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Never heard of it?   NOt mentionned in official discography of Furt.

Is is a joke or what?

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Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.

Alain


--- Martin Richard <martinr56@...> wrote:

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Why stupid? The original was very clever and fooled those who took it too
seriously without reading carefully and looking at all the information
given.  Of course, we'd all love the real thing, but...

Nothing like a good spoof.  How many of you fell for "Beat the Devil" with
Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lollabrigida and Robert Morley and Jennifer Jones,
thinking it was a terrible picture full of every cliche in the book?  And
then suddenly realized - yes, it has every cliche of the genre on
purpose.  I was more than half way through before I cottoned on - but
rather than blame the stupidity of the picture, I praise the makers for
their ability to lead me so far astray!  We need a good sense of humor to
survive this mad world we are living in.

Lightheartedly yours, in all seriousness,

Eric

At 03:39 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
>Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.

Eric Kisch
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And "Beat the Devil" has one of the best movie "bits"
with Peter Lorre's "What is Time?" speech followed by
Bumphrey Hogart's retort "It walks, it talks, it
philosophizes".  I love that!  Of course the combo of
Truman Capote (who supposedly had measles?) and John
Huston (talk about Frick and Frack!) exemplifies the
tongue-in-cheek flavor of this film (with the script
being lowered in a basket from Capote's hotel room
window because he was contagious)!!!

Still laughing and pulling this DVD out for this
weekend!

Alan Carrier

--- Eric Kisch <kischmir@...> wrote:

> Why stupid? The original was very clever and fooled
> those who took it too
> seriously without reading carefully and looking at
> all the information
> given.  Of course, we'd all love the real thing,
> but...
>
> Nothing like a good spoof.  How many of you fell for
> "Beat the Devil" with
> Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lollabrigida and Robert
> Morley and Jennifer Jones,
> thinking it was a terrible picture full of every
> cliche in the book?  And
> then suddenly realized - yes, it has every cliche of
> the genre on
> purpose.  I was more than half way through before I
> cottoned on - but
> rather than blame the stupidity of the picture, I
> praise the makers for
> their ability to lead me so far astray!  We need a
> good sense of humor to
> survive this mad world we are living in.
>
> Lightheartedly yours, in all seriousness,
>
> Eric
>
> At 03:39 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
> >Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.
>
> Eric Kisch
> Musical Passions Productions
> 21850 E. Byron Road
> Shaker Heights, OH 44122
> Phone/Fax: 216/295-8535
> Email: eric@...
> Listen to Musical Passions Sundays at 11:00 a.m.
> on WCLV 104.9 FM or on the Internet at www.wclv.com
>
>
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I was the person that identified numerous fakes in the 1970s and had
them withdrawn from an important japanese catalogue : Schubert 2 an d3,
1946 (!) Schubert 9th, the infamous "Chris Hoch speaking to you from
Vienna" Beethoven 5th, and so forth. Not so funny any more!

>>> martinr56@... 7/8/2005 4:36:52 PM >>>
If you find the complete Parsifal   by Furtwangler, then I will be very
pleased. And it
will be a marvelous spoof...

Martin

--- Eric Kisch <kischmir@...> wrote:

> Why stupid? The original was very clever and fooled those who took it
too
> seriously without reading carefully and looking at all the
information
> given.  Of course, we'd all love the real thing, but...
>
> Nothing like a good spoof.  How many of you fell for "Beat the Devil"
with
> Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lollabrigida and Robert Morley and Jennifer
Jones,
> thinking it was a terrible picture full of every cliche in the book?
And
> then suddenly realized - yes, it has every cliche of the genre on
> purpose.  I was more than half way through before I cottoned on - but

> rather than blame the stupidity of the picture, I praise the makers
for
> their ability to lead me so far astray!  We need a good sense of
humor to
> survive this mad world we are living in.
>
> Lightheartedly yours, in all seriousness,
>
> Eric
>
> At 03:39 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
> >Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.
>
> Eric Kisch
> Musical Passions Productions
> 21850 E. Byron Road
> Shaker Heights, OH 44122
> Phone/Fax: 216/295-8535
> Email: eric@...
> Listen to Musical Passions Sundays at 11:00 a.m.
> on WCLV 104.9 FM or on the Internet at www.wclv.com
>
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If you find the complete Parsifal   by Furtwangler, then I will be very pleased.
And it
will be a marvelous spoof...

