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The utilization of natural energy sources to maintain this natural in order to stay healthy is a wise thing.Just like the Calmac Booth company that has an ideas to storing the energy power in the ice in the use of the work air conditioning and called hybrid cooling system. Read more at http://earthalternate.blogspot.com/

#483

From: "aeonarc" <aeonarc@...>
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

aeonarc

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I think it is a Coleman unit which has the Stirling. Peltier junctions are very
inefficient. Here's some collected Stirling engine links:
http://www.geocities.com/kenboak/stirling.html
http://dlyonnet.club.fr/stirlinuk.html
http://dlyonnet.club.fr/modeluk.html
http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/indexe.htm
http://www.sesusa.org/
http://www.stirlinginfo.com/
http://www.globalcooling.nl/
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/2068/?200619?200620
http://members.aol.com/tstirlingo/
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/tmsb/stirling/intro_stirling/Slidepage.html
http://www.jerry-howell.com/
http://www.purveyor.com/engine.htm
http://www.pmresearchinc.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=1504&cat=0
http://www.physics.sfasu.edu/astro/courses/egr112/StirlingEngine/stirling.html
http://www.acclivity.ca/kompressor/stirling/stirling_engines.html
http://www.stirlingenergy.com/whatisastirlingengine.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine
http://www.stirlingenergy.com/whatisastirlingengine.htm
http://www.redrok.com/engine.htm
http://www.xenotechresearch.com/solturb1.htm
http://www.steamengine.com.au/stirling/models/baileycraft/index.html
http://www.baileycraft.com/senft.htm
http://www.potpower.com/stirlingengine.html
http://www.stirlingenergy.com/technology/suncatcher.asp
http://www.gyroscope.com/d.asp?product=SOLARSTIRLING
http://www.a3bs.com/shop/u.s.a./stirling-engine-fan-u49328,p_5_754_757_768_10764\
_searchresult_true.html
http://www.a3bs.com/shop/u.s.a./sun-runner-stirling-engine-u49325,p_83_111_868_0\
_10765_searchresult_true.html

--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, kristian borgstedt <kristian.borgstedt@...>
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> >  Seems to me i remember an article a few years back,
> > about Stirling engines and some of their little known behavior.
> > If you spin the fly wheel by mechanical means,
> > such as a small electric motor, the hot and cold
> > valves of the Stirling Engine actaully get hot and cold
> > ( or so I read ) and saw a picture of a Stirling Engine crapping ice.
> > ...well, the build up of ice on the cold side valve, anyway.
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> I remember this as well, I even saw a product broschure (which I cant find
> now, and google finds nothing for me either) for a product that was a
> fridge, and water-heater in one... But I have searched a long time on the
> net, and still cant find it.
>
> But perhaps for a device like this it would be more energy efficient to use
> a Peltier Cell instead, thus leaving the energydraining Mechanical
> construction of a sterling engine out of the picture....
>
> /Kristian
>

#482

From: kristian borgstedt <kristian.borgstedt@...>
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:27 am
Subject: Re: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

borgstedtkri...

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Seems to me i remember an article a few years back,

about Stirling engines and some of their little known behavior.

If�you spin the fly wheel by mechanical means,
such as a small electric motor, the hot and cold
valves�of the�Stirling Engine actaully get hot and cold
( or so�I read ) and saw a picture of a Stirling Engine crapping ice.

...well, the build up of ice on the cold side valve, anyway.

I remember this as well, I even saw a product broschure (which I cant find now, and google finds nothing for me either) for a product that was a fridge, and water-heater in one... But I have searched a long time on the net, and still cant find it.

But perhaps for a device like this it would be more energy efficient to use a Peltier Cell instead, thus leaving the energydraining Mechanical construction of a sterling engine out of the picture....

/Kristian

#481

From: "talkaboutalternativeenergy" <talkaboutalternativeenergy@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:53 am
Subject: Modern Solar Technologies Shading Out Silicon Solar Panels

talkaboutalt...

