look at my needs and eventually settled with an iPhone.

As for the HP Mini, it has a 3 cell battery so that may be a problem.

Anyway, good luck with your purchase and let us know what happens!

Joel



--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "jeffjarin" <jeffjarin@...> wrote:
>
> Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
> get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?
>
> I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
> configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.
>
> How about you guys?
>

Are you still suffering from Foleo-Withdrawal-Syndrome and aching to
get one of the many Netbooks that have come out?

I am getting real close to getting the HP Mini 1000... 16GB SSD 10"
configuration with wifi and BT... costs a little over $500.

How about you guys?

@doug I don't think Apple will pursue this and for good reason. Look at what's
happening
now, the "netbook" market is already saturated. Take a look at one in a coffee
shop and
you'd never identify a netbook's brand (unless you're tech savvy).

Apple is staying with their plan, so to speak. I believe they've perfected
integration within
their applications and that is feature completeness in my book.

@ron it's good to know your needs. A MacBook is definitely out of the picture
but an
iPhone or even an iPod touch could probably satisfy most of your needs. However,
may I
suggest the Eee PC 1000 series or even the MSI Wind? It looks like it could
handle *all* of
what you're looking for.

Joel

--- In foleo@yahoogroups.com, "L . . ." <ldouglas@...> wrote:
>
> it seems to me that Apple doesn't want to pursue this - at least not
> the way we would like it. They seem to be more about lock in that
> feature completeness.
>
> On 8/9/08, Ron K. Jeffries <rjeffries@...> wrote:
> > http://blog.eronj.com/2008/08/09/ron-k-jeffries-we-need-a-netbook-done-
right/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ==============================
> War Eagle
>

it seems to me that Apple doesn't want to pursue this - at least not
the way we would like it. They seem to be more about lock in that
feature completeness.

On 8/9/08, Ron K. Jeffries <rjeffries@...> wrote:
> http://blog.eronj.com/2008/08/09/ron-k-jeffries-we-need-a-netbook-done-right/
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
==============================
War Eagle

http://blog.eronj.com/2008/08/09/ron-k-jeffries-we-need-a-netbook-done-right/

Hmmm ... I don't know about his assertion about this validating his
product, I think the Asus EEE (which I'm writing this on in a hotel)
both sparked and validated the netbook category - both from a feature
perspective as well as a cost perspective.

There have been small notebooks before,  but they were all expensive
(Sony, Powerbook). but the EEE was the first that didn't skimp too
much on features and delivered on size and price. $300 for a machine
capable of running windows and as expandable as it is? Foleo was a
long way away from that.

On 8/8/08, Joel Suplido <joel@...> wrote:
> Hawkins is pleased the PC giants have validated the market, but he sees much
> room for
> improvement among their early so-called "netbooks."
>
> Hawkins spoke to IBD recently about his netbooks and, for the first time at
> length, on his
> experience with the Foleo.
>
> More at:
> http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080807/tech01.html?.v=1
>
> Thanks BaDZeD!
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
==============================
War Eagle

Hawkins is pleased the PC giants have validated the market, but he sees much
room for
improvement among their early so-called "netbooks."

Hawkins spoke to IBD recently about his netbooks and, for the first time at
length, on his
experience with the Foleo.

More at:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/080807/tech01.html?.v=1

Thanks BaDZeD!

On 9/8/07, Nigel Derbyshire <nigel@...> wrote:
> it's not a phone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770), although it
> can do VOIP via the Gizmo project.

yes - but neither is the Foleo

> as for syncing, not really, although you can get it to sync with
> Google Calendars.
>
> Personally, I have log since given up on a device that does
> everything. I use my TX as my Office document viewer (Docs2Go), task
> manager, calendar, contact holder (etc). But the web browsing is junk.
> - That is where the 770 comes in -> It is a 800x480 (225 pixels per
> inch) display and a full web browser make it ideal!
>
> It connects via wifi, and also via bluetooth (via my phone, which is
> on a high-speed) 3G network.

I think all we need is a bigger TX - that runs Linux :).

> Also, because of the screen quality, i use it as an eBook / PDF reader too...
>
> yeah yeah, i know that i have to carry around loads of devices, but
> that's just the way of things!..
>
> (I also have a 12" powerbook G4, which has a great form-factor too)

agreed - I don't know why Apple went away from that with the MBP

> Having said all of that, i was actually in the market for a foleo
> anyway :-)   - i saw it as the ideal Meeting tool.  (& i have a lot of
> meetings!)



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War Eagle