Hi Yitzik, Good to have somebody new on board. Welcome, Stephan ... workshops ... treated as ... Portuguese), ... may be ... belongs (or ... "find" - ... ...
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Hugo Cesar de Castro ...
hugocesarcc
Mar 8, 2007 1:06 am
Hi Isaac, Like is written in Wikipedia: "Class 6 verbs in modern German: *fahren, graben, laden, schaffen, schlagen, tragen, waschen*; also *backen, fragen*,...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 8, 2007 11:59 am
Hi ppl, this is the list of strong verbs that remain strong/irregular in Mn EN according to T.Rastorguyeva "A History of English": Class I: abide, bite, drive,...
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stefichjo
Mar 9, 2007 3:08 pm
Hi back, How could that look like in FS? Class I: i-e-i gebid gebed gebiden Class II: y-o-o schyt schot schoten Class III: i-a-o beginn begann begonnen Class...
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Hugo Cesar de Castro ...
hugocesarcc
Mar 9, 2007 4:33 pm
I'm ok with it, but I think we can turn these 7 classes into 5 merging class III and class IV into a single class and doing the same to classes VI and VII. How...
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Hugo Cesar de Castro ...
hugocesarcc
Mar 9, 2007 4:36 pm
Class I = Ă® - e - i Class II = y-o-o (or y-o-u, since in North Germanic languages it is used "u" in past particple instead of "o") Class III/IV = i-a-o Class...
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 9, 2007 9:10 pm
Assuming that the infinitive/present tense vowels represent regular evolutions from PG vowels, then the other vowels should be regular evolutions from PG...
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 9, 2007 9:14 pm
... Why does "singe" have a long vowel? Where do you get that idea from? Is short in EN sing, NL zinge, DE singen, DA/NO synge, SV sjunga....
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 9, 2007 9:21 pm
... Or y-eu (2:, from PG *au)-o Th PG ablaut sequence when *eu - *au - *u. ... Hmmm, that is a fairly clever, sophisticated idea. Now I see a good reason for...
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stefichjo
Mar 9, 2007 11:10 pm
... merging class ... VI and ... i agree with david. ... used "u" ... it's ok for me to merge III/IV, but i feel a difference between class VI "slog" and class...
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Hugo Cesar de Castro ...
hugocesarcc
Mar 9, 2007 11:43 pm
Hi David, I thought "singe" would have a long "i" because "ng" would sound like a single phoneme: [N], but it really doesn't. It sounds like [N:] or [Ng]. And...
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 10, 2007 12:19 am
... Have a look on wikipedia, there a some good (but long) articles about this. For example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_Strong_Verb It...
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 10, 2007 12:36 am
I think that originally the ng was a consonant cluster, not a single sound. So perhaps pronounced like in EN finger rather than in EN singer. ... So you want...
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stefichjo
Mar 10, 2007 12:11 pm
sorry, but i cannot participate in the discussion about the criteria. for me both forms, e. g. "ha spreked" and "ha sproken" look valid to me. of course, i...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 10, 2007 7:49 pm
Hi ppl, in one of the recent messages I met a phrase "Consensus Folkspraak". What is this? Also, in the Wikibooks, I saw at least three variants of a conlang ...
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stefichjo
Mar 10, 2007 8:12 pm
Hi, Mr. Y, :-) I like your couriosity. :-) So, I see it like this: Folkspraak is an idea of making a conlang that resembles modern Germanic languages. Many...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 10, 2007 9:29 pm
... [skip] ... I would expect stand - stod (without N) - standen Anyway, the design principle behind all this is still obscure for me. ... -- Yitzik...
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stefichjo
Mar 10, 2007 9:37 pm
why "stod", because of EN "stood"? cf. (old) DE "stund" and DE "Stunde", and DE "stünde" (past subjunctive). they are all having "n". in my opinion, there...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 10, 2007 9:47 pm
... Hi, letter "Y" is indeed my favourite :-) ... The usual fate of an auxlang :( I see some pages on the net still hanging with older (2000 or so) versions. ...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 10, 2007 10:32 pm
... why "stod", because of EN "stood"? cf. (old) DE "stund" and DE "Stunde", and DE "stünde" (past subjunctive). they are all having "n". in my opinion, there...
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 10, 2007 11:24 pm
... Yes, Interlingua is the major inspiration for my methodology with Folksprak. I use the IL method to determine if a word belongs in the FS vocabulary; That...
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Hugo Cesar de Castro ...
hugocesarcc
Mar 11, 2007 12:03 am
Hi Isaac, Like you said we have 50% pro and 50% contra, but if we are trying to create an IAL and we have 50% of regularity and 50% of anomality, then it is...
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Dante Ferry
danteferry
Mar 11, 2007 11:38 am
Hi! I am a new member and I am interested in translating some prayers into Folkspraak. However, I still have to learn the basics. I wonder if I can request...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 11, 2007 9:43 pm
... Ditto. I would also make EN be accompanied with Friesian, NL with Afrikaans, GE with Yiddish, but in general it is much the same scheme I wanted to use in...
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David Parke
parked71
Mar 11, 2007 11:26 pm
... the FS ... in 3/4 ... Afrikaans, ... to use ... to the ... My rationale for the secondary source languages is that a word that is present in at least some...
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stefichjo
Mar 12, 2007 3:45 pm
... too much ... dear mr. y., what do you mean "schematic"? what could be less schematic? thanks for the feed-back. ... members of ... giving feed-back and...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 14, 2007 8:59 am
... One time is enough. Call me Yitzik or Ynggwair (as one of my names IRL is "Igor"). ... You are welcome. I am short of time now, I'll try to make more...
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stefichjo
Mar 14, 2007 2:28 pm
sorry ynggwair. it's difficult to chose a name when there are too many options (what about isaac?). so then, i will leave (my) folksprak as it is for the...
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chamavian
Mar 19, 2007 7:57 pm
In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Isaac Penzev" <isaacp@...> wrote: BTW, I know an Ingmar from my previous conlang experience. Isn't he Ingmar Roerdinkholder? ...
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Isaac Penzev
yitzik_ua
Mar 21, 2007 8:40 am
... Hallo, Ingmar! ... "We control everything". ... Exactly. ... I am trying to keep my eye on most conlanging groups on the web. I am not very active here...
