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Subject: [paulloeb-articles] If you had any experience with political burnout
during the Bush years or since the last election I'd love to hear for my Soul of
a Citizen update


As you probably know, I’m doing a major update of my Soul
of a Citizenbook on citizen involvement, which should be out in
February. I’ve been revising every section and practically every page, adding
new profiles, and updating it for our current time. I’m really excited about
it.

I’m currently finishing the chapter on Burnout, and realized
that the experiences of the main people I interviewed on the subject—a group
of
long-time sixties activists who burned out in the late Clinton era—just
don’t
seem as relevant any more. I have lots of thoughts on what’s happened since,
and a few stories and perspectives, but could definitely use more, and I
thought I’d approach you and the others on my email list.

So here’s what would be helpful: If you were engaged in any
issues, or in major community involvement during the Bush years, but then hit a
wall and burned out, I’d love to know how and why. Same thing if you were
involved during that period, or in the 2008 election, but haven’t been able to
act as much as you wanted since.


Obviously all of burn out for brief periods, ie after the
2004 election, but I’m interested in an experience that really knocked you out
for longer, and why…whether from exhaustion, defeat, despair, isolation,
political or economic costs that you paid, a sense of betrayal or
disappointments from leaders or colleagues you trusted, whatever it happened to
be. And if you emerged from it, you definitely mention how you did that.

I’m interested in your personal experience and feelings, so
whether in a few sentences, or several paragraphs, recounting what happened or
how you felt from your perspective would be very helpful.


And of course let me know who you are, as in a student from
Minnesota, a teacher from New Jersey, a long-time hunger activist from
California.  Just enough so you aren’t completely abstract to whoever
reads it.

Thanks very much. I’m finishing this chapter now, under a
very tight deadline, so if you do want to respond, just put your thoughts down,
don’t worry about getting them perfect.

Thanks
Paul Loeb


PS—Because I’ve been so deep into the book revision, I
haven’t been writing articles, but did do one very brief piece during the
Sotomayor hearings,
I focus on how lead Republican questioner Jeff Sessions was
himself rejected for a federal court seat after calling the NAACP
"un-American" because it "forced civil rights down the throats
of people." And calling a white attorney a "disgrace to his
race" for litigating voting rights cases on behalf of African Americans.
If you’re curious, I’ve linked to the piece here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-loeb/the-sotomayor-hearings--b_b_234102.html


And if anyone’s interested in bringing me in or hearing me
speak, I’ll be in Baton Rouge LA, Frostburg, MD (Between Morgantown WV,
Washington DC & Baltimore),  Seattle, Des Moines IA, Kennesaw GA (near
Atlanta), and Bennington VT, with some other dates being explored.  Will
also be touring to some major media markets around the book release next
spring, but haven’t yet worked that out. Schedule at
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Does anyone know which design won? I wish daegu and hitachi would post
more/better updates. =)


--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Greg & Christine Vassilakos"
<greg_christine@...> wrote:
>
> For those of you who are not already aware, a monorail is being built
> in Daegu, South Korea that is similar to the system that Cascadia
> proposed for Seattle. The line is 24 km (14.9 miles) long and will
> feature 3-car versions of the Hitachi trains that Cascadia had proposed
> for Seattle. The cost is quoted as $333 million USD; however, I suspect
> that this is just the cost for Hitachi's portion of the project. A
> couple of articles on the system can be found at the following links:
>
> http://www.hitachi-rail.com/rail_now/hot_topics/2008/081002/index.html
>
> http://blog.galbijim.com/2008/09/daegu-announces-its-3rd-subwayi-mean-
> monorail-by-2014/
>
> Tiny URL versions:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5mjgys
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4wrmqa
>

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July 15 2009, 7:17 PM EDT

The chain of events leading to a fatal crash on Walt Disney World's monorail
system was triggered by an employee who mistakenly radioed others that he had
activated a track switch, according to multiple people familiar with details of
the accident's investigation.

The complete article can be viewed at:
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July 8 2009, 9:06 PM EDT

Moments before another train traveling backward slammed into the front of his
vehicle and killed him, Walt Disney World monorail pilot Austin Wuennenberg
apparently attempted to avoid the collision by throwing his train into reverse,
according to the federal agency investigating the crash.

The complete article can be viewed at:
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--- In BalancedTransportationforSeattle@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Schneider
<jbs@...> wrote:

An American (Seattle) company competed for this job against some big
boys from Asia, and won.