Martin

--- Eric Kisch <kischmir@...> wrote:

> Why stupid? The original was very clever and fooled those who took it too
> seriously without reading carefully and looking at all the information
> given.  Of course, we'd all love the real thing, but...
>
> Nothing like a good spoof.  How many of you fell for "Beat the Devil" with
> Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lollabrigida and Robert Morley and Jennifer Jones,
> thinking it was a terrible picture full of every cliche in the book?  And
> then suddenly realized - yes, it has every cliche of the genre on
> purpose.  I was more than half way through before I cottoned on - but
> rather than blame the stupidity of the picture, I praise the makers for
> their ability to lead me so far astray!  We need a good sense of humor to
> survive this mad world we are living in.
>
> Lightheartedly yours, in all seriousness,
>
> Eric
>
> At 03:39 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
> >Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.
>
> Eric Kisch
> Musical Passions Productions
> 21850 E. Byron Road
> Shaker Heights, OH 44122
> Phone/Fax: 216/295-8535
> Email: eric@...
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What about your Bruckner 8 from BBC?

Martin
Canada

--- Lee Schipper <SCHIPPER@...> wrote:

> I was the person that identified numerous fakes in the 1970s and had
> them withdrawn from an important japanese catalogue : Schubert 2 an d3,
> 1946 (!) Schubert 9th, the infamous "Chris Hoch speaking to you from
> Vienna" Beethoven 5th, and so forth. Not so funny any more!
>
> >>> martinr56@... 7/8/2005 4:36:52 PM >>>
> If you find the complete Parsifal   by Furtwangler, then I will be very
> pleased. And it
> will be a marvelous spoof...
>
> Martin
>
> --- Eric Kisch <kischmir@...> wrote:
>
> > Why stupid? The original was very clever and fooled those who took it
> too
> > seriously without reading carefully and looking at all the
> information
> > given.  Of course, we'd all love the real thing, but...
> >
> > Nothing like a good spoof.  How many of you fell for "Beat the Devil"
> with
> > Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lollabrigida and Robert Morley and Jennifer
> Jones,
> > thinking it was a terrible picture full of every cliche in the book?
> And
> > then suddenly realized - yes, it has every cliche of the genre on
> > purpose.  I was more than half way through before I cottoned on - but
>
> > rather than blame the stupidity of the picture, I praise the makers
> for
> > their ability to lead me so far astray!  We need a good sense of
> humor to
> > survive this mad world we are living in.
> >
> > Lightheartedly yours, in all seriousness,
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > At 03:39 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
> > >Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.
> >
> > Eric Kisch
> > Musical Passions Productions
> > 21850 E. Byron Road
> > Shaker Heights, OH 44122
> > Phone/Fax: 216/295-8535
> > Email: eric@...
> > Listen to Musical Passions Sundays at 11:00 a.m.
> > on WCLV 104.9 FM or on the Internet at www.wclv.com
> >
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In the French Diapason Music Magazine,

they suggested a Schubert Lieder CD with Callas signing accompanied by Glenn
Gould at the
piano.?   Lots of people get caught by this joke.....

Martin



--- Lee Schipper <SCHIPPER@...> wrote:

