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Welcome! This group exists to discuss futarchy, Robin Hanson's idea. He summarizes it as "Vote on values but bet on beliefs". For a non-technical...
tehom2000
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Oct 13, 2007
12:14 am
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It's easier to explain futarchy if I first explain Idea Futures, another idea Robin Hanson had. So without further ado, "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is"...
tehom2000
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Oct 13, 2007
12:17 am
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First, you need to be familiar with Idea Futures in order to make sense of this. If you're not, please read "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is" Meets The...
tehom2000
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Oct 13, 2007
12:21 am
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This description is borrowed from an earlier email I wrote. The scenario I worry about is that, under the futarchy mechanism, someone (call her Alice) makes a...
tehom2000
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Oct 14, 2007
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In the last post I described the Opacity Problem, a serious problem with futarchy. If you haven't read it, you will need to have read it to understand this...
tehom2000
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Oct 15, 2007
11:39 pm
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In an earlier message I proposed that the Opacity Problem might be tamed by using a parallel market to estimate uncertainty. How might a parallel market...
tehom2000
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Oct 15, 2007
11:51 pm
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In an earlier message I proposed that the Opacity Problem might be tamed by using controlled language and a complexity metric. Proposal: * Require that...
tehom2000
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Oct 19, 2007
11:58 pm
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One feature that distinguishes futarchy with standard prediction markets is the "call off" feature. For every policy proposed, there are two markets created,...
Wei Dai
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Oct 27, 2007
7:55 pm
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Good post. I also had concerns about called-off bets. I hadn't thought of that exploit. I had only thought of a weaker scenario that may be just...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Oct 27, 2007
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... Answering my own post, I think the solution is to (a) fix the strike price early, and (b) undo the effect of external fluctuations by making the enactment...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Oct 28, 2007
7:26 pm
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... Are you saying that the proposal will pass if the following is true? price("yes") - price("no") > 2 * (call(GDP+) - put(GDP+)) + fixed_threshold If so, are...
Wei Dai
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Oct 29, 2007
10:33 am
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... price ... Specifically, ... Not quite. I like to think of "yes" and "no" as long and short sides of the same issue, rather than parallel markets. That...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Oct 30, 2007
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Sorry, I meant to look over your previous post, but forgot to. ... I don't see how this works... Wouldn't the price of "yes" be: p(P) * ((call(GDP+) + c1 -...
Wei Dai
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Nov 10, 2007
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... ^ Sorry, should be a "get" here....
Wei Dai
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Nov 10, 2007
5:40 am
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[In my first attempt at posting this, the head got cut off, so I'm reposting it. I will delete the old munged post of mine] The futarchy proposal seems to...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Nov 10, 2007
9:42 pm
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... That's a very good point Wei Dai. My formula worked only when the probability of enactment was 1/2. It needs to work for any value of that and right now...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Nov 11, 2007
8:15 pm
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Having given it some thought, and with thanks to Wei Dai for pointing out the problem, I think we can extract the desirability of P that we can meaningfully...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Nov 14, 2007
2:53 am
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In the last message, I suggested a formula for extracting Delta, the effect of P on GDP+, and I pointed out a problem extracting Delta at extreme values of...
tehom2000
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Nov 16, 2007
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Another question about futarchy that interests me is this: How can futarchy handle competing proposals? This is partly missing functionality and partly an...
tehom2000
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Jan 15, 2008
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An example to motivate concern about timing. The example is drawn from the time before railroad gauge was standardized. In the example, a region faces 3...
tehom2000
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Feb 25, 2008
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Hello Imagine a situation where a government was asked to pick between two competing standards. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray say (this war is now over) . Could they...
David Curran
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Feb 25, 2008
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... That's true, but the example wasn't really about which gauge to choose or how to choose it. It was about how a futarchy-type system can know whether it's...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Feb 25, 2008
6:05 pm
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An example illustrating the opposite side of the delay question. Sometimes waiting makes the situation worse. In a hypothetical city on the gulf coast,...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Feb 25, 2008
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In my last message, I concluded that a futarchy system would benefit from a mechanism that explicitly considers whether to delay a promising proposal or not....
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Mar 3, 2008
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... Your message implies that all attempts to avoid the opacity problem via human judgment require a single authority. I disagree. I suspect part of my...
Peter C. McCluskey
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Mar 23, 2008
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"Peter C. McCluskey" <pcm@...> writes: Peter, thank you for answering. It's good to have feedback to my (unintentionally so) monologs. ... Is that...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Mar 23, 2008
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Bhutan is trying to define national welfare http://www.physorg.com/news125462439.html "The main concerns have been identified as psychological well-being,...
David Curran
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Mar 25, 2008
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... It wasn't just the word monarchy. You also used "someone" and "that office", which all imply that you're imagining a centralized entity. -- ... Peter...
Peter C. McCluskey
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Mar 26, 2008
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... Life expectancy provides a fairly objective measure that is rather highly correlated with the concerns that I care about. Some care needs to be taken to...
Peter C. McCluskey
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Mar 26, 2008
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... I'm glad you asked that. I would include a component to measure self-reported satisfaction. Now, self-reported satisfaction ("happiness") is notoriously ...
Tom Breton (Tehom)
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