Urbanaut build pictures from Incheon:
http://www.urbanaut.com/Projects%20and%20Feasibility%20Studies.htm



- Jerry Schneider -
      Innovative Transportation Technologies
        http://faculty.washington.edu/jbs/itrans

Excerpt:

Most interesting is news that monorail research still lives in the Pacific
Northwest. There's a report from the Missoulian in November saying that
scientists at the Montana Technology Enterprise Center are working on a
futuristic monorail "spider web" system

     Imagine getting out of bed, walking outside and climbing into a
hydrogen-powered magnetized monorail pod, only to be shot 150 miles
per hour down a track to your destination. No need for cars, gasoline
or even concentration...

     Their personal rapid transit system would run down arterial streets
and interstates, with pods waiting at each station to take individuals
to their destinations, so there would be no wait and each pod would go
directly to the desired stop.

The project is funded with a grant from the U.S Department of
Transportation. The secret ingredient is hydrogen power:

     On Friday, the team of researchers gave a public demonstration of
their monorail system on a working model about a fifth of the size of
a real monorail.

     The pod hangs down from an enclosed track, and a rack above the pod
hovers atop opposing magnets. When it passes through a gate, the motor
senses its presence and releases an electrically charged magnetic
pulse, powered by hydrogen fuel cells, which then pushes the car
along.

     "Hydrogen is the answer," said R. Paul Williamson, the team's leader.
"It's the only thing we have enough supply of to solve our energy
needs in the United States or the world." Williamson said the monorail
would cost about $1 million per mile.

Seattle decided not to build the Green Line, but the Montana researchers
expect "to have a full-size monorail by the end of their four-year grant
period, which they are now halfway through," says the paper.

Crosscut: Monorails: the idea that will not die
http://crosscut.com/2009/01/06/mossback/18740/

Of course, 150 mph speeds need not be required; 40 mph for a nonstop
public transit system seems quite adequate for many urban environments,
with faster speeds possible in less dense areas; at nearly constant speed
it would be faster than cars for most trips, to say nothing of
large-vehicle public transit.

Either way, the idea of a Personal Rapid Transit system, with or without
the maglev component used in this Montana application, seems particularly
well-suited for many urban applications: cost-effective,
energy-superefficient, and fast, safe, and convenient enough to entice
people from their cars.

Note that it would also operate quite well in inclement weather; a
suspended system like this would be virtually immune to snow, ice, and
flooding, and less vulnerable to power outages due to its low power
consumption. Even supported systems with linear electric motors like
Vancouver's SkyTrain, which do not rely on the friction between wheels and
rails or roadway for propulsion and braking, or other systems which use
grated guideways that snow would mostly fall right through, would be
relatively unaffected.

Similar differences exist between the light rail vehicles used in
different cities.  The Kinkisharyo vehicles used in San Jose, northern
New Jersey (Hudson-Bergen Line), Seattle, and Phoenix are all designed
for the same platform height and clearances, yet the car bodies are
different.  These can be compared at the following link:

http://www.kinkisharyo-usa.com/

The Siemens SD160 vehicles used in Calgary have different noses than
the same vehicles used in Edmonton and the Siemens SD70 vehicles used
in Houston have different noses than the same vehicles used in
Charlotte.  The SD70 vehicles used in Portland have a further
difference in that they have cabs at just one end.

Once you get past the car bodies, you find further differences.  The
Kinkisharyo light rail vehicles used in Seattle operate at 1500 VDC
whereas most other light rail and streetcar systems operate at between
600 VDC and 750 VDC.  Los Angeles has three light rail lines that are
all designed for the same platform height and clearances, yet the
lines don't share trains because each line has a different signaling
system.  Los Angeles is attempting to rectify this by ordering trains
equipped with all three signaling systems.


--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Daren D" <cooldster@...>
wrote:
>
> I agree on the "type" of train that makes them similar (which is
> Large, Medium/Standard, & Small). But I'm talking about the actual
> design.
>
> For example, Tokyo's Type 2000 train bodies are more sleek and have a
> subtle curve to the windshield. The Palm trains have noses that are
> more stretched out (or pointed). Same categorized trains, but no
> Large, Standard, or Small trainsets from different systems are
> exactly alike.
>
> I hope that makes sense. And I feel this is a smart choice on the
> projects' part because if more than 1 system shared the exact design,
> that wouldn't be very appealing. I don't imagine any 2 mass transit
> train systems in existence today have the exact same design.
>
> Speaking of the similar trains proposed from Cascadia, I sure hope
> they didn't plan on using purple! Seattle = blue, teal, aqua, and
> green!
>
> Daren
>
> P.S. Daegu's Official Page is very interesting. I hope Asia in
> general would stop mixing up monorail with light rail! Some personal
> vids on Youtube show the Chongqing monorail but are titled "light
> rail."
>
>
> --- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Greg & Christine
> Vassilakos" <greg_christine@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Daren D" <cooldster@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've never heard/seen of any 2 cities having potentially the same
> > > train sets. All the ones Hitachi has made are different for every
> > > city/system.
> > >
> >
> > Several cities use the same Hitachi Large Type monorail trains
> > including Tama, Kitakyushu, Osaka, and Chongqing.  Daegu, Tokyo
> > Disnyland, and the Palm Monorail in Dubai will all use the Hitachi
> > Standard Type monorail trains.  Shonan and Chiba use the same
> > Mitsubishi suspended monorail trains.
> >
>