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A silicon solar panel manufacturer has announced plans to close its U.S. plant, another is moving production to China, and a third is downsizing.

All three companies are switching to more modern technology in a business climate of inventory buildup and overcapacity for crystalline silicon solar panels and industry pricing below the cost of producing the familiar panels that are the basis for most solar installations in the United States.

For more informations please follow This Link!

#480

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

farangworks

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http://www.rexresearch.com/1index.htm

Seems to me i remember an article a few years back,

about Stirling engines and some of their little known behavior.

If you spin the fly wheel by mechanical means,
such as a small electric motor, the hot and cold
valves of the Stirling Engine actaully get hot and cold
( or so I read ) and saw a picture of a Stirling Engine crapping ice.

...well, the build up of ice on the cold side valve, anyway.

But they really swooped on erasing that from the internet,
have not seen it since, but imagine heating your house and

running your fridge, from a small electric motor.

Can't find it now, but it rememded me of some other gadgets

that make you think. I'm sure you can think of things to do with this...

vertex tubes
http://www.airtxinternational.com/vortex-tubes/

More good stuff
http://keelynet.com/indexoct1008.htm

and don't forget to visit RexResearch

www.kevinchalresperkins.com (see videos)

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Michael Messenger <farangworks@...> wrote:

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Subject: Re: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 3:02 AM

There are certain laws regarding even energy, such as patent laws,

that are so corrupt a child can see it and would be amazed that

adults don't. So I thought I'd bring up this Youtube video...

Since a friend shared it with me.

I'll just copy and paste...

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=pA4GKG_ _B-s&feature=related

In this OLD TV SHOW "At Issue" (from The National Endowment For Liberty), Ron Paul is joined by a panel of experts to discuss the power of the jury and to expose the Judge's dirty little secret.

"Jury Nullification" is the power of the Jury to overturn bad laws (of which, we have MANY). It is an important tool guaranteed to citizens serving on jury duty. Jury nullification enables us to declare laws unjust, if we are so inclined.

Most Judges do not want you to know about this power. Juries are only told they can rule "guilty" or "not guilty." They are never told of their third option, "the law is bad."

Shame on bad Judges covering up this power and the corrupt system which allow these arrogant Judges to remain on the bench.

Learn your rights and DO NOT try to get out of jury duty.

Unfortunately at certain times of the day/night Youtube will mute the video,

or part one where it esplains your power.

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Michael Messenger <farangworks@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 6:59 PM

Perpetual Motion is a big word.

Bessler's wheel got him killed.

Let us chose the word "Over Unity" instead.

Now if you watch "Fueless Heater" on Youtube...

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw

It is suposedly over unity.

If youy search a "history of suppressed patnets" "Vapor Carb" etc,

and "Death of Stan Mayer" etc, you'll find a high rate of death among

the earlier inventors of such things, yet for everyone they killed,

an hundred more rose in their place, thank God, and today there

are guys in their garage acheiving cold fusion.

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, James D <jdavis@oddpost. com> wrote:

From: James D <jdavis@oddpost. com>
Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:14 PM

They grant patents to perpetual motion machines all the time...the secret is applicants just don't call them a "perpetual motion machine", or even hint at it. Of course they don't work, but nobody's looking. And no one really needs to be bribed with this level of incompetence.

James

A silver lining (if you would call it that) is that a real device could likely get through unless blatently obvious.

James

--- In freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com, Michael Messenger <farangworks@ ...> wrote:
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> That's odd though because the useless corrupt patent office refuses to grant patents for "perpetual motion machines" based on the claim that "they wont work" and yet you say they are issuing patents left and right for things that don't work. Â it's pathetic since it is only a small handful bribe hungry two digit IQ garbage running that office, earning more than the pee-on spy monitoring this group, and yet millions of us and true progress are held at bay by this handful of chit?
> Their job is to receive the money and issue the patent, not determine if it will ever work.They receive revenue, to issue patents, I'm sure they don't determine whether a new bike chain works or not. Â They have been instructed by the King Crap, to refuse any patent that might threaten the King Crap income. I pray God stuffs them back down their sewer pipe where they came from, Amen.Â
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> Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
> To: freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com
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#479

