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#640 From: Dan Woehr <danwoehr@...>
Date: Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Re: Identity Crisis
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Amy

I second the vote on mosasaur.  I've found similar
stuff in the North Sulphur River, and seen similar
stuff described in books.  You found some good
material!
--- Amy <osmr2duck@...> wrote:
> --- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, otodus3
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Hi again Amy,
> > My best guess would be mosasaur. The tooth basals
> appear reptile.
> > However it could be a fish as well.  If you would
> post a few more
> > pictures a little closer up.
> > Andy
>
> > Hi Andy,
> > First, let me say thanks for your rapid response.
> > I really appreciate your help. Mosasaur was high
> on my list of
> > "could be's" as well. I will try some closer-upper
> images for ya.
> > I am in the process of photographing some of my
> favorite finds, so
> > you can probably expect more stuff in my album
> real soon. As usual,
> > I'll be looking for more help with
> identifications, so get ready!
> > Also, I read your Yahoo profile, and am curious to
> know what kind of
> > antique flowers you grow. If you don't mind, I'd
> like to add you to
> > my Friends list. I'd love to chat sometime!
> > Thanks again !
> > Amy
>
>


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#639 From: otodus3
Date: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:18 am
Subject: Re: Identity Crisis
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Hello again Amy, sure add me when you want to chat just holler.
I collect mainly roses, but I do have a lot of pure strain bulbed
plants, like john quills, snow drops, grap hyacenth, etc.
At last count I have close to 130 rose bushes. I have just about
every color you can think of from white , to green , to black, to all
points in between lol. I have branched off into mini roses. Right now
my peaked interest in the roses.
I am growing one particular one that is gorgeous at 3 inches tall
with pin head sized blooms called Si. I believe it is the smallest
cultivated rose around.

#638 From: "Amy" <osmr2duck@...>
Date: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:06 am
Subject: Re: Identity Crisis
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--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, otodus3 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hi again Amy,
> My best guess would be mosasaur. The tooth basals appear reptile.
> However it could be a fish as well.  If you would post a few more
> pictures a little closer up.
> Andy

> Hi Andy,
> First, let me say thanks for your rapid response.
> I really appreciate your help. Mosasaur was high on my list of
> "could be's" as well. I will try some closer-upper images for ya.
> I am in the process of photographing some of my favorite finds, so
> you can probably expect more stuff in my album real soon. As usual,
> I'll be looking for more help with identifications, so get ready!
> Also, I read your Yahoo profile, and am curious to know what kind of
> antique flowers you grow. If you don't mind, I'd like to add you to
> my Friends list. I'd love to chat sometime!
> Thanks again !
> Amy

#637 From: "Amy" <osmr2duck@...>
Date: Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:06 am
Subject: Re: Identity Crisis
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--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, otodus3 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hi again Amy,
> My best guess would be mosasaur. The tooth basals appear reptile.
> However it could be a fish as well.  If you would post a few more
> pictures a little closer up.
> Andy

> Hi Andy,
> First, let me say thanks for your rapid response.
> I really appreciate your help. Mosasaur was high on my list of
> "could be's" as well. I will try some closer-upper images for ya.
> I am in the process of photographing some of my favorite finds, so
> you can probably expect more stuff in my album real soon. As usual,
> I'll be looking for more help with identifications, so get ready!
> Also, I read your Yahoo profile, and am curious to know what kind of
> antique flowers you grow. If you don't mind, I'd like to add you to
> my Friends list. I'd love to chat sometime!
> Thanks again !
> Amy

#636 From: otodus3
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Identity Crisis
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Hi again Amy,
My best guess would be mosasaur. The tooth basals appear reptile.
However it could be a fish as well.  If you would post a few more
pictures a little closer up.
Andy

#635 From: "Amy" <osmr2duck@...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:49 pm
Subject: Identity Crisis
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Hello, I am looking for help again !
Please look at my pics in the Photo Album - Texas Fossils.
If anyone can help me I.D. the jaws (snout) from these pics, I would
really love to hear from you ! They were found in the Eagle Ford
Shale, in Southeast Tarrant County.
Thanks alot !
    Amy

#634 From: "coprolith1" <coprolith1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:12 am
Subject: Re: Formation of New Palaeobotany Group
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--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, paleoresearch <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, paleomama <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > I would like those of you who have an interest in and collect plant
> > fossils to check out the new Group that is being formed called
> > Palaeobotany Group. The new Group is separate from the old
> Paleobotany
> > Group as that one's moderator abandoned the group and it has become
> a
> > base for spammers.
> > This new Group is to be monitored closely to keep out spammers, etc.
> > It is to be a very active Group and also very interesting. There are
> > no fees - the only requirements are interest and participation.
> > I hope to see you there, paleomama
>
> Let me know how to reach the Paleobotany Group and I'll try it for a
> while.  Hope I like it.
> Sam

Greetings Sam,

I will send you a personal invitation from the Palaeobotany Group that will
bypass the approval process.