The Cascadia proposal called for an initial delivery of 13 trains of
two cars each.


--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Mitch Gitman"
<mgitman@...> wrote:
>
> Beautiful pictures. Does anyone recall now how many cars the trains
were in
> the original Cascadia proposal?
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Greg & Christine Vassilakos <
> greg_christine@...> wrote:
>
> >   I'm posting this here because the trains being used in Dubai are
three-
> > car versions of the trains that Cascadia proposed for Seattle:
> >
> > http://i33.tinypic.com/wjwhkw.jpg
> >
> > http://i35.tinypic.com/ea5ncx.jpg
> >
> > http://i37.tinypic.com/b5gt3r.jpg
> >
> > http://i38.tinypic.com/28btjlk.jpg
> >
> > The photos had been posted in a thread on Skyscrapercity forums. The
> > following is the address for the thread posted:
> >
> > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=551820
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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I agree on the "type" of train that makes them similar (which is
Large, Medium/Standard, & Small). But I'm talking about the actual
design.

For example, Tokyo's Type 2000 train bodies are more sleek and have a
subtle curve to the windshield. The Palm trains have noses that are
more stretched out (or pointed). Same categorized trains, but no
Large, Standard, or Small trainsets from different systems are
exactly alike.

I hope that makes sense. And I feel this is a smart choice on the
projects' part because if more than 1 system shared the exact design,
that wouldn't be very appealing. I don't imagine any 2 mass transit
train systems in existence today have the exact same design.

Speaking of the similar trains proposed from Cascadia, I sure hope
they didn't plan on using purple! Seattle = blue, teal, aqua, and
green!

Daren

P.S. Daegu's Official Page is very interesting. I hope Asia in
general would stop mixing up monorail with light rail! Some personal
vids on Youtube show the Chongqing monorail but are titled "light
rail."


--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Greg & Christine
Vassilakos" <greg_christine@...> wrote:
>
> --- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Daren D" <cooldster@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've never heard/seen of any 2 cities having potentially the same
> > train sets. All the ones Hitachi has made are different for every
> > city/system.
> >
>
> Several cities use the same Hitachi Large Type monorail trains
> including Tama, Kitakyushu, Osaka, and Chongqing.  Daegu, Tokyo
> Disnyland, and the Palm Monorail in Dubai will all use the Hitachi
> Standard Type monorail trains.  Shonan and Chiba use the same
> Mitsubishi suspended monorail trains.
>

Beautiful pictures. Does anyone recall now how many cars the trains were in
the original Cascadia proposal?

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Greg & Christine Vassilakos <
greg_christine@...> wrote:

>   I'm posting this here because the trains being used in Dubai are three-
> car versions of the trains that Cascadia proposed for Seattle:
>
> http://i33.tinypic.com/wjwhkw.jpg
>
> http://i35.tinypic.com/ea5ncx.jpg
>
> http://i37.tinypic.com/b5gt3r.jpg
>
> http://i38.tinypic.com/28btjlk.jpg
>
> The photos had been posted in a thread on Skyscrapercity forums. The
> following is the address for the thread posted:
>
> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=551820
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Daren D" <cooldster@...>
wrote:
>
> I've never heard/seen of any 2 cities having potentially the same
> train sets. All the ones Hitachi has made are different for every
> city/system.
>

Several cities use the same Hitachi Large Type monorail trains
including Tama, Kitakyushu, Osaka, and Chongqing.  Daegu, Tokyo
Disnyland, and the Palm Monorail in Dubai will all use the Hitachi
Standard Type monorail trains.  Shonan and Chiba use the same
Mitsubishi suspended monorail trains.