> I was the person that identified numerous fakes in the 1970s and had
> them withdrawn from an important japanese catalogue : Schubert 2 an d3,
> 1946 (!) Schubert 9th, the infamous "Chris Hoch speaking to you from
> Vienna" Beethoven 5th, and so forth. Not so funny any more!
>
> >>> martinr56@... 7/8/2005 4:36:52 PM >>>
> If you find the complete Parsifal   by Furtwangler, then I will be very
> pleased. And it
> will be a marvelous spoof...
>
> Martin
>
> --- Eric Kisch <kischmir@...> wrote:
>
> > Why stupid? The original was very clever and fooled those who took it
> too
> > seriously without reading carefully and looking at all the
> information
> > given.  Of course, we'd all love the real thing, but...
> >
> > Nothing like a good spoof.  How many of you fell for "Beat the Devil"
> with
> > Humphrey Bogart and Gina Lollabrigida and Robert Morley and Jennifer
> Jones,
> > thinking it was a terrible picture full of every cliche in the book?
> And
> > then suddenly realized - yes, it has every cliche of the genre on
> > purpose.  I was more than half way through before I cottoned on - but
>
> > rather than blame the stupidity of the picture, I praise the makers
> for
> > their ability to lead me so far astray!  We need a good sense of
> humor to
> > survive this mad world we are living in.
> >
> > Lightheartedly yours, in all seriousness,
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > At 03:39 PM 7/8/2005, you wrote:
> > >Yes it was a joke. a stupid joke.
> >
> > Eric Kisch
> > Musical Passions Productions
> > 21850 E. Byron Road
> > Shaker Heights, OH 44122
> > Phone/Fax: 216/295-8535
> > Email: eric@...
> > Listen to Musical Passions Sundays at 11:00 a.m.
> > on WCLV 104.9 FM or on the Internet at www.wclv.com
> >
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Those in the audience not withstanding, I am struck by the firmness of
the performance -- solidly in F's hands. Further, I find the sound
quality fine for its genre as a recording on acetates..
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NOt bad at all.

I thought too that it should be worst.   Did you understand the german
commentary at the
end of the cd; I don't.   But is it of a certain interest to understand it?

Martin

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I think he's just talking about which stations are connected.. I will
listen again. On the 1936 Lohengrin act iii he clearly says "In the
presence of the Reichsfuehurer and the entire Reichsgovernment"  but the
rest is the usual " Radio CAnada, Radio Luxembourg." .

>>> martinr56@... 7/27/2005 9:01:56 AM >>>
NOt bad at all.

I thought too that it should be worst.   Did you understand the german
commentary at the
end of the cd; I don't.   But is it of a certain interest to understand
it?

Martin

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> quality fine for its genre as a recording on acetates..
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Tingggggg.
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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:56 AM
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zing! or as Beethoven would have written:
"Seid Umzungen, Millionen
Dieser Ping der ganzen Welt."

>>> eabock@... 9/11/2005 8:50:23 AM >>>
Tingggggg.
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Ping  , the list seems to be dead!!!!

Martin

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> zing! or as Beethoven would have written:
> "Seid Umzungen, Millionen
> Dieser Ping der ganzen Welt."
>
> >>> eabock@... 9/11/2005 8:50:23 AM >>>
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Hello folks,

While this is not timely, I figure it can't hurt to share something before this
list stagnates further.  The weblink offers some very well considered thoughts
IMO.  I add this in hopes that someone else who has not seen this may find this
as interesting as I did.

http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&cccpage=news_detail\
&set_z_news=354

Best wishes and
kind regards to all,
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Very interesting. Who wrote it?

>>> grs113@... 9/12/2005 5:34:22 PM >>>
Hello folks,

While this is not timely, I figure it can't hurt to share something
before this
list stagnates further.  The weblink offers some very well considered
thoughts
IMO.  I add this in hopes that someone else who has not seen this may
find this
as interesting as I did.

http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&cccpage=news_detail\
&set_z_news=354


Best wishes and
kind regards to all,
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Many thanks for that interesting
VPO article.

Article 0392 at the same url has an
interesting account of the VPO members
during the last weeks of WWII, before
Russian forces moved in.
Ed Bock
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> Very interesting. Who wrote it?
>
>>>> grs113@... 9/12/2005 5:34:22 PM >>>
> Hello folks,
>
> While this is not timely, I figure it can't hurt to share something
> before this
> list stagnates further.  The weblink offers some very well considered
> thoughts
> IMO.  I add this in hopes that someone else who has not seen this may
> find this
> as interesting as I did.
>
>
http://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/index.php?set_language=en&cccpage=news_detail\
&set_z_news=354
>
>
> Best wishes and
> kind regards to all,
> Randy
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Quoting Lee Schipper <schipper@...>:

