--- In conculture@yahoogroups.com, Padraic Brown <elemtilas@y...>
wrote:
> Anyone try to access the IB (or any other Frath)
> Wiki lately? Is it undergoing maintenance or has
> it been absorbed into the pleroma?

Our hosting service was affected by the power outages that struck L.A.
this afternoon.

( http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/la.power.outage/index.html )

The latest from them is:

"Serious electricity problems in the Los Angeles area took our entire
network off-line for a few hours. Service is currently being restored.

Power to our data center has now been restored and our network is back
up. Our servers and equipment are being powered on gradually to avoid
potentially damaging power spikes. Barring any complications, your
websites and email will be fully operational again very soon."

This is an incomplete answer so far -- actually, as far as the
_languages_ go, its barely a beginning -- but you can look at the
following recently added URLs;

http://wiki.frath.net/User:Eldin_raigmore
http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Adpihi
http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Reptigan
http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Adpihi
http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Reptigan

-----

eldin

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "eldin_raigmore" <eldin_raigmore@...>
wrote:
> This is an incomplete answer so far -- actually, as far as the
> _languages_ go, its barely a beginning -- but you can look at the
> following recently added URLs;
>
> http://wiki.frath.net/User:Eldin_raigmore
> http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Adpihi
> http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Reptigan
> http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Adpihi
> http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Reptigan

I recently added information about the phonology.
I began discussing:
- the consonant inventory
- the syllable structure
- the phonotactics.

Still to come; vowels.

Dear Muketurtle:
There appears to be no way a user of Frathwiki can report a problem.
If there is such a way, it is not referred to by any "Help" page.

-----

The Kilda Kelen or Neo-Khitanese "Talk:" page has been re-directed to
the "League of Lost Languages" page.  There is no way to add "Talk:"
about Kilda Kelen.  If one tries, it is not even misplaced as "Talk:"
about the LLL; instead it merely disappears into the bit-bucket.

Web host's verdict:

   << There currently is an issue with a blade in one of the core
routers and it is being replaced, so the servers are still
unreachable until this issue is corrected. >>

<http://dreamhoststatus.com/>

Hopefully this won't take long.
Assuming it is back up by this evening, IBWiki will be locked and go
down [hopefully only briefly] while we get it upgraded to 1.9.2.


	 *Muke!

The backup file for IB Wiki hasn't been put here for a while because
it has become too large to post on this group (Y! imposes a 5MB
limit).

Backups for both sites will now be available at:
http://frath.net/backups/

Muke

Who is HwkX8x and why does he keep filling up Senjecan's page with
links to spam for drugs?  Can't you stop him? (or more probably "it"
or "them" than "him")

HwkX8x is a spam-vandal who has never contributed anything but spam.
He should be banned.
Why is he filling up Senjecan with spam?

eldin_raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
> Who is HwkX8x and why does he keep filling up Senjecan's page with
> links to spam for drugs?

All usernames of the pattern [A-Z][a-z0-9][a-z0-9][A-Z][a-z0-9][a-z0-9]
belong to a persistent spambot.  (Anonymous editing is disabled on FrathWiki
so the bots are configured to create accounts before spamming.  On more open
wikis they would just spam anonymously.  That it is a bot is pretty much
certain, due to some quirks in how it processes text.)

> Can't you stop him? (or more probably "it" or "them" than "him")

A username blacklist has been put into effect for the pattern of names
generated by this bot, so it can create no more usernames unless
it changes its pattern.  However the accounts from the latest batch
were created before the blacklist was put into effect; they have been
lurking.

and:
> HwkX8x is a spam-vandal who has never contributed anything but spam.He should
be banned.

The account has been banned infinitely, as have the others contributing
to the latest batch of spam.

> Why is he filling up Senjecan with spam?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkspam


	 *Muke!
--
website:     http://frath.net/

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "Muke Tever" <muke@...> wrote:
>
> eldin_raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
> > Who is HwkX8x and why does he keep filling up Senjecan's page with
> > links to spam for drugs?
>
> All usernames of the pattern [A-Z][a-z0-9][a-z0-9][A-Z][a-z0-9][a-z0-9]
> belong to a persistent spambot.  (Anonymous editing is disabled on
FrathWiki
> so the bots are configured to create accounts before spamming.  On
more open
> wikis they would just spam anonymously.  That it is a bot is pretty much
> certain, due to some quirks in how it processes text.)
>
> > Can't you stop him? (or more probably "it" or "them" than "him")
>
> A username blacklist has been put into effect for the pattern of names
> generated by this bot, so it can create no more usernames unless
> it changes its pattern.  However the accounts from the latest batch
> were created before the blacklist was put into effect; they have been
> lurking.
>
> and:
> > HwkX8x is a spam-vandal who has never contributed anything but
spam.He should be banned.
>
> The account has been banned infinitely, as have the others contributing
> to the latest batch of spam.
>
> > Why is he filling up Senjecan with spam?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkspam
>
>
>  *Muke!
> --
> website:     http://frath.net/
>

That is horrible! I hope something can be done to put a permanent stop
to this.