For those of you who are not already aware, a monorail is being built
in Daegu, South Korea that is similar to the system that Cascadia
proposed for Seattle. The line is 24 km (14.9 miles) long and will
feature 3-car versions of the Hitachi trains that Cascadia had proposed
for Seattle. The cost is quoted as $333 million USD; however, I suspect
that this is just the cost for Hitachi's portion of the project. A
couple of articles on the system can be found at the following links:

http://www.hitachi-rail.com/rail_now/hot_topics/2008/081002/index.html

http://blog.galbijim.com/2008/09/daegu-announces-its-3rd-subwayi-mean-
monorail-by-2014/

Tiny URL versions:

http://tinyurl.com/5mjgys

http://tinyurl.com/4wrmqa

What do you guys think of an "express" monorail system? It would link
West Seattle with Downtown. I think this would be a smart decision
because their commutes will suffer (and travelling, in general, to NW
Seattle), once the Alaskan Way viaduct shuts down for several years.

All I'm thinking it would need is some commotion risen, especially
since they were one of the strongest supporters during the ETC & SMP.
Their interest has just gone dormant and I believe it can be renewed.


P.S. Adding "express" to it may help it sell better. No stops between
Alki and the stadiums.

I've never heard/seen of any 2 cities having potentially the same
train sets. All the ones Hitachi has made are different for every
city/system.


--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Greg & Christine
Vassilakos" <greg_christine@...> wrote:
>
> I'm posting this here because the trains being used in Dubai are
three-
> car versions of the trains that Cascadia proposed for Seattle:
>
> http://i33.tinypic.com/wjwhkw.jpg
>
> http://i35.tinypic.com/ea5ncx.jpg
>
> http://i37.tinypic.com/b5gt3r.jpg
>
> http://i38.tinypic.com/28btjlk.jpg
>
> The photos had been posted in a thread on Skyscrapercity forums.
The
> following is the address for the thread posted:
>
> http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=551820
>

I'm posting this here because the trains being used in Dubai are three-
car versions of the trains that Cascadia proposed for Seattle:

http://i33.tinypic.com/wjwhkw.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/ea5ncx.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/b5gt3r.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/28btjlk.jpg

The photos had been posted in a thread on Skyscrapercity forums.  The
following is the address for the thread posted:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=551820

Location: Dubai, UAE
When: Spring 2009
What: First ever global conference on the latest in Monorail technology.

http://www.monorailex.com/band.html/index.html

I hope to make it and maybe walk around the city.

what is the cost to build an inexpensive monorail per mile?

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com
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Roger (and Will),

You may want to check Sound Transit's website on this, since it's right
there. Excerpt:

Innovation Fund

Since we live in an age of continual change, Sound Move provides
flexibility to consider new ideas, services and technology innovations.

The RTA will evaluate and fund innovative ways to provide transit service,
reduce dependency on single-occupancy vehicles, improve public
transportation's cost-effectiveness, and better respond to customer needs.
The RTA will evaluate technological innovations (alternative fuels and
propulsion systems, quieter equipment, lighter vehicles, energy efficient
engines, and ways to improve passenger comfort) and ways to reduce impacts
on the environment. The RTA will also explore incentives and programs to
encourage people to use regional transit more.

The RTA will work with the community and the private sector to take part
in a demonstration of personal rapid transit (PRT) or other technologies.
PRT is an experimental type of automated transit consisting of small cars
running on a guideway carrying two to six passengers per car. The
demonstration could show how PRT or other new technologies could be
appropriate investments in future transit system phases.