From: "jengsett" <jengsett@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:23 am
Subject: Boat Tail Truck Economize fuel By 7.5 Percent

jengsett

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A truck that have a tapering protrusion which is mounted on the back end of a truck is about two meters tail ends length has been shown to reduce fuel consumption about 7.5%.It has been verified by road tests conducted by the Dutch PART (Platform for Aerodynamic Road Transport) public-private partnership platform.Read more at http://earthalternate.blogspot.com/

#478

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:02 am
Subject: Re: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

farangworks

Offline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4GKG__B-s&feature=related

There are certain laws regarding even energy, such as patent laws,

that are so corrupt a child can see it and would be amazed that

adults don't. So I thought I'd bring up this Youtube video...

Since a friend shared it with me.

I'll just copy and paste...

In this OLD TV SHOW "At Issue" (from The National Endowment For Liberty), Ron Paul is joined by a panel of experts to discuss the power of the jury and to expose the Judge's dirty little secret.

"Jury Nullification" is the power of the Jury to overturn bad laws (of which, we have MANY). It is an important tool guaranteed to citizens serving on jury duty. Jury nullification enables us to declare laws unjust, if we are so inclined.

Most Judges do not want you to know about this power. Juries are only told they can rule "guilty" or "not guilty." They are never told of their third option, "the law is bad."

Shame on bad Judges covering up this power and the corrupt system which allow these arrogant Judges to remain on the bench.

Learn your rights and DO NOT try to get out of jury duty.

Unfortunately at certain times of the day/night Youtube will mute the video,

or part one where it esplains your power.

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Michael Messenger <farangworks@...> wrote:

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Subject: Re: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 6:59 PM

Perpetual Motion is a big word.

Bessler's wheel got him killed.

Let us chose the word "Over Unity" instead.

Now if you watch "Fueless Heater" on Youtube...

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw

It is suposedly over unity.

If youy search a "history of suppressed patnets" "Vapor Carb" etc,

and "Death of Stan Mayer" etc, you'll find a high rate of death among

the earlier inventors of such things, yet for everyone they killed,

an hundred more rose in their place, thank God, and today there

are guys in their garage acheiving cold fusion.

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, James D <jdavis@oddpost. com> wrote:

From: James D <jdavis@oddpost. com>
Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:14 PM

They grant patents to perpetual motion machines all the time...the secret is applicants just don't call them a "perpetual motion machine", or even hint at it. Of course they don't work, but nobody's looking. And no one really needs to be bribed with this level of incompetence.

James

A silver lining (if you would call it that) is that a real device could likely get through unless blatently obvious.

James

--- In freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com, Michael Messenger <farangworks@ ...> wrote:
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> That's odd though because the useless corrupt patent office refuses to grant patents for "perpetual motion machines" based on the claim that "they wont work" and yet you say they are issuing patents left and right for things that don't work. Â it's pathetic since it is only a small handful bribe hungry two digit IQ garbage running that office, earning more than the pee-on spy monitoring this group, and yet millions of us and true progress are held at bay by this handful of chit?
> Their job is to receive the money and issue the patent, not determine if it will ever work.They receive revenue, to issue patents, I'm sure they don't determine whether a new bike chain works or not. Â They have been instructed by the King Crap, to refuse any patent that might threaten the King Crap income. I pray God stuffs them back down their sewer pipe where they came from, Amen.Â
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> Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
> To: freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com
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#477

From: "jengsett" <jengsett@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:42 am
Subject: Novacell Portable Solar Charger,Recharge Eveywhere

jengsett

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Novacell has introduced Novacell Portable Solar Charger that will able provide electric power for recharged your gadget batteries such as iPods,your mobile, video cameras or anything that need eletricity power suitable with device capacity.Novacell Portable Solar Charger is able to literally be put into your pockets because of its small and you can taken anywhere if you need it. Read more at http://earthalternate.blogspot.com/

#476

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:59 am
Subject: Re: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

farangworks

Offline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw

Perpetual Motion is a big word.

