Y'all,

Is this list still on? ;)  I hope so!

Irena and I just spoke on the phone about an upcoming direct mail project.
Some design assistance will be necessary.  Lou's name came up (I think
you're on this list, right?) but I thought I'd check and see who would be
the best person / people to work on that.  Anyone here care to speak up?

I suspect the project will entail appealing layout and design of a 4-6 page
(maybe 11x17 folded) appeal to donors and participants.  It won't be solely
an appeal for money, but mostly.  The text content will be created ahead of
time.  Graphics / photos / etc will be the 'artist' job.  I suspect most of
that content can come from stock stuff we already have.

Anyone up to the task?

Thanks!

V-

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Varrin Swearingen              varrin@...
http://freestateproject.org  Liberty in our Lifetime
MD-11 First Officer                    World Airways
Drums & Percussion                       Daniel 12:4
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Hi.  I've posted the draft PorcFest flyer to be handed out at NHLF
(and hopefully be the basis for our general purpose PorcFest
advertisements) online at:

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~rich1/PorcFest_NHLF_Flyer.pdf

Please provide comments and suggestions ASAP.  Thanks.
	 -Rich

The design(s) for PorcFest 2008 needs to get started.  We want to go
with the PorcStock theme, parodying the Woodstock poster.  There's
been some initial work on this design by Rissy which we'd like to
flesh out.

Rissy or anyone else interested in doing this?  Again, there will be
financial compensation (we can work out the details privately) and
recognition.
	 -Rich

Here;s the problem with a nice background in an animated gif. The way
the files work. They use only few colors in their pallet to keep file
size way down and if you assign more colors so you can get a nice
picture you end up with a ridiculously huge file size. and if you
dont, the image looks cheap then your orginization looks cheap.

What size are we talking about here? if its 125w x 100h you cant get
all those words on a comprehensable banner.

A banner ad is supposed to attract you to a website that can tell
more information. Not give it all away. Simple is the best no?

--- In fsp_art@yahoogroups.com, Rich Goldman <rich1@...> wrote:
>
> I have some experience with flash, but GIF is the easiest.
>
> As for specifics, how this:
>
> Background: a nice image of NH landscape that text can be placed
on
> top of clearly
>
> Slide 1:
> Looking for Liberty in your Lifetime?
> image  of the pointing porcupine PorcFest Logo
>
> Slide 2:
> Then come explore New Hampshire
> and The Free State Project at the
> 2007 Porcupine Freedom Festival
> June 18-24
> Gunstock Mountain Resort, New Hampshire
>
> Slide 3:
> At PorcFest you'll be able to:
> Talk with New Hampshire natives and FSP early movers.
> Hear and discuss the progress and future of the FSP.
> Socialize with hundreds of fellow lovers of liberty.
>
> Slide 4:
> At PorcFest you'll be able to:
> Tour New Hampshire on FSP bus tours or on your own.
> Attend leadership and activist training seminars.
> Participate in pro-liberty activism and more!
>
> Slide 5:
> For more information visit
> www.PorcFest.com
> PorcFest Logo
> "Discover New Freedoms, New Communities, and New Beginnings!"
>
> Feedback on this text/design would be appreciated.
>  -Rich
>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2007, at 3:49 PM, James Babb wrote:
>
> > How about a Flash based slide show? I have no experience with web
> > animation. Hopefully, someone else is better qualified. I could
> > prepare
> > a series of small frames, but I'd need very specific instructions
> > before I got involved. I'm stretched pretty thin at the moment.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Mar 21, 2007, at 1:44 PM, Rich Goldman wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jim. So there's the info we present on our current designs,
e.g.
> > > name,
> > > date, location, bullet-points, etc. but we need a banner ad
that is
> > > much
> > > smaller and that can be put on webpages. I'm therefore thinking
we
> > > convert
> > > the current design and text, in essence, into a slide show, i.e.
> > > animated
> > > GIF.
> > >
> > > Does this help?
> > > -Rich
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Babb [mailto:jamesbabb@...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:40 PM
> > > To: Rich Goldman
> > > Subject: Re: Banner Ads
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 21, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Rich Goldman wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Jim. Do you think you'd be able to use the style and break
the
> > >> text of the current (full page and quarter page) PorcFest ads
into
> > >> smaller 125w x 100h sized panels? We could then string these
> > together
> > >> to form a web banner.
> > >> -Rich
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

I think you could loose "the free state project`s" at the top in the
front because it says the website right underneath and not only is it
redundent it IS too much. On the back I feel you can have as much as
you want, but "The 4th anual", and then going to another line seems
clumsy. You could streamline it by starting with the second line
saying 4th anual. I dont think you need the the.

I'm using CorelDraw, I should be able to save it I'll see if
I can save it in PSD format or in some other type you can
use (tonight, it's on my home computer)


> Good point.  Do you have an editable version I can
> manipulate   directly (e.g. a photoshop file with layers)?
>     -Rich
>
> On May 17, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Philip Denisch wrote:
>
> > That's an "all caps" type font/face.
> > If you know the name of a font that you like (and I have
> > it on my machine or can get it) I'll use it. There's
> > just too many for me to try each one.
> >
> > --- In fsp_art@yahoogroups.com, Rich Goldman <rich1@...>
> > wrote: >
> > > Can the ShirtFront06.jpg version be modified so the
> > > text is not all caps?
> > > -Rich
> > >
> > > On May 15, 2007, at 6:31 PM, pdenisch@... wrote:
> > >
> > > > More files loaded to fsp_art, any of them to your
> > liking? >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

That's an "all caps" type font/face.
If you know the name of a font that you like (and I have it on my
machine or can get it) I'll use it. There's just too many for me to
try each one.