> Very interesting. Who wrote it?
>


Vienna Philharmonics chairman Clemens Hellsberg when he declared
Nikolaus Harnoncourt honorary member of the orchestra.

http://www.styriarte.com/harnoncourt/index.php/article/articleview/1366/1/9/

"09.12.2004
Ernennung zum Ehrenmitglied der Philharmoniker

    	 Nikolaus Harnoncourt, der am 6. Dezember seinen 75. Geburtstag
gefeiert hat, wurde gestern zum Ehrenmitglied der Wiener Philharmoniker
ernannt.

	 Harnoncourt, der bereits am Vormittag im Musikverein das Verdi-Requiem
dirigiert und bei der nachmittäglichen Gedenkfeier zum 50.Todestag des
Dirigenten Wilhelm Furtwängler im Brahms-Saal eigene Erinnerungen an
den großen Kollegen beigesteuert hatte, bekam nicht nur von
Philharmoniker-Vorstand Clemens Hellsberg die Ehrenurkunde überreicht,
sondern musste auch 75 Kerzen einer Geburtstagstorte ausblasen."

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Interesting. I talked about Nov 30 with Elisabeth Furtwaengler in June, and she
still was very distressed over the cancellation of the
concert in PAris, which she attributed to American influences on UNESCO. IF
true, its amazing that the atmosphere that kept Furtwaengler
out of the US and Chicago in 1949 -- and probably prolongued his
"denazification" according to her -- still permeates US attitudes towards him.

>>> zoe@... 9/13/2005 10:25:50 AM >>>
Quoting Lee Schipper <schipper@...>:

> Very interesting. Who wrote it?
>


Vienna Philharmonics chairman Clemens Hellsberg when he declared
Nikolaus Harnoncourt honorary member of the orchestra.

http://www.styriarte.com/harnoncourt/index.php/article/articleview/1366/1/9/

"09.12.2004
Ernennung zum Ehrenmitglied der Philharmoniker

    	 Nikolaus Harnoncourt, der am 6. Dezember seinen 75. Geburtstag
gefeiert hat, wurde gestern zum Ehrenmitglied der Wiener Philharmoniker
ernannt.

	 Harnoncourt, der bereits am Vormittag im Musikverein das Verdi-Requiem
dirigiert und bei der nachmittäglichen Gedenkfeier zum 50.Todestag des
Dirigenten Wilhelm Furtwängler im Brahms-Saal eigene Erinnerungen an
den großen Kollegen beigesteuert hatte, bekam nicht nur von
Philharmoniker-Vorstand Clemens Hellsberg die Ehrenurkunde überreicht,
sondern musste auch 75 Kerzen einer Geburtstagstorte ausblasen."

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Interesting. I talked about Nov 30 with Elisabeth Furtwaengler in June, and she
still was very distressed over the cancellation of the
concert in PAris, which she attributed to American influences on UNESCO. IF
true, its amazing that the atmosphere that kept Furtwaengler
out of the US and Chicago in 1949 -- and probably prolongued his
"denazification" according to her -- still permeates US attitudes towards him.

It is not true, I can assure you, but it made good a little bit of
anti-americanism in Paris, for a disfunctional action trying to involve UNESCO
in the anniversary,

Best regards,
Victor Eskenasy

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At 10:25 AM 9/13/2005, Georg wrote:

>Harnoncourt, der bereits am Vormittag im Musikverein das Verdi-Requiem
>dirigiert und bei der nachmittäglichen Gedenkfeier zum 50.Todestag des
>Dirigenten Wilhelm Furtwängler im Brahms-Saal eigene Erinnerungen an
>den großen Kollegen beigesteuert hatte, bekam nicht nur von
>Philharmoniker-Vorstand Clemens Hellsberg die Ehrenurkunde überreicht,
>sondern musste auch 75 Kerzen einer Geburtstagstorte ausblasen."