Bessler's wheel got him killed.

Let us chose the word "Over Unity" instead.

Now if you watch "Fueless Heater" on Youtube...

It is suposedly over unity.

If youy search a "history of suppressed patnets" "Vapor Carb" etc,

and "Death of Stan Mayer" etc, you'll find a high rate of death among

the earlier inventors of such things, yet for everyone they killed,

an hundred more rose in their place, thank God, and today there

are guys in their garage acheiving cold fusion.

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, James D <jdavis@...> wrote:

From: James D <jdavis@...>
Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:14 PM

They grant patents to perpetual motion machines all the time...the secret is applicants just don't call them a "perpetual motion machine", or even hint at it. Of course they don't work, but nobody's looking. And no one really needs to be bribed with this level of incompetence.

James

A silver lining (if you would call it that) is that a real device could likely get through unless blatently obvious.

James

--- In freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com, Michael Messenger <farangworks@ ...> wrote:
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> That's odd though because the useless corrupt patent office refuses to grant patents for "perpetual motion machines" based on the claim that "they wont work" and yet you say they are issuing patents left and right for things that don't work. Â it's pathetic since it is only a small handful bribe hungry two digit IQ garbage running that office, earning more than the pee-on spy monitoring this group, and yet millions of us and true progress are held at bay by this handful of chit?
> Their job is to receive the money and issue the patent, not determine if it will ever work.They receive revenue, to issue patents, I'm sure they don't determine whether a new bike chain works or not. Â They have been instructed by the King Crap, to refuse any patent that might threaten the King Crap income. I pray God stuffs them back down their sewer pipe where they came from, Amen.Â
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> --- On Wed, 11/18/09, James D <jdavis@...> wrote:
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> From: James D <jdavis@...>
> Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
> To: freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com
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#475

From: "James D" <jdavis@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:14 am
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

fleubis

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They grant patents to perpetual motion machines all the time...the secret is
applicants just don't call them a "perpetual motion machine", or even hint at
it. Of course they don't work, but nobody's looking. And no one really needs to
be bribed with this level of incompetence.

James

A silver lining (if you would call it that) is that a real device could likely
get through unless blatently obvious.

James

--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, Michael Messenger <farangworks@...> wrote:
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> That's odd though because the useless corrupt patent office refuses to grant
patents for "perpetual motion machines" based on the claim that "they wont work"
and yet you say they are issuing patents left and right for things that don't
work.  it's pathetic since it is only a small handful bribe hungry two digit IQ
garbage running that office, earning more than the pee-on spy monitoring this
group, and yet millions of us and true progress are held at bay by this handful
of chit?
> Their job is to receive the money and issue the patent, not determine if it
will ever work.They receive revenue, to issue patents, I'm sure they don't
determine whether a new bike chain works or not.  They have been instructed by
the King Crap, to refuse any patent that might threaten the King Crap income. I
pray God stuffs them back down their sewer pipe where they came from, Amen. 
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> --- On Wed, 11/18/09, James D <jdavis@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
> To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 4:17 PM
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they will? There are several "legitimate" companies taking investor money with
**STILL** nothing to ship.
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#474

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets

farangworks

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Ha Ha Ha, I was joking about the "Artist Act"

But I'm not surprised you believed me, given some of the other "Acts" they pulled.

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...> wrote:

From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...>
Subject: Re: [freenergy] Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 6:09 AM

Michael, I haven't been able to find anything about this Artist Act. Can you provide a link about it or something?

Zack

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Michael Messenger <farangworks@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Imagination and creativity could be illegal in 2010, if the Artist Act passes, so hurry.

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#473

From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets

w9sz

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Michael, I haven't been able to find anything about this Artist Act. Can you provide a link about it or something?