Regards,
Mike - moderator of the Palaoebotany Group.

#633 From: paleoresearch
Date: Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:09 am
Subject: Re: Formation of New Palaeobotany Group
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--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, paleomama <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I would like those of you who have an interest in and collect plant
> fossils to check out the new Group that is being formed called
> Palaeobotany Group. The new Group is separate from the old
Paleobotany
> Group as that one's moderator abandoned the group and it has become
a
> base for spammers.
> This new Group is to be monitored closely to keep out spammers, etc.
> It is to be a very active Group and also very interesting. There are
> no fees - the only requirements are interest and participation.
> I hope to see you there, paleomama

Let me know how to reach the Paleobotany Group and I'll try it for a
while.  Hope I like it.
Sam

#632 From: paleomama
Date: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: New Palaeobotany Group URL
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#631 From: paleomama
Date: Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: Formation of New Palaeobotany Group
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I would like those of you who have an interest in and collect plant
fossils to check out the new Group that is being formed called
Palaeobotany Group. The new Group is separate from the old Paleobotany
Group as that one's moderator abandoned the group and it has become a
base for spammers.
This new Group is to be monitored closely to keep out spammers, etc.
It is to be a very active Group and also very interesting. There are
no fees - the only requirements are interest and participation.
I hope to see you there, paleomama

#630 From: otodus3
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:18 pm
Subject: Re: help identify these vertibrate
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Hi again Amy,
I dont have pics of the vetrs, but it is 2 inches across. I do have a
website. In the gallery,on the site i have a lot of my finds, I also
have my entire collection listed. with some photos in that section.
I dont have everything photoed. It spans 300 million years, over 500
species, somewhere over 12000 specimens.( lost count lol. The site is
real easy to navigate, namely because I am not a computer whiz.
Well anyways here is the site:
www.reflections-of-the-past.cc

type it with the dashes in it.
Andy

#629 From: "Amy" <osmr2duck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: help identify these vertibrate
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--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, otodus3 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Hello Amy,
> I live near DFW.  The compressed ones are shark vertebrae centrums.
> The two associated ones look Xiphactinus.
> No way of telling what species of shark they came from though.  The
> Eagle Ford group had some monster sharks. The biggest ones that
come
> from Texas are in that grouping. I am a pretty avid collector of
> shark material, the largest vert I have is close to inches across.

you left out the number of inches across that your largest shark
vert. measures. now i'm left to wondering ........
thanks alot for your help! also, do you have any pics of any of your
stuff? i'd be very interested in seeing what you have.
thanks again, Amy

#628 From: otodus3
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: help identify these vertibrate
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Hello Amy,
I live near DFW.  The compressed ones are shark vertebrae centrums.
The two associated ones look Xiphactinus.
No way of telling what species of shark they came from though.  The
Eagle Ford group had some monster sharks. The biggest ones that come
from Texas are in that grouping. I am a pretty avid collector of
shark material, the largest vert I have is close to inches across.

#627 From: "Amy" <osmr2duck@...>
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:22 pm
Subject: help identify these vertibrate
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can anyone help me identify a few of my vertibrates ?
i have posted a picture of them on this sites "Photos". they are
listed as vertibrae. some helpful information on them -- they were
found in the Eagle Ford Shale in Southeastern Tarrant County, Texas.
   i hope someone can help, as i have collected quite a number of
awesome fossil bones from this location, most of which i have yet to
identify. i have identified a large portion of a jaw of xiphactinus
audax (a very large cretacious fish)
            any help will be appreciated !
                                               thanks ! Amy

#626 From: Donald Hoffman <prtarget2003@...>
Date: Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:43 am
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] email address required
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--- Michael Schmidt <dmschmidt@...> wrote:
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> If Gene Harstein is on this list, could he please
> email me privately please?
>
> thanks
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> Michael
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#625 From: "Michael Schmidt" <dmschmidt@...>
Date: Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:58 am
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Hi

If Gene Harstein is on this list, could he please email me privately please?

thanks

Michael

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#624 From: "Sam Gon III" <goniagnostus@...>
Date: Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:10 am
Subject: Thanks and reciprocal invitation
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I am new here in this large and diverse group, and look forward to
interesting fossil info. My particular interest is trilobites (and I
run a large educational site you may already be familiar with (link in
my signature). However, I enjoy amber, plant fossils, ammonites, small
fish fossils, fossil arthropods, and the occasional megalodon tooth! ;)

On a related note:
Many of you here are members also of the Yahoo Trilobite Group. If you
are, the you may have noticed that the original group for some reason
has recently disappeared entirely. I believe this is a tragedy, and in
discussing it with others, I was encouraged to restart the trilobite
group.