> Why is he filling up Senjecan with spam?

Uh cause he's a jerk. Sorry to hear what happened to your page. You
should have it protected so only you can post things on there. I hate
spam!

Hi there

I'm new here, so please excuse a dumb question. On the Frathwiki editing page,
I don't seem to be able to find eng (the n with a leftward-turned-in hook on
the right side). Can someone give me an idea of the general area it's in?

TVMIA

Jeff

PS Or take a look at my new lang: http://wiki.frath.net/Velyan
--
"Please understand that there are small
European principalities devoted to debating
Tcl vs. Perl as a tourist attraction."

                             -- Cameron Laird

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> I'm new here, so please excuse a dumb question. On the Frathwiki
editing page,
> I don't seem to be able to find eng (the n with a leftward-turned-in
hook on
> the right side). Can someone give me an idea of the general area
it's in?
>
> TVMIA
>
> Jeff
>
> PS Or take a look at my new lang: http://wiki.frath.net/Velyan
> --
> "Please understand that there are small
> European principalities devoted to debating
> Tcl vs. Perl as a tourist attraction."
>
>                             -- Cameron Laird
>

I like your language alot! Does it have a script?

In the last episode, (On Saturday 07 July 2007 22:32:47), Brittanie wrote:
> --- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...> wrote:
> > Hi there
> >
> > I'm new here, so please excuse a dumb question. On the Frathwiki
>
> editing page,
>
> > I don't seem to be able to find eng (the n with a leftward-turned-in
>
> hook on
>
> > the right side). Can someone give me an idea of the general area
>
> it's in?
>

Found it. The font I was using decided to display it identically to 'n'. I've
now changed the font, and a lurker gave me a hand to change the étas which I
had been using to engs.

> > PS Or take a look at my new lang: http://wiki.frath.net/Velyan
> > --
> > "Please understand that there are small
> > European principalities devoted to debating
> > Tcl vs. Perl as a tourist attraction."
> >
> >                             -- Cameron Laird
>
> I like your language alot! Does it have a script?

Thankyou! Unfortunately not at the moment :-/

Jeff
--
"Please understand that there are small
European principalities devoted to debating
Tcl vs. Perl as a tourist attraction."

                             -- Cameron Laird

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> I'm new here, so please excuse a dumb question. On the Frathwiki
editing page,
> I don't seem to be able to find eng (the n with a leftward-turned-
in hook on
> the right side). Can someone give me an idea of the general area
it's in?
>
> TVMIA
>
> Jeff
>
> PS Or take a look at my new lang: http://wiki.frath.net/Velyan
> --
> "Please understand that there are small
> European principalities devoted to debating
> Tcl vs. Perl as a tourist attraction."
>
>                             -- Cameron Laird
>

ɧɱ©¯ɳɲ
are all there;
n with a left hook on the left leg,
n with a right hook on the right leg,
n with a left hook on the right leg (a.k.a. eng).


Start editing your page and go down to "special
character insertion" just below the new-text frame.

Look at the top "IPA" row, just to the right of its
middle.
The symbol you've used ƞ is not in the top row;
it's far to the right in the fourth "Latin" row.

But there's an "eng" in the Latin too: look in the
third row just about a quarter to a third from the
right.  You have both an uppercase ¨¯ and a
lowercase ©¯ there.

Maybe I shouldn't have, but since you were having
trouble, I made some minor edits to your frathwiki
page in which I changed either an n or an eta to an
eng.
If you don't like that you can change it back; or if
you don't want to change it but you still wish I
hadn't done it, (1) I apologize and (2) you can tell
me so.

I like the page, btw.

