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Re: [free_energy] fuelless heater

A fellow (Named Mark Cherry) just South of me in Idaho is experimenting
with 'smart plugs'. Actually building his own.

I saw them running a vehicle on the road. NO secondary ignition system
and not much of a primary one either. All 12 volt DC.

The plugs are pre-heated with electricity and the engine compression
finishes the heat needed to ignite the fuel mixture that has been
compressed into the plug. The resulting 'plasma' fires into the
combustion chamber to ignite the main mixture.

Can run with high mixtures of water.

> I am aware of Fuelless.com and Rick Harrison's information on
>the "fuelless heater". There is ample information available without
>the need to pay $40 for his plans. One is the US patent office
>website. There are several patents on this type of heat generation,
>the latest being December 2000. It appears most of the recent patents
>were taken from one granted in 1977 (1979?) and modified/improved on
>to one degree or another.
> We built a small prototype and easily attained 330 deg F., but had
>to stop because it was close to reaching the flashpoint of the oil we
>were using.
> There is nothing mystical or "new form of energy" about this
>device. It is simply a heat generating device using friction and
>velocity. Rick Harrison's description leaves one with the impression
>it's a mini nuclear device, and if you think about it, it he's not
>too far off base, only stretching it a bit lol.....
> Based on the patents we found, and from experimenting with
>variations thereof, we have built a full size unit and will be
>testing it shortly. We have no doubt reaching 400 degrees is
>attainable. Our purpose for doing this is not to prove or disprove
>it's ability to create enormous amounts of heat; we've already shown
>it will. The larger question is, and our goal, to determine if
>this "fuelless heater" can generate heat in sufficient amounts and do
>so more economically than conventional type heating units (gas, wood,
>propane, electric etc.). Calling it "free energy" may be a stretch,
>but if you can generate your own power to run a 5-7 amp electric
>motor, the possibility of calling it "free" may be closer to reality
>than critics will admit.
> If in fact a 1/2-3/4 horsepower motor can be used to power one of
>these units and achieve the btu's required, then it will be
>successful. I know for my home I can heat my house with 15,000 btu
>using an unvented gas brick heater in all but the coldest of weather.
>One patent claims the ability to attain 30,000 btu using this type of
>heat generation. Now, do the math if you know how much it costs to
>run a 1/2 hp motor 24/7 at 5 amps CD. It's not that much. Here in my
>state, the cost per kW hour is around .08 I believe (not positive).
>It works out to about a maximum of $30/month......a whole lot less
>than heating my home with propane, which last year was astronomical.
> So, with all due respect, is there anyone that has shown
>the "fuelless heater" to be a fraud in it's purest sense? I have yet
>to find one person to say either way by producing evidence the best
>way......trying it! If anyone is interested, I will update as we
>gather data.
> One thing is certain in my mind. The experience I've had in
>medicine, knowing the politics involved and the ego trips the medical
>elitists are on, it wouldn't surprise me if energy is any different.
> Which reminds me. Is anyone familiar with plasma torch ignition?
>AKA "Smart Plug"? Up to 50% increase in fuel mileage, 95% decrease in
>emissions, allows a standard gasoline engine to run on five different
>fuels, and requires no electronics to operate (plug wires, ignition
>controls other than FI)? I have the SAE documents and newsletters
>that I received for a year or two before it seemed to disappear.
>http://www.unisonindustries.com/press_plasma.html is the basic
>technology and NOT what I'm referring to, however the Smart Plug was
>developed so a timing mechanism (no moving parts) could be employed
>to allow use in an automotive engine. If anyone has recent
>information concerning Smart Plug technology, please email me.
> How about the Atomizer 2000? Not on the EPA poop list as far as I
>can tell. One man I spoke with in my area said it definitely will
>increase fuel mileage by an average of 40%, much higher in carburated
>engines. Just wondering.
>
> Thanks.
> Yes, I know just because a device is patented, does not necessarily
>mean it works.....
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I am aware of Fuelless.com and Rick Harrison's information on the "fuelless heater". There is ample information available without the need to pay $40 for his...
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... Chuck a piece of welding rod into an electric hand drill, spin it up and press it into a piece of steel like you're trying to drill it. The welding rod...
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... Evidently, this company http://www.hydrodynamics.com/index.html does not feel the same about Griggs. If I'm not mistaken, this device is based on his ...
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A fellow (Named Mark Cherry) just South of me in Idaho is experimenting with 'smart plugs'. Actually building his own. I saw them running a vehicle on the...
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Jul 24, 2001
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We are nearing the time to test our full size fuelless heater. We will be running it in various stages, first without a heat exchanger, then with one, using...
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Has anyone used a fuelless heater? What are the pros & cons? Does anyone have any free plans for one?...
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Oct 28, 2004
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I've always thought 'fuelless' was a misnomer - it may not DIRECTLY burn fuel to produce heat but it sure uses energy to rotate the drums. I think these are...
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Oct 28, 2004
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I remember hearing about the "Freynette" (sp?) fuel-less furnace many years ago...I believe it was two drums, one mounted inside the other, with a viscous oil...
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... Some years ago I ran across a pitch for a heating device that ran on sulfuric acid. The system had a tank of concentrated sulfuric acid into which a...
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:22:48 -0000 "dumpsterdivingfool" ... *************************** vcrepair@... "Fueless heater" is a pair of drums that fit inside...
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... Nope - Griggs and Newman, two hillbillies that would never get along.... they'd be on the ground bug-tusslin' before the day was out.... and you know...
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Friction heaters are technically "fuelless" but a very poor way to make heat from rotational power, a much better way is to have a rotating shaft (which...
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