http://www.soundtransit.org/x2218.xml

--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "rdpence03" <rpence@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, my memory must be getting rusty. I don't remember that "we voted
to fund and
> build a demonstration PRT system back in 1996, in the...Sound Move
vote..."  Do you have
> a cite, where in the plan that commitment was made?
>
> --- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "John C. Todd, Jr."
<johntodd@> wrote:
> >
> > Excerpt:
> >
> > ITHACA, New York (AP)  -- The thought of a driverless, computer-guided
car
> > transporting people where they want to go on demand is a futuristic
notion
> > to some.
> >
> > To Jacob Roberts, podcars -- or PRTs, for personal rapid transit --
> > represent an important component in the here-and-now of transportation.
> >
> > "It's time we design cities for the human, not for the automobile," said
> > Roberts, president of Connect Ithaca, a group of planning and building
> > professionals, activists and students committed to making this upstate
New
> > York college town the first podcar community in the United States.
> >
> > "In the podcar ... it creates the perfect blend between the privacy and
> > autonomy of the automobile with the public transportation aspect and, of
> > course, it uses clean energy," Roberts said.
> >
> > With the oil crisis reaching a zenith and federal lawmakers ready to
begin
> > fashioning a new national transportation bill for 2010, Roberts and his
> > colleagues think the future is now for podcars -- electric, automated,
> > lightweight vehicles that ride on their own network separate from other
> > traffic.
> >
> > Unlike mass transit, podcars carry two to 10 passengers, giving travelers
> > the freedom and privacy of their own car while reducing the use of fossil
> > fuels, reducing traffic congestion and freeing up space now
monopolized by
> > parking.
> >
> > At stations located every block or every half-mile, depending on the
need,
> > a rider enters a destination on a computerized pad, and a car would take
> > the person nonstop to the location. Stations would have slanted pull-in
> > bays so that some cars could stop for passengers, while others could
> > continue unimpeded on the main course.
> >
> > "It works almost like an elevator, but horizontally," said Roberts,
adding
> > podcar travel would be safer than automobile travel.
> >
> > The podcar is not entirely new. A limited version with larger cars
> > carrying up to 15 passengers was built in 1975 in Morgantown, West
> > Virginia, and still transports West Virginia University students.
> >
> > Next year, Heathrow Airport outside London will unveil a pilot podcar
> > system to ferry air travelers on the ground. Companies in Sweden, Poland
> > and Korea are already operating full-scale test tracks to demonstrate the
> > feasibility. Designers are planning a podcar network for Masdar City,
> > outside Abu Dhabi, which is being built as the world's first zero-carbon,
> > zero-waste city.
> >
> > Meanwhile, more than a dozen cities in Sweden are planning podcar systems
> > as part of the country's commitment to be fossil-fuel-free by 2020, said
> > Hans Lindqvist, a councilman from Varmdo, Sweden, and chairman of
Kompass,
> > an association of groups and municipalities behind the Swedish
initiative.
> >
> > "Today's transportation system is reaching a dead end," said Lindqvist, a
> > former member of the European parliament.
> >
> > Cars have dominated the cityscape for nearly a century, taking up
valuable
> > space while polluting the air, said Magnus Hunhammar, chief executive
> > officer of the Stockholm-based Institute for Sustainable Transportation,
> > the world's leading center on podcar technology.
> >
> > CNN: City hopes to shuttle people in futuristic 'podcars'
> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/13/podcar.city.ap/index.html
> >
> > Hey, Seattle, remember when we voted to fund and build a demonstration
PRT
> > system back in 1996, in the same Sound Move vote that created Sound
> > Transit and built Central Link Light Rail?
> >
> > Such a demonstration system would be small, useful, and dirt-cheap, so
why
> > hasn't our leadership (including Sound Transit) done doodly-squat about
> > that part of the Sound Move vote yet? As an extra added bonus, with so
> > much software and engineering talent (and at least four PRT companies
> > either based in our area or having significant representation here),
> > Seattle could take a leadership role in an emerging market poised to
> > skyrocket when the London Heathrow PRT system opens to the public next
> > year.
> >
> > Also note highly favorable PRT articles in the New York Times and Los
> > Angeles Times from last month:
> >
> > The New York Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Ithaca
Takes
> > a Hard Look at Pod Cars
> >
>
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
751
> >
> > The Los Angeles Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Seeding
> > the future with 'podcars'
> >
>
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
758
> >
>

If Sound Transit Prop 1 wins on November 4th, ST starts collecting two
million dollars per day in taxes.

If Sound Transit Prop 1 loses on November 4th, ST continues to collect
one million dollars per day in taxes.

I've posted a side-by-side comparison of the two scenarios at
http://www.bettertransport.info/pitf/SoundTransit'sPlanB.htm
<http://www.bettertransport.info/pitf/SoundTransit'sPlanB.htm>

Take your pick, and vote!

John Niles

P.S.   Divide the Prop 1 Yes metric of $69 tanks of gas into the first
year of Sound Transit's additional tax take of $373 million and you get
5.4 million tanks of gas.  How does that come out to be an average of
one tank per adult in the first year?   Is the region that populated?
Another example of Sound Transit math.

P.P.S. And don't forget that the first million dollars per day ST is
already collecting pays for that light rail train to the airport and all
the other services provided to date that have brought on bragging about
Sound Transit's 14 million boardings in all of 2007 after 11 years of
effort.   Weekday travel on all modes around Puget Sound is about 11
million one-way trips per day.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I definitely don't recall that.

I think that's what we call ... a LIE.