It has to start from scratch, I'm afraid, and I will need your help to
rebuild it. I invite you to join the new Trilobite group at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/trilobites2/

Please join and post messages and images related to trilobites. If you
were an old member, please rejoin the resurrected group. If you were
not a member, but have an interest in trilobites, you are very
welcome! With luck, the majority of the original members will find the
new group and settle in again, augmented by new members. Your help in
spreading the word will be appreciated!

Many thanks!

Sam [goniagnostus]
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#623 From: "ammonite_nut" <bkeller@...>
Date: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:45 pm
Subject: Rock Net Back Online
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Greetings Rockhounds,

I am pleased to announce that the Rock Net BBS style discussion forum
at Bob's Rock Shop is now back online after an extensive overhaul to
it's underlying CGI software and archives:

http://www.rockhounds.com/rocknet
or
http://rocknet.rockhounds.com

Trying to find a rockhound club near you? Looking for some hard to
find rough for your next lapidary project? Planning a collecting
vacation or the purchase of some equipment and want advice from
others who have been there, done that? Want to discuss your latest
find with other collectors of copper species micromounts or Elrathia
kingi trilobites? Do you enjoy sharing your knowledge and experience
with others, or encouraging and mentoring beginners and newcomers to
the rockhounding hobby? Then Rock Net is for you...

Rock Net uses a threaded discussion format to organize user messages
similar to dial-up BBS bulletin boards (remember them?) and Usenet
newsgroups. I have endeavored to create a user interface that's
simple and straightforward to use.

There are now over 20,000 keyword or pharse searchable Rock Net
messages stored in the archives. One of the major improvements
implemented with the recent software overhaul is a new, dedicated
search engine capable of drilling down into all the archived messages
with a single pass search.

I believe the finest resource I can provide for the rockhounding
community is connectivity and mechanisms facilitating interactive
communication. I believe that, because as a group, the Shop's users
share the collective curiosity, knowledge, experience, wit and wisdom
of many thousands of online rockhounds with interests spanning the
diverse facets of our hobby. I have also learned from my own Internet
experience and user feedback provided to me through Bob's Rock Shop
that what many users enjoy and value most are the empowering
opportunities the net provides for communicating and interacting with
their fellows.

Rock Net is an open use resource and any user who wishes to post a
non-commercial topical message is welcome to use it. I'm not one for
making rules, but policies and use guidelines will be established to
whatever extent necessary to maintain the quality of this forum.
Please consult the Rock Net FAQ and User Tips page periodically for
updates.

"See" you on Rock Net, and Keep on Rock'n!

Bob Keller
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#622 From: Rik Hill <rhill@...>
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:11 pm
Subject: another collecting site bites the dust
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Hi all,

I just received word this morning that one of the premier fossil
collecting areas near Kohl's Ranch, Payson, Arizona is to be closed.
It's an old abandon uranium quarry around which Pennsylvanian plant
fossils were found. A new mineral claim has bee put on the land.

This is a sad loss to amateur collectors.

-Rik

#621 From: healthstones
Date: Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:37 am
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#620 From: "Heidi Johnson" <qhbooks@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Digest Number 101
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>--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, "Wendell Ricketts" <uur@e...>
>wrote:
> > Dear Folks:
> >
> > As some of will recall, I recently posted a message offering "Free
>Fossils
> > To A Good Home!"
> >
> > I tried the same thing about a year and a half ago and got no
>responses.
> > This time, I was overwhelmed with responses, and don't have nearly
>enough
> > fossils to go to around.
> >
> > So I'm posting the list of folks who asked me for fossils in the
>hope that
> > some others of you will be motivated to give away some of your
>dupes and
> > less-than-perfect specimens in the interest of educating the next
>generation
> > of fossil enthusiasts!
> >
> > All best,
> >
> > Wendell Ricketts
> >
> > *************************************
> >
> > Heidi Johnson
> > Teaches 7-8th grade Earth Science lab + paleontology as an elective
> >
> > Lowell Junior High School
> > 100 Old Douglas Rd.
> > Bisbee, AZ 85603
> >

My school E-mail is:
hjohnson@...

You can also find me as:
paleoprofesora@...

