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I think that we on the diode array thread are discussing two separate machines that absorb heat while yielding electrical power. A photovoltaic cell that...
c_b_kauai
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Aug 1, 2005
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17714
One of the keys to the supposition that this violates the Second Law is that no net energy is required to maintain diffusion of the solute in its solvent. I...
Gary S.
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Aug 1, 2005
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17715
Any one seen the post on other forums take a disposable camera remove film solder the trigger leads together raise an aluminum foil sheet on a pole and hook to...
hotwiredu
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Aug 1, 2005
3:07 pm
17716
... Gary, this exactly describes the (supposed) working of the diffusion machine. It's a proposed 2nd law violator, i.e. it can take heat from a _single_ body...
Roland PJ
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Aug 1, 2005
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17717
... remove film solder the trigger leads together raise an aluminum foil sheet on a pole and hook to + side and a driven ground rod to - and after a bit the...
Gary S.
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Aug 1, 2005
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17718
... Right, and that's why I think it won't work. I don't think that "active" diffusion, that is the diffusion of a solute into a more dilute solvent against...
Gary S.
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Aug 1, 2005
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17719
... Well, you can try this at home. Put some sugar/salt at the bottom of a jar. Pour water in taking care not to agitate the sugar/salt. Leave it for a while....
Roland Paterson-Jones
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Aug 1, 2005
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17720
... Right, but unless you can be certain it didn't absorb thermal energy from the surroundings you haven't proven it's a Second Law violator. Perhaps a good...
Gary S.
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Aug 1, 2005
8:12 pm
17721
Roland is correct of course, and I am pushed to think of a more patently incorrect reason for a perpetual motion mmachine not working than the one Gary has put...
Bob Lerwill
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Aug 1, 2005
8:31 pm
17722
... Ah, but "the one Gary has put forward" is exactly what you're aiming at, below. It takes real WORK to raise that center of gravity, and I maintain that...
Gary S.
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Aug 1, 2005
10:42 pm
17723
... Gary, it is expected that the diffusion machine will take heat from the environment. It has to get the energy from somewhere, otherwise it's a 1st law...
Roland PJ
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Aug 2, 2005
12:40 pm
17724
... working ... the ... environment, ... but ... It just cannot be done. Let's leave aside the problem of the very small tmeperature decrease that would result...
Bob Lerwill
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Aug 2, 2005
12:55 pm
17725
... OK, got it. It all comes down to IF the solute would diffuse upward to keep the cycle going, absorbing ambient heat while doing so. If not (and I can't see...
Gary S.
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Aug 2, 2005
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17726
Dave Russell <kineticenergy@...> wrote: Hi Isamael Aviso, For $130,000 you could have built many kinetic energy machines. These machines take a single...
ismael aviso
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Aug 2, 2005
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17727
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:53:06 -0700 (PDT) ismael aviso ... Leysander *********************************************8 vcrepair@... Too bad the Kinetic Energy...
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Aug 3, 2005
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17728
... illiteracy <=> cretinhood <=> unsightliness <=> congenital inherited schizofrenia http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/tree/browse_frm/thread/ ...
Autymn D. C.
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Aug 3, 2005
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17729
Aut, Interesting doctrinal view point God and Satan as one. Hmmm I am unaware of any writing that supports that view point. Neil...
mackays
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Aug 3, 2005
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17730
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:07:50 -0700 (PDT) ismael aviso <ismaelaviso@...> writes: vcrepair@... wrote: Depending on how LONG that voltage and current ...
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17731
... no...
Autymn D. C.
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Aug 3, 2005
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17732
Glad you can see the principle, Gary. If you have any links to show where this stratification exists,I would be grateful if you could post them to the...
Bob Lerwill
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Aug 3, 2005
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17733
I figured I give you all "call" since you're knowledgeable and have good analytical skills. I'm trying to reproduce the Continuous Electrical Generator of...
Robert
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Aug 3, 2005
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17734
vcrepair@... wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:53:06 -0700 (PDT) ismael aviso ... Leysander *********************************************8 vcrepair@... ...
ismael aviso
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Aug 3, 2005
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17735
Hello Sir, I am karthik from Madurai. I need some informations about Perpetual motion machine. Its history, working till date and other specifications. I...
karthick_603
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Aug 3, 2005
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17736
... Deep ocean salinity? Since there are constant exchanges of water from shallow to deep oceans due to global-scale currents I can't see how any...
Gary S.
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Aug 3, 2005
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17737
... Such machines do not exist. Many have tried, some have claimed success, but none have reliable, repeatedly demonstrated any PMM, ever. Most of the field is...
Gary S.
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Aug 3, 2005
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17738
I have no idea what you guys are discussing so have nothing to contribute except that your comment on stratification caught my eye. If you have ever been scuba...
rlm555339
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Aug 3, 2005
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17739
... Leysander, Inductors are short circuits to DC. Capacitors are open circuits to DC. Both use the same formula. inductor is v = L di/dt capacitor is i = C...
rlm555339
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Aug 3, 2005
2:35 pm
17740
... Stop repeating this lie. Deal with the two I've kept speaking of....
Autymn D. C.
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Aug 3, 2005
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17741
Can the Second Law of Thermodynamics Be Circumvented? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/ b14dcabbcc3fd1b3?tvc=1...
Autymn D. C.
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Aug 3, 2005
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17742
... and ... Aut, I don't like your syntax, and the first part of your statement is wrong. Wayne...
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