If you're seeing this (and I bet you are!), then we've successfully
moved you from the old Teleport hosting of this list to the
Yahoo!Groups (formerly egroups.com) hosting.

I'm sad to see Teleport go. I've been with Teleport since it was a
small machine in the back of Jim Deibele's "TechBook" technical book
store. Jim and I became acquainted when I needed an email-savvy
bookstore to provide dual-autographed copies of the first Camel book
in winter 1990. He offered to take orders, both by phone and by
email, and ship them at $40/copy, and got many takers during those
first few years. His BBS machine became one of the first
public-access ftp/telnet-capable machines in the area, offering Unix
dialup shell accounts to whomever put up the $10/month. Later, that
became PPP accounts, and then over the years, Techbook grew up to be
Teleport, the largest ISP in the Pacific Northwest, with something on
the order of 30,000 subscribers, but still operated by Jim and an able
staff.

Last year, Jim sold the operation to OneMain, and OneMain is not in
the Unix shell game, so we shell users started counting the days. One
by one, services that Jim had established got ripped down, and as of
two months ago, the mailing list machine was gone. Last month,
the Unix Shell machine was also turned off... the end of an era.

In the midst of this, OneMain got bought out by Earthlink, confusing
the support issues even further, so even though I've paid for some
sort of access until I think July of this year, I can't even get them
to recognize my password any more, so there's a bunch of files sitting
on the disk that I cannot reach, and a bunch of email sent to
merlyn@... that I'll probably never see.

Those of you following my case closely also recognize Jim as one of
the witness in my trial, since it was the "techbook" break-in that got
me thinking about how I hadn't yet played with Crack v.4. And Jim's
"thank you" mail spurred me on to look around at how else I could
help, since I already had Crack running on a fairly unloaded machine.

So, "techbook -> teleport -> onemain -> earthlink" is no longer
hosting this list. We old-timers mourn its passing, and wish the best
of luck to Jim in wherever his money and desire is now taking him.

For the FORS-relevant section of this posting, check out the
Slashdot thread at

<http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/03/13/208259&threshold=-1&commentsort=3&\
mode=nested&cid=42>

and feel free to comment there or here about it.

I have some other things to say about the ongoing case, but I'll save
it for another post.

Your list nanny, and subject of occasional discussion,
Randal

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