Thanks for the plug,Wendall.  I use fossils I collect or scrounge for lab
work, display, and as incentive prizes in both classes. (Learn the geologic
time scale by heart, earn a trilobite, etc.) This year I have 4 year-long
sections of Earth Science and 1 section per semester of Paleontology (more
advanced students), so will have about 120 kids to "fossilize" this semster.
> >Heidi

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Hi Rik-I'm still down here in Cochise County pounding limestone...Heidi
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#619 From: Adam Melzak <melzak@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 8:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Re: who to leave it all to???
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, greatgazzoowizard wrote:

> Bureaucratic red tape!
>
> I would be happy to assist if I can.  I am not very knowledgeable on
> the subject yet but I am learning.  I have collected some fossils in
> Canada near my parents farm.  I have only been here in Texas a few
> months and have not done much by way of looking yet.
>

Where in Canada? (I have collected fossils in the 6 western provinces but
am always looking to learn more about sites info or just chat about
fossils hmmmmm fossssilllsssss)


Adam

PS As far as willing fossil collections, while smaller institutions will
come and go a large university will usually maintain a) a paleontologist
and b) a collection.  Of course even at a large uni space isnt infinite so
I guess to some extent it depends on how large a collection, degree of
rarity and whether the specimens belong to a group that the local
paleontologists study.  I suggest you talk to a paleontologist or
paleontological curator (at a prospective institution).  ALso the
suggestion of donating to high schools is good as long as you ARENT
donating large numbers of nice delicate rare specimens (which would tend
to get broken or grow wings).

#618 From: Rik Hill <rhill@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Texas Fossils.
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> I am in Plano just North of Dallas, TX.  I hope to get to
> Brownsville before the end of the summer.  My wife has a
> acquaintance who lives in that neck of the woods so to speak.
>
>

Lordy! You're in Gawd's Country for fossils. I am appending
a bunch of localities and directions for you. These are gleaned
from various lists over the last 10 years. Enjoy.

The highway, TX90, that goes from Marathon to Eagle's Nest
has roadcuts all along it that are chock-a-block full of
great fossils. I could spend two weeks just doing that highway
and the canyon where the Pacos River dumps into the Rio
Grande.

-Rik

=================================================================

The intricate directions for these sites are found in Rock and Gem,
Sept. 95 The simple directions are as follows. Find Lake Worth west
of city. Find dam that holds back lake. Find park that overlooks dam
(also known as Inspiration Point, aptly named I might add. Its easy
to imagine the sea 26 million years ago spreading out before you from
this site.) sorry it's a "nice" view. You will know you are in the
right spot. go over the cliff that overlooks the dam (steep bank you
don"t need ropes) but you will need buckets sacks and hired hands to
carry out your loot. It's found in the parking lot all the way down
to the dam. gullies, pathes, washes, all are littered or stuffed with
Cretaceous Stuff. The large Ammonites are the big draw. Be happy with
a big chunk if not a whole 2 foot beauty. Look closely in the parking
lot, we removed 20 from there using a prybar. Yeah, I know, what ever
happened to the dental tools and brushes. I tell ya these suckers are
big and were easily removed.

Going down, heart urchins,Hemiaster whitei, are abundant in the white
chalk, That's right chalk, as in White Cliffs of Dover. The urchins
are brownish and stick out like sore thumbs. Once you have found one
you best retrace your steps because you probably missed 20 laying on
the ground. There are easy pickins all the way down (the formation is
114 feet thick at this point) once you reach the dam the oysters
(Devils Toes are in layers 3 feet thick) can be loaded with a crane.
This site is amazing. It was 106 degrees and darkness is all that
stopped us. 14 different invertabrate marine fossils are easily
obtainable in an hour. That's what Rock and Gem said and we found it
to be understatement. OH, yeah by the way ANY road cut that's in the
area has the same stuff not to mention the stream beds, other dams
and especially


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Go north out of S.A. on TX281 heading for Johnson City. There are two
ring-roads that surround S.A. The inner one is a super-highway US410
the outer is Fm1604. All roadcuts north of the intersection of 281 &
1604 are fossiliferous. The best layers are buff to tan in color.
This is the Glen Rose Fm. and is abundantly rich. You WILL find
echinoids, particularly Selinia (an ornate sea urchin) and bivalves,
especially casts. You will not need tools other than a pick or
chopstick.The matrix is soft and easy to work out with a stick or
fingers and is thick with microfossils, perhaps the richest
microfossil exposure I have ever seen. The little "china-hats" only a
few millimeters across are the foram. Orbitolina. In only a few
minutes you will have a boxful of great stuff. If you are blessed by
the gods you may find a crab. I did once.

If it has been or is rainy it WILL be mucky. Wear boots because the
shale becomes a very sticky clay when wet.

Heading into Bryan, TX from the southwest on Tx 21 you will cross over
the Brazos River and the Little Brazos River. The banks are
abundantly fossiliferous with Eocene marine fossils including
gastropods, shark teeth, bivalves and such. I recommend the north
side of the Brazos. Just park by the bridge and walk down one of the
cement sluces to the river bank. Then walk under the railroad bridge
and begin looking in the darker (green-black) shales. The teeth are
hard to spot because they are the same color as the shale. This is
the Stone City Fm. just below the tan Mt. Cook Fm. The Mt. Cook Fm.
has the same fossils in a harder matrix. I have found complete
gastropods and shark's teeth here too.

