Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning folkspraak

(i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any definitive

grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?



A sheynem dank,

Scott

Hi Scott and welcome to the group.



No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry, that grammar

of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.



Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in the file

section?



--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@...> wrote:

>

> Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning

folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any

definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

>

> A sheynem dank,

> Scott

>

Hei Scott,



Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!



Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de Middelsprak

grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.



Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd Folksprak (FF),

ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's FS).



De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.



ik groet ju al hertlik



Ingmar







--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

>

> No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry, that grammar

of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

>

> Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in the file

section?

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> >

> > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning

folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any

definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> >

> > A sheynem dank,

> > Scott

> >

>

Hei Ingmar,



Is the FF grammar in the files section?



Scott









--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@...> wrote:

>

> Hei Scott,

>

> Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

>

> Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de Middelsprak

grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

>

> Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd Folksprak

(FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's FS).

>

> De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

>

> ik groet ju al hertlik

>

> Ingmar

>

>

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> >

> > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry, that

grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

> >

> > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in the file

section?

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning

folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any

definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> > >

> > > A sheynem dank,

> > > Scott

> > >

> >

>

Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)



--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@...> wrote:

>

> Hei Ingmar,

>

> Is the FF grammar in the files section?

>

> Scott

>

>

>

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >

> > Hei Scott,

> >

> > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> >

> > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de Middelsprak

grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> >

> > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd Folksprak

(FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's FS).

> >

> > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> >

> > ik groet ju al hertlik

> >

> > Ingmar

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> > >

> > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry, that

grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

> > >

> > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in the file

section?

> > >

> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning

folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any

definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> > > >

> > > > A sheynem dank,

> > > > Scott

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan finde et oek

nit in de dokument-avdeling.

Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".



In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan Schneider

ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered to make 1 gemensan

form.



Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat mer.



Ingmar



--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@...> wrote:

>

> Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> >

> > Hei Ingmar,

> >

> > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

> >

> > Scott

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hei Scott,

> > >

> > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> > >

> > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de

Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> > >

> > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd Folksprak

(FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's FS).

> > >

> > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> > >

> > > ik groet ju al hertlik

> > >

> > > Ingmar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> > > >

> > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry, that

grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

> > > >

> > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in the

file section?

> > > >

> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning

folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any

definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> > > > >

> > > > > A sheynem dank,

> > > > > Scott

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Ok i'll take a look at that file. Thanks Ingmar :-). Hopefully soon i'll be able

to converse with you without using English (Though I am understanding you well

:-P).



Scott



--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@...> wrote:

>

> Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan finde et oek

nit in de dokument-avdeling.

> Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".

>

> In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan Schneider

ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered to make 1 gemensan

form.

>

> Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat mer.

>

> Ingmar

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >

> > Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hei Ingmar,

> > >

> > > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

> > >

> > > Scott

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hei Scott,

> > > >

> > > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> > > >

> > > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de

Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> > > >

> > > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd

Folksprak (FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's

FS).

> > > >

> > > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> > > >

> > > > ik groet ju al hertlik

> > > >

> > > > Ingmar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> > > > >

> > > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry, that

grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in the

file section?

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin learning

folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are there any

definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A sheynem dank,

> > > > > > Scott

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Ja, tank di. Ond ik hop oek dat de ander sprekers/schrivers schal gebruke FF nu,

ond nit mer der egen dialekt...





--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@...> wrote:

>

> Ok i'll take a look at that file. Thanks Ingmar :-). Hopefully soon i'll be

able to converse with you without using English (Though I am understanding you

well :-P).

>

> Scott

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >

> > Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan finde et

oek nit in de dokument-avdeling.

> > Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".

> >

> > In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan

Schneider ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered to make 1

gemensan form.

> >

> > Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat mer.

> >

> > Ingmar

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

> > >

> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hei Ingmar,

> > > >

> > > > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

> > > >

> > > > Scott

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hei Scott,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de

Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> > > > >

> > > > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd

Folksprak (FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's

FS).

