Well, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 on my ThinkPad W500 and it works gr8. About running Windows apps on Ubuntu, you will need to install wine (short for "WINdows Emulator) You must understand however that wine does not mean all windows programs will necessary runs on it, or runs well.
I don't know about laptop coming preinstalled with some Linux version, thought Dell used to sell Ubuntu based laptops till recently.
Hope this helps, Hagai
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Yaakov <webdoar@...> wrote:
Shalom; I'm totally new to this subject yet very inetersted.
What type of linux OS is best for laptops? What addon(s) would one need to use Windows based programs inside Linux & would this mean a slowdown of functioning?
What laptops are available with a linux OS already on it?
Todah
Yaakov
Actually, WINE is an acronym for W_ine I_s N_ot an E_mulator, because it allows Windows programs written for the underlying architecture to run natively. The only thing Wine does is catch the system calls and make the program "think" there is a Windows system providing
services.
Supposedly the original intention of the authors was that WINE would in fact mean WINdows Emulator, but that changed long ago.
I use Wine myself, and am pretty happy with it, but you must be aware that it is definitely limited.
In general, you will be better off using real Linux applications on a Linux system. I use Wine for a few things that I am semi-addicted to ;-) (I also installed DOSEMU and run a few DOS based apps!)
Well, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 on my ThinkPad W500 and it works gr8. About running Windows apps on Ubuntu, you will need to install wine (short for "WINdows Emulator) You must understand however that wine does not mean all windows programs will necessary runs on it, or runs well.
I don't know about laptop coming preinstalled with some Linux version, thought Dell used to sell Ubuntu based laptops till recently.
Hope this helps, Hagai
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Yaakov <webdoar@...> wrote:
Shalom; I'm totally new to this subject yet very inetersted.
What type of linux OS is best for laptops? What addon(s) would one need to use Windows based programs inside Linux & would this mean a slowdown of functioning?
What laptops are available with a linux OS already on it?
Todah
Yaakov
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Shimon Lebowitz <shimonleb@...> wrote:
Actually, WINE is an acronym for W_ine I_s N_ot an E_mulator, because it allows Windows programs written for the underlying architecture to run natively. The only thing Wine does is catch
the system calls and make the program "think" there is a Windows system providing
services.
Supposedly the original intention of the authors was that WINE would in fact mean WINdows Emulator, but that changed long ago.
I use Wine myself, and am pretty happy with it, but you must be aware that it is definitely limited.
In general, you will be better off using real Linux applications on a Linux system. I use Wine for a few things that I am semi-addicted to ;-) (I also installed DOSEMU and run a few DOS based apps!)
Well, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 on my ThinkPad W500 and it works gr8. About running Windows apps on Ubuntu, you will need to install wine (short for "WINdows Emulator) You must understand however that wine does not mean all windows programs will necessary runs on it, or runs well.
I don't know about laptop coming preinstalled with some Linux version, thought Dell used to sell Ubuntu based laptops till recently.
Hope this helps, Hagai
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Yaakov <webdoar@...> wrote:
Shalom; I'm totally new to this subject yet very inetersted.
What type of linux OS is best for laptops? What addon(s) would one need to use Windows based programs inside Linux & would this mean a slowdown of functioning?
What laptops are available with a linux OS already on it?
Todah
Yaakov
Hi Yaakov,
On Tuesday 11 Jan 2011 01:43:08 Yaakov wrote:
> Shalom; I'm totally new to this subject yet very inetersted.
> What type of linux OS is best for laptops?
Well, I've successfully installed Mandriva Linux on my Acer Laptop. Here are
its specs:
http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#computers-specs
There's a list of some other recommended distributions for beginners (which
are usually also useful for advanced users too) here:
http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/How_to_start_contributing_to_or_using_Op\
en_Source_Software
> What addon(s) would one need to
> use Windows based programs inside Linux & would this mean a slowdown of
> functioning?
Well, like other people said, you can run Windows and DOS applications using
WINE (wine is not an emulator), which is not guaranteed to always run these
applications correctly, due to the complexity and quirkiness of the Windows
operating systems and duplicating its implementation. You can also run Windows
inside a virtual machine, such as VirtualBox. A Virtual Machine emulator will
likely run the guest OS at a reduced speed, but it usually will be fast
enough. WINE is fast enough to run many Windows-based games.