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Back in the early 70's, when I was a grad student in geology at UT, I
used to take a tw0 lane road to Houston. I believe the road was
highway 78. At any rate, right around LaGrange, there was fantastic
collecting in a gully right off the road. I still have a palm stump
that goes around 45 lbs, along with other hardwood varieties that are
fabulous.

	 =====================================================

Some of the best sites in Austin have been covered up in the name of
flood control in the Shoal Creek watershed. I have recently collected
in the Cretaceous between Fort Worth and Chalk Mountain and found
some nice ammonites in the yellow limestone surrounding Lake
Benbrook. Two places in Austin come to mind: City Park Road, off of
Ranch Road 2222, just west of Loop 360 and the parking lot behind the
Toys R Us on Loop 360, just north of Ben White Blvd. The former is
limestone and the latter is fossiliferous shale.

	 =====================================================

Just a note to thank all who responded to my query for fossil
locations near San Antonio. We had a couple of hours one day to look
so my husband and I drove up rout 281 and stopped along roadcuts at
473, 46 and along farm road 306. At the 281- 473 site we found many
sternkerns of gastropods and clams and a couple of Pecten sp. Along
route 306 we found an ammonite tentatively Id'd as Acanthodiscus.
That was the best find of the day. Further along 306 we found a
roadcut that had many echinoids of which we have id'd Salenia.
Macraster and Hemaster. The echinoids are not preserved with much
detail except for the Salenia. There were many large gastropod and
clam casts and many round casts with small punctate spots all over
them - I presume they are echinoids with their tests weathered away -
Am I correct in that assumption? There were also many "china hats" (
Orbitolina). Along 281 just south of 46 was a large roadcut which had
a thin dark layer just a road level. In it were the compressed shells
of an oyster like creature. Both top and bottom shells were present.
They are deeply grooved and have many deep folds on the shell margin.
I want to place them in the Ostrea sp. but they are not quite like
them. Does anyone know the genus they are?.

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  In regards to collecting in West Texas, there are some very good road
cuts along I-10 5-9 miles east of the city of Kent. All of the
material is Early Cretaceous (Boracho Group). The preservation is
typical of what you would find in Central Texas (i.e.internal casts
of mollusks, original shell of oysters). A plus is some interesting
echinoids that I had not collected before in the central region. A
friend who told me about this site found an excellently preserved
Stereocidaris (very rare).

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If not too far east, there is a site in Western Louisiana at
Montgomery Landing on the Red River. Exposed are Upper Eocene
deposits (Yazoo Clay and Moodys Branch Fm.). Although I have never
been at this particular site, I have seen photos of large excellently
preserved gastropods from the Moodys Branch found there. Also a near
complete skeleton of a Zeuglodon whale was found several years ago in
the Yazoo. It can be reached by taking Rte 475 off of US 71 to
Montgomery, LA to the Creola Cemetary. The bluff is located on the
west side of the cemetary. A helpful reference, if you can find it,
is:

Montgomery Landing Site, Marine Eocene (Jackson) of central Louisiana,
Editors J.A. Schiebout and W. van den Bold, GCAGS, 1986.

	 =====================================================

> Next, try Lake Randell's shoreline on the east side of the lake.
> Most of the urchins are in the loose gravel along the edge of
> the lake.
>

While you are at Lake Randell, you can go down into the creek bed
below the spillway and find Gryphaea and other molluscs. There is a
narrow, steep trail you can use east of the dam.

	 =====================================================

From Marathon to Eagle Pass the road cuts are all full of goodies,
mostly Cretaceous invertebrates and microfossils. What I discovered on
this route was every roadcut is fossiliferous to some extent. At one
cut exactly a mile south of Comstock I collected about 20 lbs of rock
that was solid gastropods, at least four species. Since bringing that
home and subjecting it to the freeze-thaw method of reduction, I have
found the matrix to be nearly all microfossils. At a roadcut near
Alpine we got some sort of tubular fossil, possibly cephalopod, that
were filled with calcite crystals.

	 =====================================================

Mid- Upper Permian- Word Fm.- Glass Mts.- 1.5 miles N 55o west of old
Hess Ranch house, exposures of gray, highly calcareous quartz
sandstone (bivalves).

Haymond Fm.- Marathon, in nearby erratic block of limestone (whatever
that means)(crinoids).

Boquillas Fm.- N and S road and creek banks just E of Turinillo Creek
bridge in Big Bend National Park, about 4 miles W of Rio Grande
Village. "This location if for looking only; no collecting is
allowed" What a shame.