> > > > >

> > > > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> > > > >

> > > > > ik groet ju al hertlik

> > > > >

> > > > > Ingmar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry,

that grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in

the file section?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin

learning folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are

there any definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A sheynem dank,

> > > > > > > Scott

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Hey all,



Pardon for my lack of understanding, but does this mean that there is no place

to learn FF yet? I looked at the comparison of the 3 varieties and couldn't find

Ferenigd Folkspraak, am I by chance looking in the wrong place?



Cheers,

Chrisso



--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@...> wrote:

>

> Ja, tank di. Ond ik hop oek dat de ander sprekers/schrivers schal gebruke FF

nu, ond nit mer der egen dialekt...

>

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> >

> > Ok i'll take a look at that file. Thanks Ingmar :-). Hopefully soon i'll be

able to converse with you without using English (Though I am understanding you

well :-P).

> >

> > Scott

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan finde et

oek nit in de dokument-avdeling.

> > > Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".

> > >

> > > In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan

Schneider ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered to make 1

gemensan form.

> > >

> > > Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat mer.

> > >

> > > Ingmar

> > >

> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

> > > >

> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hei Ingmar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

> > > > >

> > > > > Scott

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hei Scott,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de

Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd

Folksprak (FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's ond Ingmar's

FS).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ik groet ju al hertlik

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ingmar

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And, sorry,

that grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the moment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar in

the file section?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin

learning folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar of David Parke). Are

there any definitive grammars yet or agreed upon dialect?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A sheynem dank,

> > > > > > > > Scott

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

It's not just you. FF is absent from the group's files right now. Your

best bet is to use the comparison of 3 varieties and construct a happy

medium. Unfortunately there is not a standard dialect to choose from

or use. If you come up with any good ideas feel free to share them,

though. :-)



Scott



On 7/19/09, ceigered <ceigered@...> wrote:

> Hey all,

>

> Pardon for my lack of understanding, but does this mean that there is no

> place to learn FF yet? I looked at the comparison of the 3 varieties and

> couldn't find Ferenigd Folkspraak, am I by chance looking in the wrong

> place?

>

> Cheers,

> Chrisso

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@...> wrote:

>>

>> Ja, tank di. Ond ik hop oek dat de ander sprekers/schrivers schal gebruke

>> FF nu, ond nit mer der egen dialekt...

>>

>>

>> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

>> >

>> > Ok i'll take a look at that file. Thanks Ingmar :-). Hopefully soon i'll

>> > be able to converse with you without using English (Though I am

>> > understanding you well :-P).

>> >

>> > Scott

>> >

>> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan

>> > > finde et oek nit in de dokument-avdeling.

>> > > Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".

>> > >

>> > > In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan

>> > > Schneider ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered

>> > > to make 1 gemensan form.

>> > >

>> > > Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat

>> > > mer.

>> > >

>> > > Ingmar

>> > >

>> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

>> > > >

>> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@>

>> > > > wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Hei Ingmar,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Scott

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Hei Scott,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de

>> > > > > > Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd

>> > > > > > Folksprak (FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's

>> > > > > > ond Ingmar's FS).

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ik groet ju al hertlik

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Ingmar

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@>

>> > > > > > wrote:

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And,

>> > > > > > > sorry, that grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the

>> > > > > > > moment.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar

>> > > > > > > in the file section?

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner"

>> > > > > > > <tangentaxis@> wrote:

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin

>> > > > > > > > learning folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar

>> > > > > > > > of David Parke). Are there any definitive grammars yet or

>> > > > > > > > agreed upon dialect?

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > A sheynem dank,

>> > > > > > > > Scott

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>





--

i left my heart in syntax error !@#$

Welcome to our new members.



People who are expecting a language ready for instant action are I think going

to be disappointed.



There is no place to learn FS yet because there isn't a complete language yet.

Just some varieties/dialects, none of which I would call complete or viable yet.

What we really need at this stage are members who are willing to contribute,

people with some experience in Germanic linguistics to help research and build

up the vocabulary. Fresh ideas are also welcome. Although before re-inventing

the wheel and creating one's own "dialect" of FS, please consider looking at

what is already in place and see if you can contribute anything to improve them.



