Yes, exactly. I feel awkward asking about things here cause everyone seems to be doing this for a while....and the answers kind of imply that you should have know that...but the thing is I figure that was the case but I wasn't sure. I hate to assume things and then something doesn't work and the reason it doesn't work is because your assumptions was wrong...lol That is why I was hoping there would be a class where you can go through everything and ask questions without feeling out of place.
Eva
From: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fusebox5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Strutz Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 2:38 PM To: fusebox5@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [fusebox5] new to fusebox
Eva,
I wholeheartedly agree that it's hard to get into. In fact, most of the frameworks are. This has been a pretty awful block for a long time. This is what I was hoping to help with the fusebox xml cheat sheet (http://www.dopefly.com/projects/fuseboxxmlcheatsheet.cfm).
Of course that only documents part of the story, it doesn't give you what you really need.
I believe all frameworks need a 4-step introduction:
1) Overview for confused individuals 2) Setup instructions - what the different downloads are, how to start an app, getting to hello world 3) How to make something. A database-connected form, for example 4) How to debug an existing, complex application
This process should work for ORM frameworks as well as Dependency Injection frameworks and whatever else. Of course this is an introduction, and doesn't really dive deeply into the internals - that stuff is also needed, at least on some level. Oh, and cheat sheets. Gotta love the cheat sheets. For fusebox, I think we need a zero config conventions cheat sheet, like the no-xml cheat sheet. I'll think about doing it myself.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Eva<bluemoonbow@earthlink.net> wrote: > Is there any place where I can sign up for a class on fusebox....kind of > walk through an application from start to finish? I am reading the Fusebox: > Developing Coldfusion Application but it would be nice to discuss it as I > go along.
I'd be interested to hear what people recommend on Fusebox training.
I've heard of some very bad experiences with TeraTech Fusebox courses so this is a good discussion to have here! -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies US -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/
"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood
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Eva, I wholeheartedly agree that it's hard to get into. In fact, most of the frameworks are. This has been a pretty awful block for a long time. This is what I...
Yes, exactly. I feel awkward asking about things here cause everyone seems to be doing this for a while....and the answers kind of imply that you should have...
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