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305 Elizabeth D Rather
erather Send Email
Jul 1, 2009
7:38 am
... In the first place, the word that Mitch and others are referring to is BUFFER: (it's been around since the 80's). It can coexist with CREATE ... No code...
306 Bernd Paysan
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Jul 1, 2009
7:41 am
... No, this wouldn't have to be changed. The code with CREATE still works, it just has a little more overhead than the BUFFER: solution. You only have to ...
307 Richard Borrell
rgb2forth Send Email
Jul 1, 2009
8:21 am
It's not just the source code that is broken, it's the documentation too. Documentation that changes for life-critical applications has to be re-submitted -...
308 stephen@...
sfprem Send Email
Jul 1, 2009
3:55 pm
... Stephen said no such thing! What I said was that <BUILDS ... DOES> may have some merit, but that Hugh has provided no numeric evidence for his assertions....
309 Hugh Aguilar
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Jul 2, 2009
4:00 pm
I apologize to Stephen Pelc for crediting him with the idea of introducing <BUILDS for use with DOES>, but also allowing CREATE to still be used in this manner...
310 Mitch Bradley
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Jul 2, 2009
4:13 pm
... That expectation does not agree with my expectation at all....
311 Leon Wagner
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Jul 2, 2009
4:26 pm
... No, it is not okay. It appears that you have not been following the Forth200x process and have not read the current draft as your expectations seem to be...
312 Elizabeth D Rather
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Jul 3, 2009
3:12 am
... This is why it was mandated that DOES> is only guaranteed to work with CREATE, not with other defining words. Operationally, FORTH, Inc. and most other...
313 stephen@...
sfprem Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
6:41 am
Posted by: "Hugh Aguilar" ... Rubbish. VFX treats children of CREATE as CONSTANTs. It can also optimise the DOES> clause such that when DOES> x + @ ; is the...
314 Richard Borrell
rgb2forth Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
6:50 am
... Having spent years creating documentation for medical products I wholeheartedly agree with Elisabeth. The last thing the community needs is for Forth to...
315 Bernd Paysan
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Jul 3, 2009
7:59 am
... Of course there is. bigForth and gforth-fast detect CREATE in COMPILE, and compile a literal when it's a CREATE without DOES>. VFX Forth does the same ...
316 Jonah Thomas
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Jul 3, 2009
2:38 pm
This is long and philosophical, I intended it primarily for Hugh Aguilar and posted it here in case it amuses someone. It does not need careful attention as...
317 Hugh Aguilar
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Jul 5, 2009
8:04 am
Having a word perform two disparate functions is bad design. Everybody knows that! The well-known proverb is: "Let the dictionary do the deciding" (see the...
318 Hugh Aguilar
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Jul 5, 2009
8:07 am
Author ... Hugh Aguilar Problem ... There is no good way to construct colon words from within other colon words. We can compile the code okay, but we can't...
319 Bernd Paysan
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Jul 5, 2009
11:33 am
... I really think you should take Stephen's advice and look at other Forth systems before you propose something. Gforth e.g. already has a solution to your...
320 georgeahubert Jul 5, 2009
12:08 pm
... I would have said put them in a buffer and EVALUATE them would be better, though it's still kind of kludgy. ... It's trival to use GET-CURRENT if the word...
321 Anton Ertl
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Jul 5, 2009
12:16 pm
... I think that his approach here is ok. An RfD is a request for *discussion* after all. So if there are other solutions to the problem, they will hopefully...
322 georgeahubert Jul 5, 2009
12:35 pm
... Win32Forth also treats CREATEd words with no DOES> as literals ( and also objects, CONSTANTs and all types of variable ). The trick is CREATE sets the...
323 Hugh Aguilar
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Jul 6, 2009
10:02 pm
________________________________ From: Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@...> To: forth200x@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 5:12:10 AM Subject: Re:...
324 jethomas3182 Send Email Jul 6, 2009
11:53 pm
... OK. Overloading CREATE was a bad idea from the beginning, but it's too late to fix the problem now and most compiler-writers have adapted to handle it. One...
325 Elizabeth D Rather
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Jul 6, 2009
11:59 pm
... How do you figure CREATE is "overloaded&quot;? Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada)...
326 jethomas3182 Send Email Jul 7, 2009
1:00 am
... I'm not clear quite what the problem here is. When do you want to get the name? If you want to get the name when the word executes, then why not put the...
327 georgeahubert Jul 7, 2009
8:39 am
... I don't think either is particularly difficult to explain, though I doubt novices would be using them, since they are both advanced concepts which IMO...
328 georgeahubert Jul 7, 2009
9:05 am
... CREATE always had to work with ;CODE anyway, so whoever thunk of using an assembler call instruction to locate the code (at least in ITC Forths) did us all...
329 Elizabeth D Rather
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Jul 7, 2009
5:18 pm
... The innovation you mention was the work of Dean Sanderson, at FORTH, Inc., in the early 80's. Thank you for pointing out that CREATE hasn't changed and...
330 Hugh Aguilar
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Jul 7, 2009
9:08 pm
As for whether words such as HEADER and NEXTNAME are "advanced"; and appropriate for novices, or not, I would say that the question is moot because Forth...
331 Elizabeth D Rather
erather Send Email
Jul 7, 2009
11:16 pm
... Yeah, right. Over the weekend one can not only read the text, but also memorize over 400 words with their definitions and stack effects. All without...
332 Mitch Bradley
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Jul 8, 2009
3:42 am
Here is my swag at the right way to do DOES>. I don't mean DOES> exactly, but rather the abstract thing that DOES> does. (How's that for an obtuse...
333 Stephen Pelc
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Jul 8, 2009
11:00 am
... The factoring of HEADER is actually more complex. In practise, as per FIG-Forth, you need doCreate, doColon and friends as well. With modern CPUs and...
334 Anton Ertl
anton@... Send Email
Jul 8, 2009
1:28 pm
... align here <builder-stuff> ['] MY-ACTION ACTOR: ; ... This technique can also be varied to not work with addresses, but directly with the data (where it is...
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