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Zack

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Michael Messenger <farangworks@...> wrote:

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Imagination and creativity could be illegal in 2010, if the Artist Act passes, so hurry.

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#472

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

farangworks

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That's odd though because the useless corrupt patent office refuses to grant patents for "perpetual motion machines" based on the claim that "they wont work" and yet you say they are issuing patents left and right for things that don't work. it's pathetic since it is only a small handful bribe hungry two digit IQ garbage running that office, earning more than the pee-on spy monitoring this group, and yet millions of us and true progress are held at bay by this handful of chit?

Their job is to receive the money and issue the patent, not determine if it will ever work.

They receive revenue, to issue patents, I'm sure they don't determine whether a new bike chain works or not. They have been instructed by the King Crap, to refuse any patent that might threaten the King Crap income. I pray God stuffs them back down their sewer pipe where they came from, Amen.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, James D <jdavis@...> wrote:

From: James D <jdavis@...>
Subject: [freenergy] Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 4:17 PM

Patents don't mean squat as the patent office is letting all kinds of non-working, never-will-work devices pass thru the process and get their patent. But Lutec is not shipping a product yet. Anyone care to hazard a guess if/when they will? There are several "legitimate" companies taking investor money with **STILL** nothing to ship.

James

--- In freenergy@yahoogrou ps.com, "plasmabrant" <brantc.1@.. .> wrote:
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> The person selling the plans I think is a scam.
> They took what someone else is doing and tried to scam it.
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> Here is the real company Lutec. They actually have a real product.
> http://www.lutec. com.au/
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> All patented and tested.
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> Brant

#471

From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets

w9sz

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Hi Michael,

Once you get to the Yahoogroups webpage (http://groups.yahoo.com) there are provisions for being able to recover your password if you forgot it. Hopefully you remembered your login name. It will ask you a question or two that you filled in when you joined, such as "Where was your father born?" etc. Provided you gave it answers you couldn't forget, it will e-mail you your password. But responding the way you did works fine, too. 99% of the time my postings to Yahoogroups are through my own e-mail account(s).

Yours is an excellent post. I read that book years ago and I might just buy myself a copy, as it is so good.

I consider myself very fortunate that I grew up in the "previous generation" (I just turned 57) when some of us were actually educated in the ways of the world for real. Some of us actually know who Guido d'Arezzo, John Galt and Dean Moriarty are!

:-)

I'm also an electrical engineer, so I have a better grasp of electricity and electronics than most.

Zack

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Michael Messenger <farangworks@...> wrote:

I don't even know my password, or how to really get in to the posting area once there,

I visited years ago when I joined this group, and ever since, only posted responses

through my email when I saw something in my email from another poster.

.

So I will just do that now, in order to post this, like I'm responding to their post,

though this will probably have nothing to do with their post.

.

I think having the ability to better understand electricity and how it works, then enables your imagination and creativity to harness the powers that be by the short hairs, mount them, and ride them into next week.

.

Imagination and creativity could be illegal in 2010, if the Artist Act passes, so hurry.

.

What the heck am I talking about? Old out of print books, one in particular.

.

It was written at a time when the powers that be didn't even have the nads yet to sneak

in to congress on Christmas day when most congressmen were home with their families

and bribe the three remaining non-christian congressmen into passing the fatass reserve

back in 1912.

.

Yes written at a time when few people even had electricity, and trying to pay-meter it $$$

was priority with the oinkapedomous crew. Trying to censor books about it, came later.

.

I'm talking about, the title, "Harper's Electricity Book for Boys" Published in 1907 wherein they show 14 year old kids how to make home made, Induction Coils, Dynamos, Whimshursts Machines, Arc Welders, Microphones, Wireless Telegraphs, Wind Turbines, Radio Receivers, Speakers, etc,

.

...you know, stuff that makes you self suficiant, shake the Owellian lice out of your head, pronounce power names with a porcilin echo, wipe your NWO and Flush the vote machine.

yeah yeah, whatever, the wife is making me take creative writing at city college.

