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Re: [fusebox5] new to fusebox/setup

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Eva<bluemoonbow@...> wrote:
>
> Aw but when you are looking for a job, the question always comes up did you
> take a class or how did you learn to use fusebox.  If you take a class then
> that assures them that you have learn the standards and are using the method
> as taught ...if you learned it on your own then you are using your own
> interpretation which may not be their interpretation.  Saying I learned
> something on my own never seems to get the same respect as having taken and
> passed a class on the topic.

That may be true (the opposite for me actually), but what Kevin said
was correct. Fusebox is easy to learn with the documentation on the
site and sample apps.

Also, as I've seen several Fusebox sites over the years, all of them
have different standards. I don't think I've ever seen ANY sites that
follow the docs to the letter. :)

> ________________________________
> From: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fusebox5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kevin Pepperman
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:57 PM
> To: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [fusebox5] new to fusebox
>
> Fusebox is a simple, easy to use framework that works very good. Thats why
> it is so popular.
>
> The nuts and bolts are rather easy to understand. You shouldn't need a class
> to be able to use it.
> Maybe that is why you are getting no response here. Most people know a
> couple hours with whats available on the fusebox site, forums and groups
> should give you plenty of information to get started.
> Most general questions or beginner "how do i..?" questions have been gone
> over many times.
> Just some basic understanding of CFML, and if you use the XML flavor-- some
> understanding of the XML syntax is needed to begin.
> It is not a CMS or an 'out of box solution', so it supports almost any
> coding style (good or bad).
> If you download the few sample apps or the skeleton frameworks you will
> discover that it is really a simple process. Fusebox is very good at staying
> out of the way.
> There are conventions that are community standards.. But you do no need to
> use any of these conventions to use Fusebox.
>
> Download the core files and  the skeleton app.. place it in your site root.
> Thats it.
> No setup, nothing special to run it.
> I would suggest the books that are available if you want to get into the
> more advanced stuff.
>
http://www.protonarts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Books.showBookDetails&ISBN=097526\
477X

>
http://protonarts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Books.showBookDetails&ISBN=0975264761
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Eva <bluemoonbow@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So I take it from the silence that there isn't any place to learn
>> Fusebox.  Everyone for themselves kind of deal, not sure why it is so
>> popular then.
>> I like the idea but it would be nice to have some place to learn it....
>> Eva
>> ________________________________
>> From: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fusebox5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sean Corfield
>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:38 AM
>> To: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [fusebox5] new to fusebox
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Eva<bluemoonbow@...> wrote:
>> > Is there any place where I can sign up for a class on fusebox....kind of
>> > walk through an application from start to finish?  I am reading the
>> > Fusebox:
>> > Developing Coldfusion Application  but it would be nice to discuss it as
>> > I
>> > go along.
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear what people recommend on Fusebox training.
>>
>> I've heard of some very bad experiences with TeraTech Fusebox courses
>> so this is a good discussion to have here!
>> --
>> Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
>> Railo Technologies US -- http://getrailo.com/
>> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
>>
>> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
>> -- Margaret Atwood
>
>
>
> --
> -- if you've written a homegrown[*CFML] controller layer that rivals the
> sophistication and ease of use of the three major players (MG/MII/FB) - then
> share it or shut up. You code in a silo - that's great. Just stay in there
> and don't try to tell everyone how good it smells.
> --Dave Ross
>
>
>



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Is there any place where I can sign up for a class on fusebox....kind of walk through an application from start to finish? I am reading the Fusebox: ...
Eva
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... I'd be interested to hear what people recommend on Fusebox training. I've heard of some very bad experiences with TeraTech Fusebox courses so this is a...
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So I take it from the silence that there isn't any place to learn Fusebox. Everyone for themselves kind of deal, not sure why it is so popular then. I like the...
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I'm not familiar with formal training venues, with that said - I think you found a good resource here. This group, the documentation, and the forums have been...
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Fusebox is a simple, easy to use framework that works very good. Thats why it is so popular. The nuts and bolts are rather easy to understand. You shouldn't...
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Aw but when you are looking for a job, the question always comes up did you take a class or how did you learn to use fusebox. If you take a class then that...
Eva
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... That may be true (the opposite for me actually), but what Kevin said was correct. Fusebox is easy to learn with the documentation on the site and sample...
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You can place the core files anywhere you want and create a CF mapping to them. Then call them from any app root. Seth From: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com...
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