--- In fsp_art@yahoogroups.com, Rich Goldman <rich1@...> wrote:
>
> Can the ShirtFront06.jpg version be modified so the text is not all
> caps?
>  -Rich
>
> On May 15, 2007, at 6:31 PM, pdenisch@... wrote:
>
> > More files loaded to fsp_art, any of them to your liking?
>

Can the ShirtFront06.jpg version be modified so the text is not all
caps?
	 -Rich

On May 15, 2007, at 6:31 PM, pdenisch@... wrote:

> More files loaded to fsp_art, any of them to your liking?

Hi. Im strapped for time right now so I cant introduce myself very
well but;

My name is Conrad J. Klinkhammer. My resume is at
sws.mnstate.edu/klinkhco

I wanna help the FSP in any way possible so any requests for something
to be made on photoshop I would be happy to work on and yeah.

dozo yoroshiku oneigai itashimasu

Nice to meet you all.

Im sorry but I dont know how to access that could you explain to me?

I've posted Christa's latest draft at http://userpages.umbc.edu/
~rich1/TShirtDesign.PNG .

I think this looks good.  Unless I hear an objection, we're going to
move forward now with getting these shirts produced.

Phil, can you start on this?   Can you throw together a simple design
for the front of the shirt (PF 2007 logo with some text underneath)?
	 -Rich

Modern Postcard can print and mail 7K post cards for $2,315. They can
turn it around fast too.

Do you need an extra 3,000 printed for some other purpose?

Jim



On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Philip Denisch wrote:

> Proposed idea to send PF07 postcards to the FSP membership (and
> possibly others).
>
> Option 1: Doing it oursleves
> Costs:
> 10,000 standard postcards (5.47"x4.21") one side full color printing,
> back side black/white = $500
> Art (assuming we can adjust the current design without extra expense)
> = $4.99 (upload fee)
> Shipping 21 days (assuming they all go to one address)(assuming we
> won't need rush) = $48.00
> Postage (7,000 * 0.24) = $1,680.00
> Labels (1"x2 5/8') = $60
> Ink/Toner for label printing = ~ $50
>
> Total: ~ $2,343.00
>
> Time: Lots (to print, label, and stamp the postcards. Could be done
> as a local group project)
>
> Positives: Total control, slightly cheaper, security
> Negatives: Time, volunteer effort
>
> Option 2: Mailing service
> Total: ~ $2,400.00
>
> Time: Not as much (Art preparation, liason with company, getting mail
> list to them in the desired format)
>
> Positives: Professional quality (we hope), Speed, less "hassle"
> Negatives: Mailing list to outside party (Will they sign a non-
> disclosure aggreement?)
>
> I may not have thought of everything. If we shop around more we may
> be able to bring the costs down.
>
> This will be cross-posted to the PF07 Group.

Modern Postcard can print and mail 7K post cards for $2,315. They can
turn it around fast too.

Do you need an extra 3,000 printed for some other purpose?

Jim



On Mar 28, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Philip Denisch wrote:

> Proposed idea to send PF07 postcards to the FSP membership (and
> possibly others).
>
> Option 1: Doing it oursleves
> Costs:
> 10,000 standard postcards (5.47"x4.21") one side full color printing,
> back side black/white = $500
> Art (assuming we can adjust the current design without extra expense)
> = $4.99 (upload fee)
> Shipping 21 days (assuming they all go to one address)(assuming we
> won't need rush) = $48.00
> Postage (7,000 * 0.24) = $1,680.00
> Labels (1"x2 5/8') = $60
> Ink/Toner for label printing = ~ $50
>
> Total: ~ $2,343.00
>
> Time: Lots (to print, label, and stamp the postcards. Could be done
> as a local group project)
>
> Positives: Total control, slightly cheaper, security
> Negatives: Time, volunteer effort
>
> Option 2: Mailing service
> Total: ~ $2,400.00
>
> Time: Not as much (Art preparation, liason with company, getting mail
> list to them in the desired format)
>
> Positives: Professional quality (we hope), Speed, less "hassle"
> Negatives: Mailing list to outside party (Will they sign a non-
> disclosure aggreement?)
>
> I may not have thought of everything. If we shop around more we may
> be able to bring the costs down.
>
> This will be cross-posted to the PF07 Group.

Proposed idea to send PF07 postcards to the FSP membership (and
possibly others).

Option 1: Doing it oursleves
Costs:
10,000 standard postcards (5.47"x4.21") one side full color printing,
back side black/white = $500
Art (assuming we can adjust the current design without extra expense)
= $4.99 (upload fee)
Shipping 21 days (assuming they all go to one address)(assuming we
won't need rush) = $48.00
Postage (7,000 * 0.24) = $1,680.00
Labels (1"x2 5/8') = $60
Ink/Toner for label printing = ~ $50

Total: ~ $2,343.00

Time: Lots (to print, label, and stamp the postcards. Could be done
as a local group project)

Positives: Total control, slightly cheaper, security
Negatives: Time, volunteer effort

Option 2: Mailing service
Total: ~ $2,400.00

Time: Not as much (Art preparation, liason with company, getting mail
list to them in the desired format)

Positives: Professional quality (we hope), Speed, less "hassle"
Negatives: Mailing list to outside party (Will they sign a non-
disclosure aggreement?)


I may not have thought of everything. If we shop around more we may
be able to bring the costs down.

This will be cross-posted to the PF07 Group.