Anyway, ... this book was out of print for years but has been
reprinted by Lindsay publications
their web site is www.lindsaybks.com it's printed right in the book.

.

They have another one which is a 1940s reprint of the first, with some slight variations, called, "The Boy Electrician" Don't let the titles fool you, an 8th grade test from 1940

would stump most Americans today. See: (The Deliberate Dumbing down of America)

However the books are easy to follow diagram illustrated and a wealth of info.

.

In any case, that one also out of print now, but reprinted by Lindsay. I bought both a few years ago, but one is basically a plagerization of the other, with a few exceptions, so if you're on a low budget you don't need both
. I think I paid $12 for each or something, though it was a few years ago. (wait)...

I just visited their web site, they don't list one of those books anymore, probably because it was so similar to the other, but they still have "The Boy Electrician" and the price has gone up to $19.99

Lindsay also has many other re-printed "how to" books, such as, how to make a small foundry and sand mold your own metal parts, cool stuff like that which can come in handy if you need a custom mount for your in-grill wind turbine to give your home made electric car another 20 miles a day.

.

Don't you just love when dis-info comes along and says, "The wind resistence on the turbines will make your electric motor have to work harder"? Ha, not if the turbine is a long squirel cage type turbine where the radiator use to be. That space is catching air anyway, like a parachute, might as well put it to use.

.

Anyway, the book I mentioned is worth having, trust me.

Even if you don't build any of the many cool contraptions it offers, but just examine the diagrams and read the explanations, you'll have a much better understanding of what electricity can do, and what you can do with it. In fact, I'd list some of it as (Stuff they don't want you to know)

KC

　

　

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jengsett <jengsett@...> wrote:

From: jengsett <jengsett@...>
Subject: [freenergy] Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 4:06 PM

Now in every major supermarket in UK has been installed a network of electric car recharging points outside the stores.So that consumers can recharge their electric car while shopping. Read more at http://earthalterna te.blogspot. com/

#470

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets

farangworks

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I don't even know my password, or how to really get in to the posting area once there,

I visited years ago when I joined this group, and ever since, only posted responses

through my email when I saw something in my email from another poster.

So I will just do that now, in order to post this, like I'm responding to their post,

though this will probably have nothing to do with their post.

I think having the ability to better understand electricity and how it works, then enables your imagination and creativity to harness the powers that be by the short hairs, mount them, and ride them into next week.

Imagination and creativity could be illegal in 2010, if the Artist Act passes, so hurry.

What the heck am I talking about? Old out of print books, one in particular.

It was written at a time when the powers that be didn't even have the nads yet to sneak

in to congress on Christmas day when most congressmen were home with their families

and bribe the three remaining non-christian congressmen into passing the fatass reserve

back in 1912.

Yes written at a time when few people even had electricity, and trying to pay-meter it $$$

was priority with the oinkapedomous crew. Trying to censor books about it, came later.

I'm talking about, the title, "Harper's Electricity Book for Boys" Published in 1907 wherein they show 14 year old kids how to make home made, Induction Coils, Dynamos, Whimshursts Machines, Arc Welders, Microphones, Wireless Telegraphs, Wind Turbines, Radio Receivers, Speakers, etc,

...you know, stuff that makes you self suficiant, shake the Owellian lice out of your head, pronounce power names with a porcilin echo, wipe your NWO and Flush the vote machine.

yeah yeah, whatever, the wife is making me take creative writing at city college.

Anyway, ... this book was out of print for years but has been

reprinted by Lindsay publications

their web site is www.lindsaybks.com it's printed right in the book.

They have another one which is a 1940s reprint of the first, with some slight variations, called, "The Boy Electrician" Don't let the titles fool you, an 8th grade test from 1940

would stump most Americans today. See: (The Deliberate Dumbing down of America)

However the books are easy to follow diagram illustrated and a wealth of info.

In any case, that one also out of print now, but reprinted by Lindsay. I bought both a few years ago, but one is basically a plagerization of the other, with a few exceptions, so if you're on a low budget you don't need both

. I think I paid $12 for each or something, though it was a few years ago. (wait)...