Pennsylvanian- Gaptank Fm.- Wolf Camp, just N of abandoned well of the
Wolf Camp ranch house, shale slope in saddle on N side of prominent
hill (crinoids). ? US 385 15 miles S of Persimmon Gap-
purple-white-gray-tan shales and sandstones (don't know what's
supposed to be found there, and i think it's also on park land).


	 =====================================================

Try the overflow spillway at Lake Lewisville (just to the North of
Plano off HWY 121). This is the Eagle Ford Shale, Cretaceous. You can
find crabs, shrimp, ammonites, shark teeth and scaphopods.

An hour away to the East is Ladonia, Texas. Here you will have access
to the North Sulpher River. Look for Mosasaur & fish verts.

	 =====================================================

As you head west from Houston, Texas you can make a small detour on
Hwy. 36 at Sealy, Texas exit and head south to Damon, Texas. On the
west side of the road before you enter the town (not much of a town)
there is a turn off on an old dirt road that leads a few hundred
yards to an old abandoned pit called the Damon Mound. It is dug
directly on top of a salt dome and is the highest feature in the
area. In the pit you will see exposed the Pleistocene age Beaumont
Clay, good for Pleistocene vertebrates. At the bottom of the pit an
Oligocene reef is exposed that is full of fossils. A very unusual
deposit for Texas.

	 =====================================================

For further information, especially on the fossils in the Lake Texoma
area see:
http://www.savvycenter.com/explorer/educational/geologyvideos.htm

	 =====================================================

...and since you now live in TX you need these in your library:


  TITLE        Texas Cretaceous bivalves and localities.
  OTHER AUTH   Offeman, Irene D.
  SERIES       Texas paleontology series ; publication no. 2.
  PUBLISHER    [Houston] : Paleontology Section of the Houston Gem and
Mineral
                 Society, 1982.
  SUBJECTS     Bivalvia, Fossil --Texas.
               Paleontology --Cretaceous.
               Paleontology --Texas.
  NOTE         Includes indexes.


  TITLE        Texas Cretaceous ammonites and nautiloids.
  OTHER AUTH   Emerson, Barbara L.
  SERIES       Texas paleontology series ; publication no. 5.
  PUBLISHER    Houston, Tex : Paleontology Section, Houston Gem and
Mineral
                 Society, 1994.
  SUBJECTS     Ammonoidea --Texas.
               Nautiloidea, Fossil --Texas.
               Paleontology --Cretaceous.
               Animals, Fossil --Texas.


  AUTHOR       Akers, Rosemary E.
  TITLE        Texas Cretaceous echinoids.
  OTHER AUTH   Akers, Thomas J.
  SERIES       Texas paleontology series ; publication no. 3.
  PUBLISHER    [Houston, TX] : Paleontology Section, Houston Gem and
Mineral
                 Society, 1987.
  SUBJECTS     Echinodermata, Fossil --Texas.
               Paleontology --Cretaceous.
               Paleontology --Texas.


  AUTHOR       Frizzell, Donald Leslie, 1906-
  TITLE        Handbook of Cretaceous Foraminifera of Texas,
  SERIES       Report of investigations (University of Texas. Bureau of
Economic
                 Geology) ; no. 22.
  PUBLISHER    Austin, The University Press, 1954.
  SUBJECTS     Foraminifera, Fossil.
               Paleontology --Cretaceous.
               Paleontology --Texas.


TITLE        Fossils & localities of the Claiborne group (Eocene) of
Texas : a
                 symposium conducted at Brazosport Museum of Natural
Science.
  OTHER AUTH   Knight, James E.
               Offeman, Irene D.
               Landry, Ruth M.
  SERIES       Texas paleontology series ; publications no. 1.
  PUBLISHER    [Houston] : Paleontology Section of the Houston Gem and
Mineral
                 Society, 1977.
  SUBJECTS     Paleontology --Eocene --Congresses.



  AUTHOR       Seltin, Richard J., 1927-
  TITLE        New vertebrate fossil localities in the Vale formation
(Lower
                 Permian) of north-central Texas.
  SERIES       Publications of the Museum, Michigan State University.
Biological
                 series, v.1, no.7.
  PUBLISHER    East Lansing [Mich.] 1959.
  SUBJECTS     Vertebrates, Fossil.
               Paleontology --Permian.
               Paleontology --Texas.
  NOTE         Includes bibliography.
  DESCRIPTION  262-268 p. illus. 25 cm.

#617 From: "greatgazzoowizard" <greatgazzoo@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 7:36 pm
Subject: [Fossil Sites] Re: who to leave it all to???
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Bureaucratic red tape!

I would be happy to assist if I can.  I am not very knowledgeable on
the subject yet but I am learning.  I have collected some fossils in
Canada near my parents farm.  I have only been here in Texas a few
months and have not done much by way of looking yet.

