OK I found an English translation of Sterrenstof http://lyricstranslate.com Stardust Ikki, flikki, ikki, kikki Uhu-um, Gé Well look your buddy lives sweet as...
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Pieter Jan Bos
pj.bos7
Jun 25, 2011 9:54 pm
This one is old, but that doesn't matter. THis is one of my favorite dutch songs, most dutch people around here will know it. Rough translation for the other...
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chamavian
Jun 25, 2011 10:22 pm
Thanks Pieter Jan! Yeah, this was one of the first songs in Achterhoeks (or any Low Saxon dialect) that became a national hit in the Netherlands. I remember...
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Mortification7
pj.bos7
Jun 25, 2011 10:48 pm
Haha ok, sorry for the mistakes. In my dialect ie is he and zie is she. There are so much differences and i like it, it shows the diversity, the different...
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swartsaxon
Jun 25, 2011 11:48 pm
OK thanks. Still not sure what they're saying, though....
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David Parke
parked71
Jun 26, 2011 3:11 am
Thanks, I'll think about the lang [laNk] to lange ["laN@] idea It does seem to fit the pattern. In case you've not noticed, "å" represents the evolution from...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 5:54 am
Yeah, I noticed but you could also just spell aa for that - like in Low Saxon e.g. in schaap, gaan, laat etc. where aa is pronounced [Q:], [O:] or [o:],...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 6:12 am
They say a lot of things, the lead singer sings about his addicted mother, so he had to take care of himself when he was 11 years old. And about meeting a...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 6:26 am
Cool, Urkers is a very unique island dialect, it reminds me of Low Saxon but also of Frisian, Hollandic and even Zeeuws. Zie (or zee in other LS dialects) is...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 7:10 am
this is an oldie, too. One of the first Black Dutch hits here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=741PkVobAek&feature=related...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 12:38 pm
if you wanna hear a Dutch accent in English and Spanish, listen to this "what the fuck": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwq-T2CrJRU&NR=1&feature=fvwp...
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swartsaxon
Jun 26, 2011 3:51 pm
This is Surinamese, no doubt? Sounds a lot like Trinidadian Calypso. AJ...
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swartsaxon
Jun 26, 2011 4:07 pm
Couldn't help but notice her Dutch v's on "viva" (they sound like f's), when in Spanish they should be pronounced like b or [B]. Also "gente" she pronounces...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 4:37 pm
fifa la fiesta, fiva la noche, fiva los dj's, wot da fock! johnny, la xänte ästa muy locaaaah...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 4:43 pm
yeah they're originally Surinamese, but live here for ages and the song is in Dutch with only an accent and some Surinamese (Sranan) sounds. There is also a...
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swartsaxon
Jun 26, 2011 5:46 pm
Yeah, I noticed the [w]'s as in English, not like typical Dutch w's....
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 8:14 pm
Probably rather from West African languages than from English. The Surinamese creoles have a surpriselingly African phonology, even much more so than creoles...
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swartsaxon
Jun 26, 2011 8:36 pm
Well yes, I certainly didn't mean that the Surinamese acquired that pronunciation habit from English, with which they probably have had very limited to no...
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chamavian
Jun 26, 2011 8:44 pm
This old movie about the Surinamese Bush Negroes is interesting too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3AfV__zcjo...
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chamavian
Jun 27, 2011 10:34 am
Well, Saramaccan is the most unique and less English-based one of the Surinamese Bush Negro creoles, it has much more Portuguese and African vocabulary than...
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Will Beazley
willbeaz
Jun 27, 2011 12:41 pm
Methinks that Ik shall be the easiest to use in all cases. -- ________________________________ From: swartsaxon <anjarrette@...> To:...
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chamavian
Jun 29, 2011 2:07 pm
I guess "ik" would probably be most members' favourite, but unfortunately in Folksprak it would be pronounced like English "eek" when it's spelled that way,...
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swartsaxon
Jun 30, 2011 5:38 am
I thought of a proposal to potentially solve the problem of the indication of short vowels vs. long vowels, and the problem it creates in short function words...
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folkspraak@yahoogroup...
Jun 30, 2011 12:06 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the folkspraak group. File : /1555...
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chamavian
Jun 30, 2011 7:56 pm
interesting... but is all this something going towards the unification of Folksprak we've finally begun to achieve, as against all those personal varieties?...
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David
parked71
Jun 30, 2011 10:14 pm
This is nothing to do with "personal"; varieties. This is for the benefit of the creator(s) of the Skandinaviska language. I would have posted it on that group,...
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David
parked71
Jun 30, 2011 10:24 pm
Love it Andy! So words that never need to have suffixes added can follow "dutch" conventions. So short vowels just can have a singular following consonant? ...
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swartsaxon
Jun 30, 2011 10:35 pm
Thanks David. Your proposals sound sound....
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chamavian
Jul 1, 2011 5:06 am
Actually I meant Skandinavisk(a?) itself with another personal variety. Nothing against Skandinavisk(a) but do you remember that we had times here that maybe...
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chamavian
Jul 1, 2011 5:19 am
I think in itself it isn't a bad idea at all. But I foresee some problems that may make it a bit too complex, especially for a conlang: how can someone know...