I just visited their web site, they don't list one of those books anymore, probably because it was so similar to the other, but they still have "The Boy Electrician" and the price has gone up to $19.99

Lindsay also has many other re-printed "how to" books, such as, how to make a small foundry and sand mold your own metal parts, cool stuff like that which can come in handy if you need a custom mount for your in-grill wind turbine to give your home made electric car another 20 miles a day.

Don't you just love when dis-info comes along and says, "The wind resistence on the turbines will make your electric motor have to work harder"? Ha, not if the turbine is a long squirel cage type turbine where the radiator use to be. That space is catching air anyway, like a parachute, might as well put it to use.

Anyway, the book I mentioned is worth having, trust me.

Even if you don't build any of the many cool contraptions it offers, but just examine the diagrams and read the explanations, you'll have a much better understanding of what electricity can do, and what you can do with it. In fact, I'd list some of it as (Stuff they don't want you to know)

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jengsett <jengsett@...> wrote:

From: jengsett <jengsett@...>
Subject: [freenergy] Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 4:06 PM

Now in every major supermarket in UK has been installed a network of electric car recharging points outside the stores.So that consumers can recharge their electric car while shopping. Read more at http://earthalterna te.blogspot. com/

#469

From: "James D" <jdavis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:17 am
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

fleubis

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Patents don't mean squat as the patent office is letting all kinds of
non-working, never-will-work devices pass thru the process and get their patent.
But Lutec is not shipping a product yet.  Anyone care to hazard a guess if/when
they will? There are several "legitimate" companies taking investor money with
**STILL** nothing to ship.

James

--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "plasmabrant" <brantc.1@...> wrote:
>
> The person selling the plans I think is a scam.
> They took what someone else is doing and tried to scam it.
>
> Here is the real company Lutec. They actually have a real product.
> http://www.lutec.com.au/
>
> All patented and tested.
>
> Brant

#468

From: "plasmabrant" <brantc.1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

plasmabrant

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The person selling the plans I think is a scam.
They took what someone else is doing and tried to scam it.

Here is the real company Lutec. They actually have a real product.
http://www.lutec.com.au/

All patented and tested.

Brant

--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@...> wrote:
>
> After reviewing a few blog sites about this device, it appears to be a scam. 
If anyone has an another opinion, please make a statement on the subject.
>
>
>
> --- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any information about Magniwork?
> > The following web article about cheap free energy solution.
> >
> > http://www.articlealley.com/article_1162918_27.html
> >
http://www.smallbizcenter.info/magniwork.php?apid=A100115M&apflag=1&gclid=CM6C3e\
PNh54CFQEhDQodpxexpw&v=1
> >
> >
> > http://magniwork-review.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jjswMuENU&feature=PlayList&p=2B7DBC618E41825E&i\
ndex=6
> >
>

#467

From: "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:39 am
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

ic_nevadamike

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After reviewing a few blog sites about this device, it appears to be a scam.  If
anyone has an another opinion, please make a statement on the subject.



--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information about Magniwork?
> The following web article about cheap free energy solution.
>
> http://www.articlealley.com/article_1162918_27.html
>
http://www.smallbizcenter.info/magniwork.php?apid=A100115M&apflag=1&gclid=CM6C3e\
PNh54CFQEhDQodpxexpw&v=1
>
>
> http://magniwork-review.blogspot.com/
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jjswMuENU&feature=PlayList&p=2B7DBC618E41825E&i\
ndex=6
>

#466

From: "jengsett" <jengsett@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:49 am
Subject: Commercial Flights To Use Biofuels By 2010

jengsett

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Attempts to obtain clean and green energy to save the earth could be done in order to reduce footprints carbon.The International Air Transport Association (IATA) is committed to find a biofuel in 2010 for commercial aviation and will soon be realized.Read more at http://earthalternate.blogspot.com/

#465

From: "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:43 am
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

ic_nevadamike

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Yes, I agree with your word, F R A U D, also S C A M is a another that comes to
mind.  Thanks for sharing your opinion.



