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17713 c_b_kauai Offline Send Email Aug 1, 2005
10:24 am
I think that we on the diode array thread are discussing two separate machines that absorb heat while yielding electrical power. A photovoltaic cell that...
17714 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
2:48 pm
One of the keys to the supposition that this violates the Second Law is that no net energy is required to maintain diffusion of the solute in its solvent. I...
17715 hotwiredu Offline Send Email Aug 1, 2005
3:07 pm
Any one seen the post on other forums take a disposable camera remove film solder the trigger leads together raise an aluminum foil sheet on a pole and hook to...
17716 Roland PJ
rolandpj Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
3:20 pm
... Gary, this exactly describes the (supposed) working of the diffusion machine. It's a proposed 2nd law violator, i.e. it can take heat from a _single_ body...
17717 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
4:47 pm
... remove film solder the trigger leads together raise an aluminum foil sheet on a pole and hook to + side and a driven ground rod to - and after a bit the...
17718 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
4:49 pm
... Right, and that's why I think it won't work. I don't think that "active" diffusion, that is the diffusion of a solute into a more dilute solvent against...
17719 Roland Paterson-Jones
rolandpj Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
7:39 pm
... Well, you can try this at home. Put some sugar/salt at the bottom of a jar. Pour water in taking care not to agitate the sugar/salt. Leave it for a while....
17720 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
8:12 pm
... Right, but unless you can be certain it didn't absorb thermal energy from the surroundings you haven't proven it's a Second Law violator. Perhaps a good...
17721 Bob Lerwill
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Aug 1, 2005
8:31 pm
Roland is correct of course, and I am pushed to think of a more patently incorrect reason for a perpetual motion mmachine not working than the one Gary has put...
17722 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 1, 2005
10:42 pm
... Ah, but "the one Gary has put forward" is exactly what you're aiming at, below. It takes real WORK to raise that center of gravity, and I maintain that...
17723 Roland PJ
rolandpj Offline Send Email
Aug 2, 2005
12:40 pm
... Gary, it is expected that the diffusion machine will take heat from the environment. It has to get the energy from somewhere, otherwise it's a 1st law...
17724 Bob Lerwill
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Aug 2, 2005
12:55 pm
... working ... the ... environment, ... but ... It just cannot be done. Let's leave aside the problem of the very small tmeperature decrease that would result...
17725 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 2, 2005
1:16 pm
... OK, got it. It all comes down to IF the solute would diffuse upward to keep the cycle going, absorbing ambient heat while doing so. If not (and I can't see...
17726 ismael aviso
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Aug 2, 2005
6:24 pm
Dave Russell <kineticenergy@...> wrote: Hi Isamael Aviso, For $130,000 you could have built many kinetic energy machines. These machines take a single...
17727 vcrepair@...
vcrepair Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
2:24 am
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:53:06 -0700 (PDT) ismael aviso ... Leysander *********************************************8 vcrepair@... Too bad the Kinetic Energy...
17728 Autymn D. C.
lyshypdexatia Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
3:38 am
... illiteracy <=> cretinhood <=> unsightliness <=> congenital inherited schizofrenia http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/tree/browse_frm/thread/ ...
17729 mackays
lienyakcam Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
3:48 am
Aut, Interesting doctrinal view point God and Satan as one. Hmmm I am unaware of any writing that supports that view point. Neil...
17730 vcrepair@...
vcrepair Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
4:29 am
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 20:07:50 -0700 (PDT) ismael aviso <ismaelaviso@...> writes: vcrepair@... wrote: Depending on how LONG that voltage and current ...
17731 Autymn D. C.
lyshypdexatia Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
4:32 am
... no...
17732 Bob Lerwill
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Aug 3, 2005
8:56 am
Glad you can see the principle, Gary. If you have any links to show where this stratification exists,I would be grateful if you could post them to the...
17733 Robert
rob_zpe Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
12:05 pm
I figured I give you all "call" since you're knowledgeable and have good analytical skills. I'm trying to reproduce the Continuous Electrical Generator of...
17734 ismael aviso
ismaelaviso Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
1:00 pm
vcrepair@... wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:53:06 -0700 (PDT) ismael aviso ... Leysander *********************************************8 vcrepair@... ...
17735 karthick_603 Offline Send Email Aug 3, 2005
1:01 pm
Hello Sir, I am karthik from Madurai. I need some informations about Perpetual motion machine. Its history, working till date and other specifications. I...
17736 Gary S.
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Aug 3, 2005
1:33 pm
... Deep ocean salinity? Since there are constant exchanges of water from shallow to deep oceans due to global-scale currents I can't see how any...
17737 Gary S.
garys_2k Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
1:38 pm
... Such machines do not exist. Many have tried, some have claimed success, but none have reliable, repeatedly demonstrated any PMM, ever. Most of the field is...
17738 rlm555339
mr_bubb2002 Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
2:04 pm
I have no idea what you guys are discussing so have nothing to contribute except that your comment on stratification caught my eye. If you have ever been scuba...
17739 rlm555339
mr_bubb2002 Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
2:35 pm
... Leysander, Inductors are short circuits to DC. Capacitors are open circuits to DC. Both use the same formula. inductor is v = L di/dt capacitor is i = C...
17740 Autymn D. C.
lyshypdexatia Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
5:36 pm
... Stop repeating this lie. Deal with the two I've kept speaking of....
17741 Autymn D. C.
lyshypdexatia Offline Send Email
Aug 3, 2005
7:29 pm
Can the Second Law of Thermodynamics Be Circumvented? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/ b14dcabbcc3fd1b3?tvc=1...
17742 waynegage2000 Offline Send Email Aug 3, 2005
8:39 pm
... and ... Aut, I don't like your syntax, and the first part of your statement is wrong. Wayne...
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