Member Yahoo! ID  Email Delivery  Joined
erika-haven470@...
  Send Message
-name- -age- -gender-
-location-  (Not Available)  erika-haven470@...  Sep 12, 2007
josalyne-overfelt579@...
  Send Message
-name- -age- -gender-
-location-  (Not Available)  josalyne-overfelt579@...
[Bouncing]  Aug 5, 2007

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "eldin_raigmore"
<eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
>
> Member Yahoo! ID  Email Delivery  Joined
> erika-haven470@
>  Send Message
> -name- -age- -gender-
> -location-  (Not Available)  erika-haven470@  Sep 12, 2007
> josalyne-overfelt579@
>  Send Message
> -name- -age- -gender-
> -location-  (Not Available)  josalyne-overfelt579@
> [Bouncing]  Aug 5, 2007
>

What does "bouncing" mean in this message? And I think remember
getting a message from josalyne. It was spam though....think it was
something about "biker chicks".

Brittanie <wapogipo928@...> wrote:
> --- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "eldin_raigmore"
> <eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
>> -location-  (Not Available)  josalyne-overfelt579@
>> [Bouncing]  Aug 5, 2007
>>
> What does "bouncing" mean in this message? And I think remember
> getting a message from josalyne. It was spam though....think it was
> something about "biker chicks".

"bouncing" means that when Yahoo! tries to send them the messages from the
list, the server they've stated their email address is on tells them there's
no such address and sends the message back.


	 *Muke!
--
website:     http://frath.net/

eldin_raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
> Member Yahoo! ID  Email Delivery  Joined
> erika-haven470@...
>  Send Message
> -name- -age- -gender-
> -location-  (Not Available)  erika-haven470@...  Sep 12, 2007
> josalyne-overfelt579@...
>  Send Message
> -name- -age- -gender-
> -location-  (Not Available)  josalyne-overfelt579@...
> [Bouncing]  Aug 5, 2007

I've removed their memberships.  Also, you catch a lot of these, so
I've given you the moderator ability to do so yourself in the future.



	 *Muke!
--
website:     http://frath.net/

Brittanie <wapogipo928@...> wrote:
> And I think remember getting a message from josalyne.It was spam
though....think it was something about "biker chicks".

You can tell by googling that that person has sent spam to several
other groups.  This group auto-moderates new message submissions (until
the poster gets whitelisted) so spam doesn't make it in, though.


--
website:     http://frath.net/

Awwwwwww I'm honored! Could you tell me how to do it first? :P

♥Brittanie♥

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "Muke Tever" <muke@...> wrote:
>
> eldin_raigmore eldin_raigmore@... wrote:
> > Member Yahoo! ID  Email Delivery  Joined
> > erika-haven470@
> >  Send Message
> > -name- -age- -gender-
> > -location-  (Not Available)  erika-haven470@  Sep 12, 2007
> > josalyne-overfelt579@
> >  Send Message
> > -name- -age- -gender-
> > -location-  (Not Available)  josalyne-overfelt579@
> > [Bouncing]  Aug 5, 2007
>
> I've removed their memberships.  Also, you catch a lot of these, so
> I've given you the moderator ability to do so yourself in the future.
>
>
>
>  *Muke!
> --
> website:     http://frath.net/
>

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "Muke Tever" <muke@...> wrote:
>
> Brittanie <wapogipo928@...> wrote:
> > --- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "eldin_raigmore"
> > <eldin_raigmore@> wrote:
> >> -location-  (Not Available)  josalyne-overfelt579@
> >> [Bouncing]  Aug 5, 2007
> >>
> > What does "bouncing" mean in this message? And I think remember
> > getting a message from josalyne. It was spam though....think it was
> > something about "biker chicks".
>
> "bouncing" means that when Yahoo! tries to send them the messages
from the
> list, the server they've stated their email address is on tells them
there's
> no such address and sends the message back.
>
>
>  *Muke!
> --
> website:     http://frath.net/
>

Oh WOW! What a weird coincidence because when I tried replying to
messages via email the exact same thing would happen to me so I would
just reply on the webpage.

♥Brittanie♥

Brittanie <wapogipo928@...> wrote:
>> The poster gets whitelisted.
>
> What exactly does that mean?

A whitelist is the opposite of a blacklist; basically the idea is
that you can indicate that a person's contributions are expected to be
acceptable (so the moderation process won't detain them).


	 *Muke!
--
website:     http://frath.net/

Brittanie <wapogipo928@...> wrote:
>> eldin_raigmore eldin_raigmore@... wrote:
>> > Member Yahoo! ID  Email Delivery  Joined
>>
>> I've removed their memberships.  Also, you catch a lot of these, so
>> I've given you the moderator ability to do so yourself in the future.
>
> Awwwwwww I'm honored! Could you tell me how to do it first? :P

Sorry, that was in reply to eldin_raigmore.