Me and Ingmar /Chamavian both have our own Yahoo groups with our own projects

for building inter-germanic languages. You can check these out:

Ingmar's:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Middelsprake/



Mine (David Parke):

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/frenkisch/



Our approaches are quite different you will find.



On this group we are working to create a co-operative joint project. Hopefully

with the best ideas from our own projects and with the help of other like-minded

people, we will create the best constructed language that has ever existed.



If you want a some international/inter-germanic vocabulary, take a look at my

file uberlist4293-ny ortografi.xls.



This may be found in the files section of this group in the "vordenbuk" folder.



Welcome,

David Parke.







--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, Scott Heavner <tangentaxis@...> wrote:

>

> It's not just you. FF is absent from the group's files right now. Your

> best bet is to use the comparison of 3 varieties and construct a happy

> medium. Unfortunately there is not a standard dialect to choose from

> or use. If you come up with any good ideas feel free to share them,

> though. :-)

>

> Scott

>

> On 7/19/09, ceigered <ceigered@...> wrote:

> > Hey all,

> >

> > Pardon for my lack of understanding, but does this mean that there is no

> > place to learn FF yet? I looked at the comparison of the 3 varieties and

> > couldn't find Ferenigd Folkspraak, am I by chance looking in the wrong

> > place?

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Chrisso

> >

> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >>

> >> Ja, tank di. Ond ik hop oek dat de ander sprekers/schrivers schal gebruke

> >> FF nu, ond nit mer der egen dialekt...

> >>

> >>

> >> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Ok i'll take a look at that file. Thanks Ingmar :-). Hopefully soon i'll

> >> > be able to converse with you without using English (Though I am

> >> > understanding you well :-P).

> >> >

> >> > Scott

> >> >

> >> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan

> >> > > finde et oek nit in de dokument-avdeling.

> >> > > Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".

> >> > >

> >> > > In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan

> >> > > Schneider ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered

> >> > > to make 1 gemensan form.

> >> > >

> >> > > Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat

> >> > > mer.

> >> > >

> >> > > Ingmar

> >> > >

> >> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

> >> > > >

> >> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@>

> >> > > > wrote:

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Hei Ingmar,

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Scott

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Hei Scott,

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av de

> >> > > > > > Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke Ferenigd

> >> > > > > > Folksprak (FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's, Stephan's

> >> > > > > > ond Ingmar's FS).

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > ik groet ju al hertlik

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Ingmar

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@>

> >> > > > > > wrote:

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And,

> >> > > > > > > sorry, that grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the

> >> > > > > > > moment.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak grammar

> >> > > > > > > in the file section?

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner"

> >> > > > > > > <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin

> >> > > > > > > > learning folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar

> >> > > > > > > > of David Parke). Are there any definitive grammars yet or

> >> > > > > > > > agreed upon dialect?

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > A sheynem dank,

> >> > > > > > > > Scott

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> i left my heart in syntax error !@#$

>

Hey  Scott and David,

Cheers for that information :)

While at first the fact there is no current standard does make things

intimidating, I would have to say that I can understand the current situation of

the Folkspraak project. I'm an amateur linguist at best, so I don't know how

much practical help I'll be, but I'll stick by and wait for the best constructed

language that has ever existed ;)



And I've seen Frenkisch and Middelsprake before, good work on them by the way!



(and in regards to reinventing the wheel, I don't think I'd be doing that, any

auxlangs I try to design are generally aimed at different groups or just for fun

:) )



--- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@...> wrote:

>

> Welcome to our new members.

>

> People who are expecting a language ready for instant action are I think going

to be disappointed.

>

> There is no place to learn FS yet because there isn't a complete language yet.

Just some varieties/dialects, none of which I would call complete or viable yet.

What we really need at this stage are members who are willing to contribute,

people with some experience in Germanic linguistics to help research and build

up the vocabulary. Fresh ideas are also welcome. Although before re-inventing

the wheel and creating one's own "dialect" of FS, please consider looking at

what is already in place and see if you can contribute anything to improve them.