--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, Rik Hill <rhill@l...> wrote:
>
> I was going to will my collection to one or several science
> institutes. Then two changed hands, fired their paleontologists
> stopped all fossil research and no one knows what happened to the
> collections. The other college I was considering dumped a large
> amount of uncatalogued fossils in an alley in a pile! It was then
> that I decided that in light of this and new laws (more being
passed
> every year) that restrict fossil collecting, I will have my
> collection given away to kids and amateur collectors to inspire
> a new generation. I am in the process of deciding how best to do
> this. I may do it mostly myself before I go to the big quarry in
> the sky.
>
> -Rik
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:43, greatgazzoowizard wrote:
> > If you don't have any family members who would keep the
> > 'collection' as a whole then find local college or even high
> > schools that would be interested in keeping them.  I am certain
you
> > will find many happy would be recipients for your findings.
> >
> >
> > --- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, "Wendell Ricketts" <uur@e...>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Recent messages on this list, and my own turn of mind lately,
> > > have
> >
> > made me
> >
> > > wonder what *would* happen to my fossil collection after I pass.
> > >
> > > So I'm asking for suggestions. Any ideas re:
> >
> > universities/individuals to
> >
> > > contact in case they might want it? Any experience in
approaching
> > > institutions/museums to propose this kind of bequest?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Wendell Ricketts
> > >
> > >
> > >

#616 From: Rik Hill <rhill@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Re: who to leave it all to???
rikhill
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I was going to will my collection to one or several science
institutes. Then two changed hands, fired their paleontologists
stopped all fossil research and no one knows what happened to the
collections. The other college I was considering dumped a large
amount of uncatalogued fossils in an alley in a pile! It was then
that I decided that in light of this and new laws (more being passed
every year) that restrict fossil collecting, I will have my
collection given away to kids and amateur collectors to inspire
a new generation. I am in the process of deciding how best to do
this. I may do it mostly myself before I go to the big quarry in
the sky.

-Rik



On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:43, greatgazzoowizard wrote:
> If you don't have any family members who would keep the
> 'collection' as a whole then find local college or even high
> schools that would be interested in keeping them.  I am certain you
> will find many happy would be recipients for your findings.
>
>
> --- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, "Wendell Ricketts" <uur@e...>
>
> wrote:
> > Recent messages on this list, and my own turn of mind lately,
> > have
>
> made me
>
> > wonder what *would* happen to my fossil collection after I pass.
> >
> > So I'm asking for suggestions. Any ideas re:
>
> universities/individuals to
>
> > contact in case they might want it? Any experience in approaching
> > institutions/museums to propose this kind of bequest?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Wendell Ricketts
> >
> >
> >

#615 From: "greatgazzoowizard" <greatgazzoo@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Fossils.
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--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, Rik Hill <rhill@l...> wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:38, greatgazzoowizard wrote:
> > You stated that some of your fossils were from Texas.  May I ask
> > what areas of Texas and favorite hunting grounds.  I moved to
Texas
> > in January 2003 and would love the opportunity to look around for
> > some fossils.
> >
> >
> >
>
> If you don't mind me chiming in on this one (BTW - Hi Heidi!) I
have
> collected in numerous places in TX. Since it's a big place, where
are
> you located? I have gotten great stuff from Kent (near Van Horn) to
> Houston and Brownsville. It's a great state for fossil fanatics.
>
> Did you know there's a special yahoogroup for
> texasgeology@yahoogroups.com ? It's well worth joining. Not much
> traffic but when there is it's interesting.
>
> -Rik

I am in Plano just North of Dallas, TX.  I hope to get to Brownsville
before the end of the summer.  My wife has a acquaintance who lives
in that neck of the woods so to speak.

#614 From: Rik Hill <rhill@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Fossils.
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On Wednesday 06 August 2003 11:38, greatgazzoowizard wrote:
> You stated that some of your fossils were from Texas.  May I ask
> what areas of Texas and favorite hunting grounds.  I moved to Texas
> in January 2003 and would love the opportunity to look around for
> some fossils.
>
>
>

If you don't mind me chiming in on this one (BTW - Hi Heidi!) I have
collected in numerous places in TX. Since it's a big place, where are
you located? I have gotten great stuff from Kent (near Van Horn) to
Houston and Brownsville. It's a great state for fossil fanatics.

Did you know there's a special yahoogroup for
texasgeology@yahoogroups.com ? It's well worth joining. Not much
traffic but when there is it's interesting.

-Rik

#613 From: "greatgazzoowizard" <greatgazzoo@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: who to leave it all to???
greatgazzoow...
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If you don't have any family members who would keep the 'collection'
as a whole then find local college or even high schools that would be
interested in keeping them.  I am certain you will find many happy
would be recipients for your findings.