Will

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:22:49 -0700, rdpence03 <rpence@...>
wrote:

> Hmmm, my memory must be getting rusty. I don't remember that "we voted
> to fund and
> build a demonstration PRT system back in 1996, in the...Sound Move
> vote..."  Do you have
> a cite, where in the plan that commitment was made?
>
> --- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "John C. Todd, Jr."
> <johntodd@...> wrote:
>>
>> Excerpt:
>>
>> ITHACA, New York (AP)  -- The thought of a driverless, computer-guided
>> car
>> transporting people where they want to go on demand is a futuristic
>> notion
>> to some.
>>
>> To Jacob Roberts, podcars -- or PRTs, for personal rapid transit --
>> represent an important component in the here-and-now of transportation.
>>
>> "It's time we design cities for the human, not for the automobile," said
>> Roberts, president of Connect Ithaca, a group of planning and building
>> professionals, activists and students committed to making this upstate
>> New
>> York college town the first podcar community in the United States.
>>
>> "In the podcar ... it creates the perfect blend between the privacy and
>> autonomy of the automobile with the public transportation aspect and, of
>> course, it uses clean energy," Roberts said.
>>
>> With the oil crisis reaching a zenith and federal lawmakers ready to
>> begin
>> fashioning a new national transportation bill for 2010, Roberts and his
>> colleagues think the future is now for podcars -- electric, automated,
>> lightweight vehicles that ride on their own network separate from other
>> traffic.
>>
>> Unlike mass transit, podcars carry two to 10 passengers, giving
>> travelers
>> the freedom and privacy of their own car while reducing the use of
>> fossil
>> fuels, reducing traffic congestion and freeing up space now monopolized
>> by
>> parking.
>>
>> At stations located every block or every half-mile, depending on the
>> need,
>> a rider enters a destination on a computerized pad, and a car would take
>> the person nonstop to the location. Stations would have slanted pull-in
>> bays so that some cars could stop for passengers, while others could
>> continue unimpeded on the main course.
>>
>> "It works almost like an elevator, but horizontally," said Roberts,
>> adding
>> podcar travel would be safer than automobile travel.
>>
>> The podcar is not entirely new. A limited version with larger cars
>> carrying up to 15 passengers was built in 1975 in Morgantown, West
>> Virginia, and still transports West Virginia University students.
>>
>> Next year, Heathrow Airport outside London will unveil a pilot podcar
>> system to ferry air travelers on the ground. Companies in Sweden, Poland
>> and Korea are already operating full-scale test tracks to demonstrate
>> the
>> feasibility. Designers are planning a podcar network for Masdar City,
>> outside Abu Dhabi, which is being built as the world's first
>> zero-carbon,
>> zero-waste city.
>>
>> Meanwhile, more than a dozen cities in Sweden are planning podcar
>> systems
>> as part of the country's commitment to be fossil-fuel-free by 2020, said
>> Hans Lindqvist, a councilman from Varmdo, Sweden, and chairman of
>> Kompass,
>> an association of groups and municipalities behind the Swedish
>> initiative.
>>
>> "Today's transportation system is reaching a dead end," said Lindqvist,
>> a
>> former member of the European parliament.
>>
>> Cars have dominated the cityscape for nearly a century, taking up
>> valuable
>> space while polluting the air, said Magnus Hunhammar, chief executive
>> officer of the Stockholm-based Institute for Sustainable Transportation,
>> the world's leading center on podcar technology.
>>
>> CNN: City hopes to shuttle people in futuristic 'podcars'
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/13/podcar.city.ap/index.html
>>
>> Hey, Seattle, remember when we voted to fund and build a demonstration
>> PRT
>> system back in 1996, in the same Sound Move vote that created Sound
>> Transit and built Central Link Light Rail?
>>
>> Such a demonstration system would be small, useful, and dirt-cheap, so
>> why
>> hasn't our leadership (including Sound Transit) done doodly-squat about
>> that part of the Sound Move vote yet? As an extra added bonus, with so
>> much software and engineering talent (and at least four PRT companies
>> either based in our area or having significant representation here),
>> Seattle could take a leadership role in an emerging market poised to
>> skyrocket when the London Heathrow PRT system opens to the public next
>> year.
>>
>> Also note highly favorable PRT articles in the New York Times and Los
>> Angeles Times from last month:
>>
>> The New York Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Ithaca
>> Takes
>> a Hard Look at Pod Cars
>>
>
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
751
>>
>> The Los Angeles Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Seeding
>> the future with 'podcars'
>>
>
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
758
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Hmmm, my memory must be getting rusty. I don't remember that "we voted to fund
and
build a demonstration PRT system back in 1996, in the...Sound Move vote..."  Do
you have
a cite, where in the plan that commitment was made?