>

> Me and Ingmar /Chamavian both have our own Yahoo groups with our own projects

for building inter-germanic languages. You can check these out:

> Ingmar's:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Middelsprake/

>

> Mine (David Parke):

> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/frenkisch/

>

> Our approaches are quite different you will find.

>

> On this group we are working to create a co-operative joint project. Hopefully

with the best ideas from our own projects and with the help of other like-minded

people, we will create the best constructed language that has ever existed.

>

> If you want a some international/inter-germanic vocabulary, take a look at my

file uberlist4293-ny ortografi.xls.

>

> This may be found in the files section of this group in the "vordenbuk"

folder.

>

> Welcome,

> David Parke.

>

>

>

> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, Scott Heavner <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> >

> > It's not just you. FF is absent from the group's files right now. Your

> > best bet is to use the comparison of 3 varieties and construct a happy

> > medium. Unfortunately there is not a standard dialect to choose from

> > or use. If you come up with any good ideas feel free to share them,

> > though. :-)

> >

> > Scott

> >

> > On 7/19/09, ceigered <ceigered@> wrote:

> > > Hey all,

> > >

> > > Pardon for my lack of understanding, but does this mean that there is no

> > > place to learn FF yet? I looked at the comparison of the 3 varieties and

> > > couldn't find Ferenigd Folkspraak, am I by chance looking in the wrong

> > > place?

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Chrisso

> > >

> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Ja, tank di. Ond ik hop oek dat de ander sprekers/schrivers schal gebruke

> > >> FF nu, ond nit mer der egen dialekt...

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > Ok i'll take a look at that file. Thanks Ingmar :-). Hopefully soon

i'll

> > >> > be able to converse with you without using English (Though I am

> > >> > understanding you well :-P).

> > >> >

> > >> > Scott

> > >> >

> > >> > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Och, ontschuldig mi, dar is noch nit en FF grammatik... so du kan

> > >> > > finde et oek nit in de dokument-avdeling.

> > >> > > Antil nu, dar is alenig "Comparison of three Folksprak Varieties".

> > >> > >

> > >> > > In dat dokument ik fergelike de FS dialekt av David Park, av Stephan

> > >> > > Schneider ond av mi selv (Ingmar Roerdinkholder), ond ik hav probered

> > >> > > to make 1 gemensan form.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Ik tenke dat wi kan gebruke mennig help mid dat, to ontweckele dat

> > >> > > mer.

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Ingmar

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Ja, dat is in de dokument-avdeling  ;-)

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner" <tangentaxis@>

> > >> > > > wrote:

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > Hei Ingmar,

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > Is the FF grammar in the files section?

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > Scott

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "chamavian" <roerd096@> wrote:

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > Hei Scott,

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > Ik wil sege di welkomme hir oek!

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > Ond to antworde David's frag: ja, dar is en recent version av

de

> > >> > > > > > Middelsprak grammatik in de dokument-avdeling.

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > Doch ik tenk dat et is better dat wi probere to gebruke

Ferenigd

> > >> > > > > > Folksprak (FF), ond nit mer uns egen dialekt (David's,

Stephan's

> > >> > > > > > ond Ingmar's FS).

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > De tekst dat ik schriv nu is oek in FF, ond nit in Middelsprak.

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > ik groet ju al hertlik

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > Ingmar

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "David Parke" <parked@>

> > >> > > > > > wrote:

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > Hi Scott and welcome to the group.

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > No there isn't an agreed upon dialect or grammar yet. And,

> > >> > > > > > > sorry, that grammar of mine is a bit old and obsolete at the

> > >> > > > > > > moment.

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > Ingmar, is there a current version of your Middelsprak

grammar

> > >> > > > > > > in the file section?

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > --- In folkspraak@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Heavner"

> > >> > > > > > > <tangentaxis@> wrote:

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Being new to the group, what would be the best way to begin

> > >> > > > > > > > learning folkspraak (i have downloaded the concise grammar

> > >> > > > > > > > of David Parke). Are there any definitive grammars yet or

> > >> > > > > > > > agreed upon dialect?

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > A sheynem dank,

> > >> > > > > > > > Scott

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > >

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > --

> > i left my heart in syntax error !@#$

> >

>