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An open letter to the Frontier dev community, such as it is   Message List  
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Okay the last message got out okay.

First, I'd like to apologize for using the term "drama queens" to
describe the people who were lobbying UserLand to do something
related to this project. It was over the top. I'm sorry I said it.

I really want to get something going here, and going back to UserLand
was not going to help that. The way to go is to start slowly and get
some releases out, improve the kernel in small ways, get some
successes under our belt, learn from them, and then do it again.

Then, if you want, once there's some new software out there, it makes
sense to offer it to EVERYONE to distribute, not just UserLand. What
about a Wordpress that runs in Frontier? What about a Frontier that
runs on an Archos music device? I want to think big, expansive.
Pressuring Scott Young, who already has a lot on his plate, is
predictable, even understandable, but it is going in the wrong
direction.

Anyway, I'm trying to get a new outliner released, one based on the
open source release, with very minor cosmetic changes. There's a
serious need for this tool in the podcast community, which has built
a very rich and interesting directory using OPML. Only a few of the
people have an outliner. I want to give one to everyone who wants
one, and foster a community of users. Would you help me do this?

Dave






Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:28 pm

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Okay the last message got out okay. First, I'd like to apologize for using the term "drama queens" to describe the people who were lobbying UserLand to do...
Dave Winer
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All, I¹ve been watching this group since January I think. My interest was twofold: I wanted to see how an open source community starts, and I was very...
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Mar 16, 2005
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John, thanks for posting. I'd like to encourage others to respond, because as I've said previously, it's important that we move towards new leadership. I want...
Dave Winer
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... I responded (to your last message, Dave) on my own site. Mostly just thinking out loud. Seth <http://www.truerwords.net/>...
Seth Dillingham
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Seth, at least at this moment, your site seems to be down. Might be my end, but I'm having no problem with the rest of the internet....
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... Grr. Darn Windows Server was shutting itself down, and taking all of my business clients' sites with it, too. Problem is fixed, the site is back up. The...
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... Now, having read your post, I'd like to add one thing -- I can't speak for anyone else, but the fact that my checkins and posts have been non-existant for...
David Brown
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Mar 16, 2005
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... Internal testing at UserLand has determined that the file.modified kernel verb is a major culprit, using 100% of the CPU while doing it's duty. The...
Steve Kirks
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Mar 16, 2005
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Steve, all verbs use 100 percent of the CPU while they're running. Seriously. The question is how many times they're called. In the case of upstreaming, it was...
Dave Winer
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... I meant to say this yesterday: "Dave, that was brilliant phrasing." Optimizing is never about making a process use less cpu, it's about making it run for...
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:07:02 -0500, Seth Dillingham ... My issue with CPU usage on Radio. I'll leave that discussion off this list as Radio's behavior when...
Steve Kirks
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... Since I'm listed partially as an instigator in our last round of discussions, I'm going to reply. First, Steve, you have no idea how thrilled I am that...
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