	 *Muke!
--
website:     http://frath.net/

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "Muke Tever" <muke@...> wrote:
>
> Brittanie <wapogipo928@...> wrote:
> >> The poster gets whitelisted.
> >
> > What exactly does that mean?
>
> A whitelist is the opposite of a blacklist; basically the idea is
> that you can indicate that a person's contributions are expected to be
> acceptable (so the moderation process won't detain them).
>
>
>  *Muke!
> --
> website:     http://frath.net/
>

Thanks!

Oh sorry.
--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "Muke Tever" <muke@...> wrote:
>
> Brittanie wapogipo928@... wrote:
> >> eldin_raigmore eldin_raigmore@ wrote:
> >> > Member Yahoo! ID  Email Delivery  Joined
> >>
> >> I've removed their memberships.  Also, you catch a lot of these, so
> >> I've given you the moderator ability to do so yourself in the
future.
> >
> > Awwwwwww I'm honored! Could you tell me how to do it first? :P
>
> Sorry, that was in reply to eldin_raigmore.
>
>
>  *Muke!
> --
> website:     http://frath.net/
>

Hi,
I just put up brief descriptions of a couple more of my conlangs (I'd
already put another one up earlier). My user page is qiihoskeh. I have
a couple questions.
1) I have one of them in Category:Romance conlangs. Should I also put
it in the higher categories as well (Indoeuropean, and A posteriori
conlangs, I think)? It seems some wikis don't like that sort of thing.
2) If so, how do I list multiple categories? I looked through the
linked help pages.
Thanks.

Jeff

---In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "jsjonesmiami" <jsjonesmiami@...>
>wrote:
>Hi, I just put up brief descriptions of a couple more of my conlangs
>(I'd already put another one up earlier). My user page is qiihoskeh.
I liked it.
>I have a couple questions.
>1) I have one of them in Category:Romance conlangs. Should I also
put
>it in the higher categories as well (Indoeuropean, and A posteriori
>conlangs, I think)? It seems some wikis don't like that sort of
thing.

I don't know.

>2) If so, how do I list multiple categories? I looked through the
>linked help pages.

I've done that; I had no trouble.  What's the problem?

>Thanks.

Obviously I haven't helped yet.  But look at "adpihi" and "reptigan"
and see what their categories look like (in source); that might give
you a hint.

--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "eldin_raigmore"
<eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
>
> ---In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "jsjonesmiami" <jsjonesmiami@>
> > wrote:
> > Hi, I just put up brief descriptions of a couple more of my
> > conlangs (I'd already put another one up earlier). My user page
> > is qiihoskeh.
>
> I liked it.

Thanks.

> > I have a couple questions.
> > 1) I have one of them in Category:Romance conlangs. Should I also
> > put it in the higher categories as well (Indoeuropean, and A
> > posteriori conlangs, I think)? It seems some wikis don't like
> > that sort of thing.
>
> I don't know.
>
> > 2) If so, how do I list multiple categories? I looked through the
> > linked help pages.
>
> I've done that; I had no trouble.  What's the problem?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> Obviously I haven't helped yet.  But look at "adpihi" and
> "reptigan" and see what their categories look like (in source);
> that might give you a hint.

I just looked. None of your pages are in categories as far as I can
tell. How do I look at the source?

---In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "jsjonesmiami" <jsjonesmiami@...>
>wrote:
>--- In frathwiki@yahoogroups.com, "eldin_raigmore"
><eldin_raigmore@> wrote:
> > Obviously I haven't helped yet.  But look at "adpihi" and
> > "reptigan" and see what their categories look like (in source);
> > that might give you a hint.
>
> I just looked. None of your pages are in categories as far as I can
> tell.

As far as frathwiki goes, you're right.  Sorry about that.

> How do I look at the source?

< http://conlang.wikia.com/index.php?title=Adpihi&action=edit >
< http://conlang.wikia.com/index.php?title=Reptigan&action=edit >
show only one Category, so they're no help.

But
< http://conworld.wikia.com/index.php?title=Adpihi&action=edit >
shows, at the bottom,

[[Category:Religion of Adpihi]]

[[Category:Geography of the Planet Adpihi]]

[[Category:History of the Planet Adpihi]]

------

Also

< http://conworld.wikia.com/\
index.php?title=Reptigan_Union&action=edit >
shows, at the bottom,

[[Category:Culture of the People of Adpihi]]

[[Category:History of the Planet Adpihi]]

[[Category:Reptigan]]

[[Category:Species and Member Systems of the Reptigan Union]]

.

---------

So it looks like all you need to do is have a different "category"
line for each category. Like so:

[[Category:A]]
[[Category:B]]
[[Category:C]]
[[Category:X]]
[[Category:Y]]
[[Category:Z]]