--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "James D" <jdavis@...> wrote:
>
> One word comes to mind:   F R A U D
>
> --- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any information about Magniwork?
> > The following web article about cheap free energy solution.
> >
> > http://www.articlealley.com/article_1162918_27.html
> >
http://www.smallbizcenter.info/magniwork.php?apid=A100115M&apflag=1&gclid=CM6C3e\
PNh54CFQEhDQodpxexpw&v=1
> >
> >
> > http://magniwork-review.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jjswMuENU&feature=PlayList&p=2B7DBC618E41825E&i\
ndex=6
> >
>

#464

From: "James D" <jdavis@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:59 am
Subject: Re: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

fleubis

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One word comes to mind:   F R A U D

--- In freenergy@yahoogroups.com, "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information about Magniwork?
> The following web article about cheap free energy solution.
>
> http://www.articlealley.com/article_1162918_27.html
>
http://www.smallbizcenter.info/magniwork.php?apid=A100115M&apflag=1&gclid=CM6C3e\
PNh54CFQEhDQodpxexpw&v=1
>
>
> http://magniwork-review.blogspot.com/
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jjswMuENU&feature=PlayList&p=2B7DBC618E41825E&i\
ndex=6
>

#463

From: "talkaboutalternativeenergy" <talkaboutalternativeenergy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:18 am
Subject: Japan eyes solar station in space

talkaboutalt...

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It may sound like a sci-fi vision, but Japan's space agency is dead serious: by 2030 it wants to collect solar power in space and zap it down to Earth, using laser beams or microwaves.

The government has just picked a group of companies and a team of researchers tasked with turning the ambitious, multi-billion-dollar dream of unlimited clean energy into reality in coming decades.

Next informations Klik Here!

#462

From: "ElectronicT" <ic_nevadamike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:33 am
Subject: Magniwork - any information concerning this?

ic_nevadamike

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Does anyone have any information about Magniwork?
The following web article about cheap free energy solution.

http://www.articlealley.com/article_1162918_27.html
http://www.smallbizcenter.info/magniwork.php?apid=A100115M&apflag=1&gclid=CM6C3e\
PNh54CFQEhDQodpxexpw&v=1


http://magniwork-review.blogspot.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jjswMuENU&feature=PlayList&p=2B7DBC618E41825E&i\
ndex=6

#461

From: Michael Messenger <farangworks@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:22 am
Subject: Re: Solar Powered Plane Soon Be On Trial

farangworks

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I get the feeling the entire solar system is solar powered.

but hey, if the planes are all solar powered, how will they

explain the chemtrails in the sky? They can't say they

are dumping expensive jet fuel all over the place anymore

like it grows on trees, or something.

Actually dumped jet fuel is better than Barium (Chemtrails)

Too bad that ain't what it is. What about the solar powered

satanic cult disruptor? Whan are they coming out with that?

I'll take 3, tune them to DC.

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, jengsett <jengsett@...> wrote:

From: jengsett <jengsett@...>
Subject: [freenergy] Solar Powered Plane Soon Be On Trial
To: freenergy@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:16 AM

The first solar-powered plane will soon be on trial with the prototype in the water base near Zurich next week. Read more at http://earthalterna te.blogspot. com/

Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (2)

#460

From: "jengsett" <jengsett@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:16 pm
Subject: Solar Powered Plane Soon Be On Trial

jengsett

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The first solar-powered plane will soon be on trial with the prototype in the water base near Zurich next week. Read more at http://earthalternate.blogspot.com/

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#459

From: "jengsett" <jengsett@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 12:06 am
Subject: Electric Cars Recharge Available In Major UK Supermarkets

jengsett

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Now in every major supermarket in UK has been installed a network of electric car recharging points outside the stores.So that consumers can recharge their electric car while shopping. Read more at http://earthalternate.blogspot.com/