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Tristan, Generally SAMPA /2/ = /ø/. Here, too. As always with historical linguistics it is difficult, if not impossible, to determine the exact sound, e.g. ...
daniel prohaska
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907
... Which means I must have my head on backwards concerning the various treatments of PN /e/ as affected by u-breaking in West Norse and East Norse. Certainly...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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Dec 1, 2004
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908
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:06:03 +0100, daniel prohaska ... Thanks ... My germaniconlang is West Germanic :) ... I think it was just my idea of what a merger...
Tristan Mc Leay
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... I think it may be because Modern Icelandic orthography uses <ö> for the sound that developed from Old Norse /O/ (which in normalized Old Icelandic...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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wow, my question seems to have raised quite a debate here. i must admit that my way of spelling was a little unclear: i actually employed the standard most...

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Thanks, Benct, for this great resource!!! Dan ________________________________________ Von: Benct Philip Jonsson [mailto:melroch@...] Gesendet: Montag,...
Daniel Prohaska
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912
... Sorry, Carl, I can't really help you here. I'm far more familiar with West Norse phonology than with East Norse. But I have thought about this before, ...
daniel prohaska
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... So what you are saying is that these are subsequent developments: First u-breaking: /e/ < [jo]: C + /e/ + C + /u/ /e/ < [jo]: C + /e/ + CC +...
daniel prohaska
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:34:00 +0100, daniel prohaska ... I think you've confused Jú and me (Tristan). -- Tristan...
Tristan Mc Leay
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Dec 2, 2004
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915
... OK, I dragged out a photocopy I had buried somewhere of J.Voyles _Early Gmc. Grammar_ (not the end-all and be-all, but serviceable) and he suggests...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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Dec 2, 2004
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916
Sorry, Tristan and Jú - wasn't intentional. Dan...
daniel prohaska
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Dec 2, 2004
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917
... This gives me an idea for a conculture where all confusion *is* intentional. ... "I have confused myself on purpose." Jamets -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --...
Älvard J. te Kraam...
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... I guess I should have specified I mean SAMPA /O/ by this :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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919
... I realize I misrepresented this somewhat. According to Voyles, shift of stress in rising diphthongs causes *earþu > *eörþu (where /ö/ is /O/). I...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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Dec 2, 2004
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920
... No, if there is the right context for a-breaking there is no appropriate environment for u-umlaut. Synchronically u-breaking *looks* like u-umlauted...
Benct Philip Jonsson
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921
... <daniel@r...> wrote: What I can't see happening is both changes [jo] < [jø] because a /u/ ending would have been necessary to cause /e/ < [jo] and an /au/...

julianrott
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922
... That may be! I'm out of my depth here :) But surely there is no a-breaking in *erþu or *nerþuz? Unless ... perhaps you mean a-breaking caused from a...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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923
... Yes there is a-breaking in the genitive singular _jarðar_ and genitive plural _jarða_ (not that gen.pl. of "earth" occurs very often...) -- /BP 8^)> -- ...
Benct Philip Jonsson
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Dec 3, 2004
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924
... OK, so is it only the operation or failure of paradigmatic levelling that seperates East Norse <iorþ> from East Norse *NjarþR, in that the latter's /ja/...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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925
... Benct, Doesn't the gen.pl. occur a lot in compound nouns? Dan...
daniel prohaska
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Dec 3, 2004
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926
... I'm pretty sure I remember a number of compound nouns starting with jarð-, at least, and some with jarðar- .... I can see why there might be fewer...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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Dec 3, 2004
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927
... No, I must have got you wrong before. I thought you were proposing such a change - but now it makes sense that it didn't make sense. ... I wasn't saying...
daniel prohaska
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Dec 3, 2004
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928
... Well, East Norse had /jAk/ in contrast to West Norse /ek/; a-breaking in EN but not in WN? :) I'm not sure. Nor am I sure what the explanation for...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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Dec 3, 2004
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929
... Maybe you could point me towards that timeline - I couldn't find it. Thanks. ... So are you saying that all case endings (sg. and pl.?) were spontaneously...
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930
... Yes, but it would not in a "singular tantum", it would be gen.sg. there, as in the modern _jarðarfræði_ "geology". -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson...
Benct Philip Jonsson
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... Yes, exactly! -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant! (Tacitus)...
Benct Philip Jonsson
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932
... Fair enough! Any ideas on why a-breaking failed in WN here? Not through analogical levelling with other parts of the 1st person pronoun paradigm, surely...
Carl Edlund Anderson
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933
... Lack of stress because the word was clitic is the traditional explanation. BTW u-breaking is weird even in East Scandinavian: *melku becomes _melk_ in...
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934
Are there any Frisian experts here? (I've tried the Fryske Akademy, but apart from a brief reply stating they'd see if they could find the information, I've...
Älvard J. te Kraam...
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Dec 6, 2004
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... The etymology of "tizzy" is not known, but it's unlikely to be an inherited word, due to the lack of citations before the 20th century. -- John Cowan...
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