My attempted translation:  Harnoncourt, who conducted the Verdi Requiem in
the morning and in the afternoon gave his own reminiscences of his great
colleague at the commemoration for the 50th anniversary of the death of the
conductor Wilhelm Furtwängler in the Brahms Hall, received not only the
notice of his honorary membership of the vienna Philharmonic, but also had
to blow out 75 candles on his birthday cake.

My question:  Is there any record of Harnoncourt's remarks on WF? I'd be
curious to know what he had to say about his esteemed predecessor.

Eric


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Lured by a handful of Furtwängler recordings and a very useful discography,
I decided to subscribe to the andante.com site, which is very attractive in
terms of facilities for reference and streaming music. However, I found the
audio tended to stutter in very unlistenable ways on my brand-new Compaq
laptop (other streaming services are fine), so around five weeks ago I used
the online contact page to ask for advice (after reading Andante's unhelpful
FAQ); four weeks ago I used this page again and also added an email; three
weeks ago I did the same; two weeks ago I had another go; one week ago I
cancelled my membership in disgust. I am curious to know whether others have
had the same dismal experience of andante.com's customer 'support'. I must
say it was the last thing I expected from such a well-conceived site. I
really couldn't recommend the site until they sort this appalling service
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Thanks for the warning. I went to their site this morning to check
out an interesting Szell recording, clicked on the audio samples, and
was treated to several quite pleasant samples of someone playing
Schubert’s Tod und das Mädchen quartet.

Still, it would be nice if their service worked.


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I was recently offered a set of CDs from ANDROMEDA (?)
CD NUMBER 6 includes parts of a recording, exeedingly poor in sound and (to me)
musical qualities.
Has anybody heard of - I quote - "Gioconda De Vito, violin
Orchestra &Conductor unknown. Performance probably attributable to Furtwängler &
Philarmonia Orchestra. Probably recorded in 1952 or 1953" ?????????????
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I have both the Brahms and the Mendelsson with
F and RaI Torino.
Didn't know they ever did the Beethoven. She was a so-so player....I think
married to an important EMI person...so it is not impossible.

>>> mutokukai@... 9/28/2005 7:51:21 AM >>>
I was recently offered a set of CDs from ANDROMEDA (?)
CD NUMBER 6 includes parts of a recording, exeedingly poor in sound and (to me)
musical qualities.
Has anybody heard of - I quote - "Gioconda De Vito, violin
Orchestra &Conductor unknown. Performance probably attributable to Furtwängler &
Philarmonia Orchestra. Probably recorded in 1952 or 1953" ?????????????
Stéphane BENEDETTI
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I have the complete performance forst issued on the
Italien label "Idis".  I believe the Andromeda edition
is just bits and pieces as opposed to the entire
concerto. According to the notes the original discs
are from de Vito's own collection.  I have read
elsewhere that Henry Vogel has come firmly down on the
side that this is NOT a Furtwaengler performance.  I
have not listened enough to formulate my own opinion.
There is no mention in either of the Tremine
discographies or the concert listing (but this amazing
discographical achievement (second only to Monika
Wolf's discography of Fischer-Dieskau) contains errors
and omissions).  I rather like de Vito (I have a large
box set issued in Japan - where they seem to be crazy
for all things violin) that has some rather lovely
playing: Bach with Kubelik especially.

Alan Carrier
New York City


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> Didn't know they ever did the Beethoven. She was a
> so-so player....I think married to an important EMI
> person...so it is not impossible.
>
> >>> mutokukai@... 9/28/2005 7:51:21 AM >>>
> I was recently offered a set of CDs from ANDROMEDA
> (?)
> CD NUMBER 6 includes parts of a recording,
> exeedingly poor in sound and (to me)
> musical qualities.
> Has anybody heard of - I quote - "Gioconda De Vito,
> violin
> Orchestra &Conductor unknown. Performance probably
> attributable to Furtwängler &
> Philarmonia Orchestra. Probably recorded in 1952 or
> 1953" ?????????????
> Stéphane BENEDETTI
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De Vito married David Bicknell, EMI’s director of classical
recordings, in 1949.


