Folks consider the following: crude oil $.36 gasoline $1.08 jug water $1.00 Coca Cola $$1.86 milk $3.00 Evian water $$4.50 Orange juice $6.00 Budweiser...
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Bill Allen
allenwh@xxx.xxxx
Apr 7, 1999 3:35 am
Eric, I usually stay pretty quiet. I have been following various claims and Joe Newman's device for some 15+ years. You could probably call me a "healthy...
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Eric Krieg
eric@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Apr 10, 1999 4:36 am
Hi folks, The prominent FE messiahs have some standard rants concisely stated as: "why the world needs free energy"; "the conspiracy is after me" and "they...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 11, 1999 4:39 pm
Hey all, Look what I just found. Now here is a guy who understands Thermodynamics. www.secondlaw.com Enjoy, Boyd...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 13, 1999 8:58 pm
To all who might be interested, This be Boyd Cantrell. I have somthing to say. First about Eric Krieg. He is trying to save you from people like Dennis Lee,...
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NAlchemist@xxx.xxx
Apr 13, 1999 9:08 pm
Is anyone familiar with the Robert Adams ? I have seen some info on him and wonder if anyone has been able to reproduce his "Pulsed Electric Motor/Generator Do...
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bsaucer@xxxxx.xxxxxxx...
bsaucer@xxxxx.xxxxxxx...
Apr 13, 1999 9:17 pm
... How often do you have to refill the water? Ben Saucer e-mail: bsaucer@... web page: www.zebra.net/~bsaucer ICQ: 20610314...
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Bob Dubner
rdubner@xxx.xxxx
Apr 14, 1999 5:12 am
Hi there, Boyd. Very interesting. I have this sudden mental image of the wheels of industry being driven by fields of 100-foot tall goofy-looking drinking...
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boytrell@...
Apr 14, 1999 7:44 pm
from Boyd Cantrell <Boytrell@...> To Bob Dubner Hi Bob, Almost every thing you said is true but you really should look up the definition of perpetual...
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David Sligar
audax22@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Apr 14, 1999 11:50 pm
Exactly right, Bob. I have one of those drinking birds, thought it would be fun to figure out how it works -- see explanation below. But the hydroelectric...
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David W. Dial
ao369@xxxx.xxxx
Apr 15, 1999 3:29 am
... I recently bailed out of the Newman List after Newman embarrassed an engineer in Los Angeles who seriously questioned his claims and got nonsense instead...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 15, 1999 6:17 am
Dear David Dial, The people who sell the birds claim the liquid is R-11 so you can correct them if you like. Here is their URL. ...
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ASu2431426@xxx.xxx
Apr 15, 1999 8:47 am
Why is the discussion always on scam artists or novelties like drinking birds?. If you want to discuss over unity start with research and development work by...
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BEN ANDERSON 7657519
VCC3.WILLIAM@xxxx.xxx...
Apr 15, 1999 10:06 am
... -> free_energy(a)onelist.com ... Any of these online? Http-links? (Not the general link to the main page of NASA, etc, but links to actual pages on the...
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Bob Dubner
rdubner@xxx.xxxx
Apr 15, 1999 3:52 pm
... I have never in my life heard about the "Kelvin-Planck" statement. I just checked a couple of physics books, and they don't mention it, so I can't easily...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 15, 1999 6:00 pm
to Bob Dubner, Bob please read my letter again. I didn't say that I didn't care how it worked. I said I don't care if it's filled with apple buter as long as...
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ASu2431426@xxx.xxx
Apr 15, 1999 6:53 pm
All you dipping bird fans. Your discussion is erudite, impressive and probably accurate. But a forest of dipping birds will not make commercial energy...
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Norm Biss
normpems@xxxx.xxxx
Apr 16, 1999 1:04 am
... The obvious reason for the discussions turning to scam artists and novelties, is because there are so many scam artists, in addition to "Novelties" being...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 16, 1999 1:46 am
Eric, In answer to your letter I think I have realized that the problem with all this is that it is so simple that We can't communicate. I know how the bird...
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ASu2431426@xxx.xxx
Apr 16, 1999 8:39 am
Norm Actually your answer does give me part of what I am looking for...for ten years Ive been Editor of FTIR (a monthly newsletter) and every few months warn...
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Bob Dubner
rdubner@...
Apr 16, 1999 3:54 pm
Boyd -- with all due respect, you are misrepresenting some of the things I have said to you. I had decided that I had offered enough in this conversation and...
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BEN ANDERSON 7657519
VCC3.WILLIAM@xxxx.xxx...
Apr 16, 1999 5:00 pm
... -> free_energy(a)onelist.com ... Dear David Do you have any more info on this? I believe Newman offered to put up a large sum of money, some time ago, to...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 16, 1999 5:22 pm
Bob, I'm glad you finally found and learned the Kelvin-Planck statement. You seem to want to read other stipulations into it though. A good lawer wouldn't...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 16, 1999 9:40 pm
Hi David, I agree with everything you said, Especially "if the ambient temperature drops below freezing then the birds beak will rest on top of the ice." This...
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Jean-Pierre Lentin
jplentin@xxxxxxxxxxxx...
Apr 17, 1999 7:57 am
Hi Boyd and all ! Drinking Bird over-unity was discussed as an amusing aside by Vortex discussion list in May 1998. I saved the most interesting posts and can ...
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 17, 1999 7:36 pm
Hello Jean-Pierre, Yes your entry was funny. I enjoyed it but also learned somthing. That is that it has been discussed before and as always they must...
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B. Poulin
buddha@xxxxxxxxxx.xx....
Apr 17, 1999 10:29 pm
Hello everyone. By free energy do you all mean cost-free energy? If so read Dennis Lee...hahaha. Bert....
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boytrell@xxxxxxx.xxx
Apr 17, 1999 10:05 pm
I forgot to include somthing else at the place where I said "Don't you dare draw a control volume around the Kelvin- Planck statement insulating it from the...
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David W. Dial
ao369@xxxx.xxxx
Apr 18, 1999 3:25 am
... It complies with the laws of thermodynamics just fine. ... You have to be careful applying these physics theories and laws. They originate in research to...
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Bob Dubner
rdubner@xxx.xxxx
Apr 18, 1999 2:22 pm
Boyd -- the only reason I am continuing to belabor this is in the hope that not only you, but that some other people here may get some insight into what is,...