--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "John C. Todd, Jr." <johntodd@...>
wrote:
>
> Excerpt:
>
> ITHACA, New York (AP)  -- The thought of a driverless, computer-guided car
> transporting people where they want to go on demand is a futuristic notion
> to some.
>
> To Jacob Roberts, podcars -- or PRTs, for personal rapid transit --
> represent an important component in the here-and-now of transportation.
>
> "It's time we design cities for the human, not for the automobile," said
> Roberts, president of Connect Ithaca, a group of planning and building
> professionals, activists and students committed to making this upstate New
> York college town the first podcar community in the United States.
>
> "In the podcar ... it creates the perfect blend between the privacy and
> autonomy of the automobile with the public transportation aspect and, of
> course, it uses clean energy," Roberts said.
>
> With the oil crisis reaching a zenith and federal lawmakers ready to begin
> fashioning a new national transportation bill for 2010, Roberts and his
> colleagues think the future is now for podcars -- electric, automated,
> lightweight vehicles that ride on their own network separate from other
> traffic.
>
> Unlike mass transit, podcars carry two to 10 passengers, giving travelers
> the freedom and privacy of their own car while reducing the use of fossil
> fuels, reducing traffic congestion and freeing up space now monopolized by
> parking.
>
> At stations located every block or every half-mile, depending on the need,
> a rider enters a destination on a computerized pad, and a car would take
> the person nonstop to the location. Stations would have slanted pull-in
> bays so that some cars could stop for passengers, while others could
> continue unimpeded on the main course.
>
> "It works almost like an elevator, but horizontally," said Roberts, adding
> podcar travel would be safer than automobile travel.
>
> The podcar is not entirely new. A limited version with larger cars
> carrying up to 15 passengers was built in 1975 in Morgantown, West
> Virginia, and still transports West Virginia University students.
>
> Next year, Heathrow Airport outside London will unveil a pilot podcar
> system to ferry air travelers on the ground. Companies in Sweden, Poland
> and Korea are already operating full-scale test tracks to demonstrate the
> feasibility. Designers are planning a podcar network for Masdar City,
> outside Abu Dhabi, which is being built as the world's first zero-carbon,
> zero-waste city.
>
> Meanwhile, more than a dozen cities in Sweden are planning podcar systems
> as part of the country's commitment to be fossil-fuel-free by 2020, said
> Hans Lindqvist, a councilman from Varmdo, Sweden, and chairman of Kompass,
> an association of groups and municipalities behind the Swedish initiative.
>
> "Today's transportation system is reaching a dead end," said Lindqvist, a
> former member of the European parliament.
>
> Cars have dominated the cityscape for nearly a century, taking up valuable
> space while polluting the air, said Magnus Hunhammar, chief executive
> officer of the Stockholm-based Institute for Sustainable Transportation,
> the world's leading center on podcar technology.
>
> CNN: City hopes to shuttle people in futuristic 'podcars'
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/13/podcar.city.ap/index.html
>
> Hey, Seattle, remember when we voted to fund and build a demonstration PRT
> system back in 1996, in the same Sound Move vote that created Sound
> Transit and built Central Link Light Rail?
>
> Such a demonstration system would be small, useful, and dirt-cheap, so why
> hasn't our leadership (including Sound Transit) done doodly-squat about
> that part of the Sound Move vote yet? As an extra added bonus, with so
> much software and engineering talent (and at least four PRT companies
> either based in our area or having significant representation here),
> Seattle could take a leadership role in an emerging market poised to
> skyrocket when the London Heathrow PRT system opens to the public next
> year.
>
> Also note highly favorable PRT articles in the New York Times and Los
> Angeles Times from last month:
>
> The New York Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Ithaca Takes
> a Hard Look at Pod Cars
>
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
751
>
> The Los Angeles Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Seeding
> the future with 'podcars'
>
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
758
>

Excerpt:

ITHACA, New York (AP)  -- The thought of a driverless, computer-guided car
transporting people where they want to go on demand is a futuristic notion
to some.

To Jacob Roberts, podcars -- or PRTs, for personal rapid transit --
represent an important component in the here-and-now of transportation.

"It's time we design cities for the human, not for the automobile," said
Roberts, president of Connect Ithaca, a group of planning and building
professionals, activists and students committed to making this upstate New
York college town the first podcar community in the United States.

