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  • Category: Economics
  • Founded: Oct 8, 2007
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(Reposted from my blog with minor edits) One idea in Futarchy is that GDP or some extension thereof is a reasonable proxy for happiness. Today an ...
3 Jan 3, 2012
7:59 pm

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Is what is happening at the moment in Italy a form of futarchy? "Italian bonds rose, pushing down yields from euro-era records, as the nation was pressed to...
3 Nov 13, 2011
9:58 am

David Curran
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Bhutan is trying to define national welfare http://www.physorg.com/news125462439.html "The main concerns have been identified as psychological well-being,...
13 Mar 1, 2010
2:38 am

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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There is a new competition to predict where murders in Philadelphia* *will occur http://www.analyticsx.com/ This seems similar to a prediction market for a...
1 Jan 6, 2010
10:02 am

David Curran
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It seems to me that this all boils down to trying to determine the price of something under a box. This is solved in a normal market by the seller refusing to...
5 Dec 21, 2009
3:13 am

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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... Not much, because nobody knows what would count as enacting it. ... True, but regardless which type got passed, Malcolm would want to show it after it's...
1 Dec 21, 2009
3:09 am

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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There is an interesting article here http://reason.com/news/show/135539.html on predictions about gay marriage "Why won't leading opponents of same-sex...
2 Aug 22, 2009
5:23 pm

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Howdy folks, My name is Paul Silva, I'm an entrepreneur who works primarily in the Angel Investing world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investing). I...
7 Feb 27, 2009
1:35 am

Paul G. Silva
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This description is borrowed from an earlier email I wrote. The scenario I worry about is that, under the futarchy mechanism, someone (call her Alice) makes a...
4 Feb 23, 2009
1:43 am

Paul G. Silva
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[image: Futarchy] Pronounced FEW-tark-ee. A theoretical government controlled in part by speculative markets. Coined by Robin D. Hanson of George Mason...
2 Dec 23, 2008
2:45 pm

David Curran
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You may be interested in this post: http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/11/03/futarchy-lite-2008/ Scathing criticism wanted. Mike...
1 Nov 3, 2008
3:12 pm

Mike Linksvayer
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I noticed the other day that the wikipedia page for futarchy is pretty bare. This is probably where most people are first introduced to the concept so even a...
1 May 23, 2008
8:13 am

David Curran
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A month ago we talked about how GDP+ might be measured (in "Measuring Welfare"). I suggested that part of GDP+ could be the sum of individual satisfaction...
1 May 23, 2008
2:56 am

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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I wrote a review (in two parts: http://www.bayesianinvestor.com/blog/index.php/2008/04/15/predictocracy-part-1/ and ...
3 May 2, 2008
9:59 pm

Peter C. McCluskey
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In the last post I described the Opacity Problem, a serious problem with futarchy. If you haven't read it, you will need to have read it to understand this...
4 Mar 26, 2008
3:33 am

Peter C. McCluskey
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In my last message, I concluded that a futarchy system would benefit from a mechanism that explicitly considers whether to delay a promising proposal or not....
1 Mar 3, 2008
10:06 pm

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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An example illustrating the opposite side of the delay question. Sometimes waiting makes the situation worse. In a hypothetical city on the gulf coast,...
1 Feb 25, 2008
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Tom Breton (Tehom)
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An example to motivate concern about timing. The example is drawn from the time before railroad gauge was standardized. In the example, a region faces 3...
3 Feb 25, 2008
6:05 pm

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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Another question about futarchy that interests me is this: How can futarchy handle competing proposals? This is partly missing functionality and partly an...
1 Jan 15, 2008
11:31 pm

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In the last message, I suggested a formula for extracting Delta, the effect of P on GDP+, and I pointed out a problem extracting Delta at extreme values of...
1 Nov 16, 2007
6:58 pm

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Sorry, I meant to look over your previous post, but forgot to. ... I don't see how this works... Wouldn't the price of "yes" be: p(P) * ((call(GDP+) + c1 -...
3 Nov 14, 2007
2:53 am

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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that constitutes enactment. One candidate for a "trigger" is obvious: When it is somehow decided to go forward with the proposal, this event itself constitutes...
1 Nov 10, 2007
9:42 pm

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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One feature that distinguishes futarchy with standard prediction markets is the "call off" feature. For every policy proposed, there are two markets created,...
4 Nov 10, 2007
5:40 am

Wei Dai
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... Are you saying that the proposal will pass if the following is true? price("yes") - price("no") > 2 * (call(GDP+) - put(GDP+)) + fixed_threshold If so, are...
2 Oct 30, 2007
1:36 am

Tom Breton (Tehom)
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In an earlier message I proposed that the Opacity Problem might be tamed by using controlled language and a complexity metric. Proposal: * Require that...
1 Oct 19, 2007
11:58 pm

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In an earlier message I proposed that the Opacity Problem might be tamed by using a parallel market to estimate uncertainty. How might a parallel market...
1 Oct 15, 2007
11:51 pm

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First, you need to be familiar with Idea Futures in order to make sense of this. If you're not, please read "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is" Meets The...
1 Oct 13, 2007
12:21 am

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It's easier to explain futarchy if I first explain Idea Futures, another idea Robin Hanson had. So without further ado, "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is"...
1 Oct 13, 2007
12:17 am

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Welcome! This group exists to discuss futarchy, Robin Hanson's idea. He summarizes it as "Vote on values but bet on beliefs". For a non-technical...
1 Oct 13, 2007
12:14 am

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