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Re: [futarchy_discuss] Measuring Welfare

david.curran@... (David Curran) writes:
>Bhutan is trying to define national welfare
>http://www.physorg.com/news125462439.html
>
>"The main concerns have been identified as psychological well-being, health,
>education, good governance, living standards, community vitality and
>ecological diversity."
>
>What concerns would you include? And how would these parts of GDP+ be
>measured?

Life expectancy provides a fairly objective measure that is rather highly
correlated with the concerns that I care about. Some care needs to be taken
to standardize the somewhat variable treatment of infants that die shortly
after birth versus those that aren't counted because they're considered
stillborn, and there's some risk of patients being kept alive when the
patient would rather die, but those affect a pretty small fraction of
political issues.
I would like to include some measure of psychological well-being, but any
of the measures that come to mind would be abused if they influenced
important decisions.
I think education, good governance, and possibly more of that list should
be thought of as means we use to increase welfare, not ends.

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Bhutan is trying to define national welfare http://www.physorg.com/news125462439.html "The main concerns have been identified as psychological well-being,...
David Curran
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Mar 25, 2008
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... Life expectancy provides a fairly objective measure that is rather highly correlated with the concerns that I care about. Some care needs to be taken to...
Peter C. McCluskey
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Mar 26, 2008
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... I'm glad you asked that. I would include a component to measure self-reported satisfaction. Now, self-reported satisfaction ("happiness") is notoriously ...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Mar 27, 2008
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I see many problems with these suggested measures Lifespan can be extended in all sorts of authoritarian ways. Ban smoking is an obvious one. Is there any way...
David Curran
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Mar 27, 2008
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... The law of unintended consequences. This sort of discussion is largely an attempt to anticipate those consequences. ... Or, is there a way to measure...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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... well-being is what's being asked about. So the survey question would be something like "Are you better off than you were N years ago?" You could be better...
David Curran
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... That is true. I'm tempted to suggest framing the question in a way that excluded mere age. Something like "Other than being N years older than you were,...
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... If we had a good measure of psychological well-being, that should solve this problem. I doubt we can solve the problem without measuring psychological...
Peter C. McCluskey
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... You make a good point. Especially "how they think they ought to have felt" - that's something I hadn't considered. On the other hand, even though I summed...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Mar 29, 2008
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... By not asking them to do intertemporal comparisons. You appear to have suggested doing those comparisons in order to solve problems associated with...
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... It seems to me that satisfaction reports are implicitly some sort of intertemporal comparison. Or at least the alternative bases for satisfaction reports...
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