There has been a good bit of publicity lately for Denny Klein and his
Aquygen water car. The HHO gas he's producing to run in his car has almost
all the same attributes and benefits as Brown's Gas, which he didn't
invent. Brown's Gas has been around since the 60's. George Wiseman at
Eagle Research has been doing pioneering work on Brown's Gas for about a
decade. He developed most of the concepts that other people are
using. George builds Browns Gas machines that can do essentially the same
thing as Denny Klein's, but with higher efficiency, as far as I can
tell. I sent George a note about Denny. George says he knows about him.

Check out George's websites at: http://www.eagle-research.com/ and
http://www.watertorch.com/ .

If you want to look at Denny Klein's site, it's at: http://hytechapps.com/ .

In one of the videos on the Denny Klein's site, they say it costs about
$0.70 to operate the machine for 1 hour and it produces 1500 liters of
gas. Now, if electricity is $0.10 / KWH then they're using about 7 KW for
that hour. In that case they're getting 1500 L / 7 KW = 241 L / KW. If
electricity is $0.07 / KWH then they're using about 10 KW for the hour. In
that case, they're getting 1500 L / 10 KW = 150 L / KW. I cannot find any
technical specs on the site.

For comparison, on George's website, he says in one place that producing
3000 L / HR would require 9 KW. So, he's getting 3000 L / 9 KW = 333 L /
KW. So, comparing 333 L / KW to 241 L / KW, George's machine is at least
38% more efficient than Denny's, unless Denny is paying much more for
electricity.

By the way, Denny's Aquygen machine costs $6995 for 1500 L / HR and
George's Brown's Gas machine costs $3700 for 1200 L / HR. So the cost of
Denny's machine is $6995 / 1500L = $4.66 / L and the cost of George's
machine is $3700 / 1200L = $3.08 / L, or 34% less.

Now, in terms of running the car. Some of the news reports about Denny's
car have stated that he can run it on only water. As far as I can tell, he
doesn't say that on his website. He claims a 30-50% increase in fuel
economy, which is the same claim George makes for Brown's Gas injection.

Also, if you look at this lab report
http://hytechapps.com/aquygen/international_journal.pdf from Denny's
website, you can see what effects injecting HHO into an engine have on the
exhaust. When mixing HHO with Natural Gas, the test lab found the
following. I would suspect similar results for Brown's Gas.

Carbon Monoxide (CO) - Decreased almost to nothing - GOOD
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) - INCREASED slightly - BAD
Hydrocarbons (HC) - Decreased substantially - GOOD
Oxygen (O2) - Increased substantially - GOOD
Nitrous Oxides (NOx) - Decreased substantially - GOOD

From this I draw the following conclusions, Aquygen (HHO) (and probably
also Brown's Gas) can be injected into engines and will significantly
improve fuel economy, and will substantially reduce pollution EXCEPT carbon
dioxide, and will substantially increase oxygen output. So, we could use
this to help reduce our need of fossil fuels, to help reduce dependence on
foreign oil, and to clean the atmosphere. However, because the output of
carbon dioxide is slightly increased, using Aquygen or Brown's Gas will
probably either do nothing directly for global warming or make it slightly
worse. I'm not adamant about that, since you will be burning less
fuel. Someone with knowledge of combustion systems could elaborate on
total carbon output under these conditions. It might have an indirect
benefit on global warming, since users would burn less fuel and could
potentially use some of the savings to invest in conservation or buy carbon
credits, etc.

Now, here's another point to ponder. On the FAQ on George's website, he
responds to a question about running an engine solely on Brown's Gas. He
says it would take 3000L / HR to idle a 140 CI engine at 500 RPM without
doing any work. Producing the gas would take 9 KW. He says that's not
practical. But, just hypothetically, suppose you have an engine that's
doing nothing but driving a generator. Suppose the engine can produce 180
HP and that it takes 10 X the gas to run it. So, that's 30,000 L / HR of
gas to run the engine and 90 KW of power to power the gas generator(s). It
sounds like you could make it self running. Anyone have any thoughts on
that. P.S. I know the gas generators would be very expensive. I'm just
exploring the concept.

Sincerely,

Ron Frazier
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