<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE> <P>This is obtainable from the Berkshire Record Outlet for $3.99. The recording is quite poor,...
Manny Nadelman
enadelman@...
May 4, 2005 11:40 pm
8292
Well maybe the price is befitting of the overall significant? I have to say that interms of overall political impact, nother is more scary then the Video of...
Lee Schipper
schipper@...
May 4, 2005 11:49 pm
8293
Lee, I have never seen this Mengelberg footage. Where is it located and how does one get to see it? There are a number of stories about Mengelberg giving the...
Alan Carrier
alanatliberty@...
May 5, 2005 12:27 am
8294
Years ago Fred Maroth passed to me a documentary on Mengelberg in black and white that was in PAL..I suspect he got it from Dutch TV sources. I played it when...
Lee Schipper
schipper@...
May 5, 2005 12:43 am
8295
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RSteinb615@...
May 5, 2005 3:08 am
8296
I just noticed that Berkshire has the Gebhardt RAI Ring in stock. Does anyone know if this set has decent sound or not? Thanks, Tim Tucker ... * POSTED to...
Tim Tucker
zardoz1967@...
May 25, 2005 2:38 am
8297
Decent sound for an historical edition. I have the Opera d'Oro edition, a bit cheaper and the sound is comparable to the Emi edition of the other Furt Ring...
Martin Richard
martinr56@...
May 25, 2005 2:04 pm
8298
Are you sure - the Opera D'oro is the 1950 Scala Ring, not the 53 RAI Ring Richard ... From: "Martin Richard" <martinr56@...> To: <furt-l@...>...
Richard Loeb
loeb123@...
May 25, 2005 2:20 pm
8299
OK The Emi ring has a better sound than the SCala anyway. A the sound is very decent for an historical in the Emi reedition. The Scala one has a truncated...
Martin Richard
martinr56@...
May 25, 2005 2:41 pm
8300
I have to say I really have a problem with this one. The EMI edition of the Ring is still available. It can currently be bought for $78.30 plus shipping from...
Grames, Ronald
RGrames@...
May 25, 2005 3:10 pm
8301
I have the Gebhardt - it has been remastered at a higher level than the EMI - I prefer the EMI - the sound is more natural and the bass is fuller - though the...
Richard Loeb
loeb123@...
May 25, 2005 3:12 pm
8302
Absolutely right. I approve. Martin ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam...
Martin Richard
martinr56@...
May 25, 2005 3:25 pm
8303
I don’t think that Ron’s comments can be described (as he did) as a “rant.” I think they’re quite thoughtful and sensible. The question becomes...
Lofty Becker
lofty@...
May 25, 2005 7:06 pm
8304
If you just want one - I would stick with the EMI Richard ... From: "Lofty Becker" <lofty@...> To: <furt-l@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005...
Richard Loeb
loeb123@...
May 25, 2005 7:15 pm
8305
I have to ask a few possibly stupid questions. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something. What source for the RAI Ring would be more original than the RAI master...
Alan Spaeth
aspaeth1@...
May 25, 2005 10:39 pm
8306
Its a long story 1- there are no RAI master tapes - the original tapes were probably destroyed and have never turned up 2. Fortunately RAI engineers had made...
Richard Loeb
loeb123@...
May 25, 2005 11:01 pm
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... It's been said here before that the Opera d'Oro seems to be a straight copy of the version carefully restored by the fine people at Music and Arts. While...
Philip Walsh
bf779@...
May 26, 2005 12:19 am
8308
Thanks for the explanation. I wonder where Amazon got that blurb that says it was remastered from the original tapes? Maybe someone was trying to say that it...
Alan Spaeth
aspaeth1@...
May 26, 2005 2:59 am
8309
Hi -that could be though they sound the same to me - the sound on my EMI set is perfectly fine mono sound Richard ... From: "Alan Spaeth" <aspaeth1@...>...
Richard Loeb
loeb123@...
May 26, 2005 3:08 am
8310
Doesn't seem likely that EMI would license their tape to Gebhardt to compete with their own active catalog item. Is my memory playing tricks, or have I...
Grames, Ronald
RGrames@...
May 26, 2005 4:48 pm
8311
MRF was a private label that issued the entire RAI ring in so so sound in I think 1968 or 1969. Wretched, but at the time the best around. ... Doesn't seem...
Lee Schipper
schipper@...
May 26, 2005 4:58 pm
8312
Yes, thank you. And that was based on off-the-air tapes. I really suspect that Gebhardt may make claims to the contrary, but uses the closest thing available...
Grames, Ronald
RGrames@...
May 26, 2005 5:45 pm
8313
The first release of the RAI Ring was on a “Private Record” from a company called MRF (I once knew what that stood for, but don’t recall; probably one of...
Lofty Becker
lofty@...
May 26, 2005 6:30 pm
8314
Something like Malraux Fugette (sorry for the bad mix of italian and french.) ... The first release of the RAI Ring was on a "Private Record" from a company...
Lee Schipper
schipper@...
May 26, 2005 6:53 pm
8315
Arche Music in France is offering a Wilhelm Furtwangler Cinquantenaire
1954-2004 set consisting of the 3rd (Berlin 20/06/50), 5th & 6th (Berlin
25/05/47), 7th...
John Wood
jwood@...
May 26, 2005 9:46 pm
8316
I'm not so enthusiastic for this set because of that lack in the IX symphony. If you are want a good version of 1947's V symphony you can buy the cd edited by...
Andrea Pignataro
datefuocoallaricotta@...
May 26, 2005 10:27 pm
8317
I hve the original live 1944 on Melodiya and the Turnabout Studio recording (on an old LP). Both should be around. ... I'm not so enthusiastic for this set...
Lee Schipper
schipper@...
May 26, 2005 10:31 pm
8318
I don't' see the Coriolan in Olsen. Is that more recently discovered? Is it the EMI studio recording? The Leonore III comes from the Teater an der Wien live...
Lee Schipper
schipper@...
May 26, 2005 10:33 pm
8319
Unless there are mis-identification problems (which would surprise me) you can find it on Music&Arts. It is available as a stand-alone CD (M&A CD-2001, ...
Giacomo Ponzetto
ponzetto@...
May 26, 2005 11:03 pm
8320
... Thanks, but I already have wartime recordings except for VI and VII symphony. Don't you know if there is a cd with these recordings? ...
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