"In the podcar ... it creates the perfect blend between the privacy and
autonomy of the automobile with the public transportation aspect and, of
course, it uses clean energy," Roberts said.

With the oil crisis reaching a zenith and federal lawmakers ready to begin
fashioning a new national transportation bill for 2010, Roberts and his
colleagues think the future is now for podcars -- electric, automated,
lightweight vehicles that ride on their own network separate from other
traffic.

Unlike mass transit, podcars carry two to 10 passengers, giving travelers
the freedom and privacy of their own car while reducing the use of fossil
fuels, reducing traffic congestion and freeing up space now monopolized by
parking.

At stations located every block or every half-mile, depending on the need,
a rider enters a destination on a computerized pad, and a car would take
the person nonstop to the location. Stations would have slanted pull-in
bays so that some cars could stop for passengers, while others could
continue unimpeded on the main course.

"It works almost like an elevator, but horizontally," said Roberts, adding
podcar travel would be safer than automobile travel.

The podcar is not entirely new. A limited version with larger cars
carrying up to 15 passengers was built in 1975 in Morgantown, West
Virginia, and still transports West Virginia University students.

Next year, Heathrow Airport outside London will unveil a pilot podcar
system to ferry air travelers on the ground. Companies in Sweden, Poland
and Korea are already operating full-scale test tracks to demonstrate the
feasibility. Designers are planning a podcar network for Masdar City,
outside Abu Dhabi, which is being built as the world's first zero-carbon,
zero-waste city.

Meanwhile, more than a dozen cities in Sweden are planning podcar systems
as part of the country's commitment to be fossil-fuel-free by 2020, said
Hans Lindqvist, a councilman from Varmdo, Sweden, and chairman of Kompass,
an association of groups and municipalities behind the Swedish initiative.

"Today's transportation system is reaching a dead end," said Lindqvist, a
former member of the European parliament.

Cars have dominated the cityscape for nearly a century, taking up valuable
space while polluting the air, said Magnus Hunhammar, chief executive
officer of the Stockholm-based Institute for Sustainable Transportation,
the world's leading center on podcar technology.

CNN: City hopes to shuttle people in futuristic 'podcars'
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/10/13/podcar.city.ap/index.html

Hey, Seattle, remember when we voted to fund and build a demonstration PRT
system back in 1996, in the same Sound Move vote that created Sound
Transit and built Central Link Light Rail?

Such a demonstration system would be small, useful, and dirt-cheap, so why
hasn't our leadership (including Sound Transit) done doodly-squat about
that part of the Sound Move vote yet? As an extra added bonus, with so
much software and engineering talent (and at least four PRT companies
either based in our area or having significant representation here),
Seattle could take a leadership role in an emerging market poised to
skyrocket when the London Heathrow PRT system opens to the public next
year.

Also note highly favorable PRT articles in the New York Times and Los
Angeles Times from last month:

The New York Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Ithaca Takes
a Hard Look at Pod Cars
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
751

The Los Angeles Times (via Balanced Transportation for Seattle): Seeding
the future with 'podcars'
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/BalancedTransportationforSeattle/message/3\
758

I was split about them. WaMu was/is a huge long-time local fixture in
Seattle, as we all probably know in Seattle's history. Then of course,
we liked monorail and they didn't...


--- In friendsofthemonorail@yahoogroups.com, "Greg & Christine
Vassilakos" <greg_christine@...> wrote:
>
> For the past few months, I've been watching a steady stream of
stories
> about financial distress at WaMu, which was one of the principal foes
> of the monorail.  The financial news in the United States these days
is
> generally very distressing, but I have to admit a tinge of glee when
I
> heard about the collapse of WaMu.
>

For the past few months, I've been watching a steady stream of stories
about financial distress at WaMu, which was one of the principal foes
of the monorail.  The financial news in the United States these days is
generally very distressing, but I have to admit a tinge of glee when I
heard about the collapse of WaMu.

I remember seeing somewhere that one of our former mayors during the
1970's had supported a SCM expansion to the airport. Anyone know
details? Ugh, it's one of those "I remember it!" but "I don't remember
what it looked like or where it was from!"

Daren

Does anyone know break-down issues of the monorail since it opened? I'm
wondering if the SCM ran extremely well up until that fire a few years
ago. Then occasionally another issue sprung up (the pinch crash, the
faulty valve, etc.). It's pretty ironic that now that we're in the 21st
century, our monorail has started to experience some bad headaches.

You think the maintenance budget and/or Council Priorities have
anything to do with it? I mean, this thing is one of our landmarks!