--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, "Wendell Ricketts" <uur@e...>
wrote:
> Recent messages on this list, and my own turn of mind lately, have
made me
> wonder what *would* happen to my fossil collection after I pass.
>
> So I'm asking for suggestions. Any ideas re:
universities/individuals to
> contact in case they might want it? Any experience in approaching
> institutions/museums to propose this kind of bequest?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Wendell Ricketts
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#612 From: "greatgazzoowizard" <greatgazzoo@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 6:38 pm
Subject: Fossils.
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You stated that some of your fossils were from Texas.  May I ask what
areas of Texas and favorite hunting grounds.  I moved to Texas in
January 2003 and would love the opportunity to look around for some
fossils.



--- In fossilsites@yahoogroups.com, "Wendell Ricketts" <uur@e...>
wrote:
> Dear Folks:
>
> As some of will recall, I recently posted a message offering "Free
Fossils
> To A Good Home!"
>
> I tried the same thing about a year and a half ago and got no
responses.
> This time, I was overwhelmed with responses, and don't have nearly
enough
> fossils to go to around.
>
> So I'm posting the list of folks who asked me for fossils in the
hope that
> some others of you will be motivated to give away some of your
dupes and
> less-than-perfect specimens in the interest of educating the next
generation
> of fossil enthusiasts!
>
> All best,
>
> Wendell Ricketts
>
> *************************************
>
> Heidi Johnson
> Teaches 7-8th grade Earth Science lab + paleontology as an elective
>
> Lowell Junior High School
> 100 Old Douglas Rd.
> Bisbee, AZ 85603
> [no private email; respond via fossilinvertebrates@yahoogroups.com]
>
>
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
>
>
> Gary Holloway
> Science teacher in Windsor, 50 km west of Sydney, NSW, Australia.
Does quite
> a bit of basic palaeontology with his kids. Because sending checks
for
> reimbursement from Australia is costly, would trade for local
Permian
> fossils instead. Esp. looking for Paleozoic and Pliocene fossils.
>
> Oakville Public School
> 135 Oakville Rd
> Oakville NSW 2765
> Australia
> holloway_gary@y...
>
>
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
>
>
> Cheryl.
>
> Teaches 8th grade and has students who want to do fossils as a 4-H
project.
>
> mflor00@h...
>
>
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
>
>
> Tom Langdale
>
> Teaches 60 deaf students in a basic education program. Trying to
develop a
> science corner at his school to stimulate interest in the earth
sciences.
>
> 5500 Cedar Street
>
> Riverside, California 92509
>
> soaringeagle6@y...
>
>
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
>
>
> Karen.
>
> In Texas, looking for donations of fossils.
> Neraksnikl@a...
>
>
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
>
>
> Jeff Taylor.
>
> Would like fossils for his church, which has a group that collects
and
> studies fossils.
>
> tenten47112@y...
>
>
>
>
>
> ********************************
>
>
>
> Richard "Rik" Hill
>
> Looking for fossils to go with the talks he gives to elementary and
middle
> school classes on astronomy and fossils (see website at
> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~rhill).
>
> Sr. Research Spec.
>
> Catalina Sky Survey
>
> LUNAR & PLANETARY  LAB.
>
> Kuiper Space Sci. Bldg.
>
> 1629 E. University
>
> Univ. of Arizona
>
> Tucson, Az 85721-0092
>
> (520) 621-4077
>
> rhill@l...
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#611 From: Tom Langdale <soaringeagle6@...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 12:25 am
Subject: Re: [Fossil Sites] Fantastic Lebanese Pycnodonts
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Hello Michael, thank you for your offer and I'm sure it would make me very happy
to have such wonderful fossil fish, however I can't afford those specimens at
this time  and I am really more interested in a stingray. Please keep me in mind
and I do appreciate your e-mails.
Sincerely
Tom Langdale

Michael Schmidt <dmschmidt@...> wrote:
Hi

I just received a couple of VERY nice Lebanese Cretaceous pycnodonts. Both of
these are GREAT fish.  If you are interested in seeing photos, please let me
know and I will email them off to you.  Some discounts may be available for
resale customers.

thanks

Michael

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Pycnodont 03:
Paleobalistum sp.?
Matrix Size: 18.5cm by 19cm,
Fish Size: 16cm

A smaller fish than #2, but a lot rarer as well.  In both positive and negative
aspect, the fish shows great preservation.  Wonderful fins and a few teeth.

$2400


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Paleobalistum 02:

Matrix Size: 27cm by 29cm

Fish Size: 24cm



This is about as good as it gets for this fish. First off, it's in positive and
negative aspect, with no restoration.  Second, it is a great size, almost 1 foot
long....Thirdly, the preservation is phenomenal- the fins are great, there are
lots of teeth......what more could you want?  This is the best of this type I
have seen.



$2300





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