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Dear Friends,
Alan Carrier is right, it's only bits but what I have heard is impossible to
associate to Furtwängler conducting...
Thank you for the informations,
Keep this letter alive !
S Benedetti - Barcelona - Spain


Selon Alan Carrier <alanatliberty@...>:

> I have the complete performance forst issued on the
> Italien label "Idis".  I believe the Andromeda edition
> is just bits and pieces as opposed to the entire
> concerto. According to the notes the original discs
> are from de Vito's own collection.  I have read
> elsewhere that Henry Vogel has come firmly down on the
> side that this is NOT a Furtwaengler performance.  I
> have not listened enough to formulate my own opinion.
> There is no mention in either of the Tremine
> discographies or the concert listing (but this amazing
> discographical achievement (second only to Monika
> Wolf's discography of Fischer-Dieskau) contains errors
> and omissions).  I rather like de Vito (I have a large
> box set issued in Japan - where they seem to be crazy
> for all things violin) that has some rather lovely
> playing: Bach with Kubelik especially.
>
> Alan Carrier
> New York City
>
>
> --- Lee Schipper <SCHIPPER@...> wrote:
>
> > I have both the Brahms and the Mendelsson with
> > F and RaI Torino.
> > Didn't know they ever did the Beethoven. She was a
> > so-so player....I think married to an important EMI
> > person...so it is not impossible.
> >
> > >>> mutokukai@... 9/28/2005 7:51:21 AM >>>
> > I was recently offered a set of CDs from ANDROMEDA
> > (?)
> > CD NUMBER 6 includes parts of a recording,
> > exeedingly poor in sound and (to me)
> > musical qualities.
> > Has anybody heard of - I quote - "Gioconda De Vito,
> > violin
> > Orchestra &Conductor unknown. Performance probably
> > attributable to Furtwängler &
> > Philarmonia Orchestra. Probably recorded in 1952 or
> > 1953" ?????????????
> > Stéphane BENEDETTI
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I agree. There is no Beethoven concerto with de Vito and Furtwangler
recordings.   Only, 3 Menuhin, one Schneiderhan, et one Rohn
concudcted by Furt.

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> Dear Friends,
> Alan Carrier is right, it's only bits but what I have heard is
impossible to
> associate to Furtwängler conducting...
> Thank you for the informations,
> Keep this letter alive !
> S Benedetti - Barcelona - Spain
>
>
> Selon Alan Carrier <alanatliberty@y...>:
>
> > I have the complete performance forst issued on the
> > Italien label "Idis".  I believe the Andromeda edition
> > is just bits and pieces as opposed to the entire
> > concerto. According to the notes the original discs
> > are from de Vito's own collection.  I have read
> > elsewhere that Henry Vogel has come firmly down on the
> > side that this is NOT a Furtwaengler performance.  I
> > have not listened enough to formulate my own opinion.
> > There is no mention in either of the Tremine
> > discographies or the concert listing (but this amazing
> > discographical achievement (second only to Monika
> > Wolf's discography of Fischer-Dieskau) contains errors
> > and omissions).  I rather like de Vito (I have a large
> > box set issued in Japan - where they seem to be crazy
> > for all things violin) that has some rather lovely
> > playing: Bach with Kubelik especially.
> >
> > Alan Carrier
> > New York City
> >
> >
> > --- Lee Schipper <SCHIPPER@w...> wrote:
> >
> > > I have both the Brahms and the Mendelsson with
> > > F and RaI Torino.
> > > Didn't know they ever did the Beethoven. She was a
> > > so-so player....I think married to an important EMI
> > > person...so it is not impossible.
> > >
> > > >>> mutokukai@f... 9/28/2005 7:51:21 AM >>>
> > > I was recently offered a set of CDs from ANDROMEDA
> > > (?)
> > > CD NUMBER 6 includes parts of a recording,
> > > exeedingly poor in sound and (to me)
> > > musical qualities.
> > > Has anybody heard of - I quote - "Gioconda De Vito,
> > > violin
> > > Orchestra &Conductor unknown. Performance probably
> > > attributable to Furtwängler &
> > > Philarmonia Orchestra. Probably recorded in 1952 or
> > > 1953" ?????????????
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