>
> What laptops are available with a linux OS already on it?
I don't know. I've bought my laptop with Windows 7 pre-installed and kept the
Windows installation there in case I would need it. I did repartition the hard
disk to make room for the Mandriva installation, but I can still boot into the
Windows 7 partition if I wish.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Yaakov <webdoar@...> wrote:
> What type of linux OS is best for laptops?
Most modern Linux distributions will work out of the box on any standard
laptop.
Additionally both Ubuntu 10.10, KUbuntu 10.10 and Fedora 14 worked
nicely for me, though Ubuntu has lately gone a bit too much "touch
interface" for my taste: it works great if you have a touch screen on
your laptop (there are some like that) but otherwise its not very
convenient (IMHO).
> What addon(s) would one need to use Windows based programs inside
Linux & would this mean a slowdown of functioning?
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 13:40 +0200, kopolov@... wrote:
> About running Windows apps on Ubuntu, you will need to install wine
> (short for "WINdows Emulator)
WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator.
Because its not an emulator -it does not emulate anything but lets the
Windows binary's x86 code run directly on your x86 CPU - it just
translates the WIN32 API calls to X11 calls in a mostly straight-forward
manner. As a result performance is largely comparable to running the
same application on a "real Windows" with the same hardware. The main
exceptions are that compared to Vista/7 Windows apps are expected to run
slightly better because of the better memory management of Linux, and
DirectX games are expected to run slightly slower because the 3D driver
support for Linux is not as good as in Windows.
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BS"D Thank you all for good relevant information & advice. Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a particular program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be checked for Linux compliance?
Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen" performance. So what if I do not have a touch screen. Would it be better to get a different Linux build?
I don't look for being able to play around with tinkering & geeking & tweaking. I am very simply looking for a reliable stable OS, that I can run my programs on without the headaches of MS Win's. I need for documents, scanning, handling voice & music recordings, photos, & the medical programs (which use graphics) for my (mostly charity) clinic.
As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional than MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different language types in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl). Inserting pictures & drawing was complicated too.
Todah.Thanks YAakov
--
Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
Just to let you know that I use OpenOffice, in English *and* Hebrew, and once I got it set up, it works fine for me. I mostly use Writer (instead of "Word"), so I cannot say much about the other programs.
One of the most important features I had to put in was "Right-to-Left" toolbar icon, which makes all the punctuation work like in Hebrew. Until I got that set up, Hebrew looked a mess.
About what distro... wow... that is almost a religious question!! Everyone KNOWS
that the one THEY use is best!! :-) (I am on PCLINUXOS 2009, because I did not like the changes they put into 2010 version).
Also, remember that different distros use different desktop GUIs. For example, I have been using KDE for years, but many use Gnome (I believe Ubuntu among them).
So you might want to read about the various desktops before you decide.
Shimon
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Yaakov Bar Nahman <webdoar@...> wrote:
BS"D Thank you all for good relevant information & advice. Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a particular program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be checked for Linux compliance?
Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen" performance. So what if I do not have a touch screen. Would it be better to get a different Linux build?
I don't look for being able to play around with tinkering & geeking & tweaking. I am very simply looking for a reliable stable OS, that I can run my programs on without the headaches of MS Win's. I need for documents, scanning, handling voice & music recordings, photos, & the medical programs (which use graphics) for my (mostly charity) clinic.
As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional than MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different language types in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl). Inserting pictures & drawing was complicated too.
Todah.Thanks YAakov
--
Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
“All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke
On Tuesday 11 Jan 2011 21:38:45 Yaakov Bar Nahman wrote:
> BS"D
> Thank you all for good relevant information & advice.
> Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a particular
> program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be checked for Linux
> compliance?
What? What do you mean by checked for Linux compliance?
>
> Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen" performance.
> So what if I do not have a touch screen. Would it be better to get a
> different Linux build?
Ubuntu works fine without a touch screen.
>
> I don't look for being able to play around with tinkering & geeking &
> tweaking. I am very simply looking for a reliable stable OS, that I can run
> my programs on without the headaches of MS Win's. I need for documents,
> scanning, handling voice & music recordings, photos, & the medical programs
> (which use graphics) for my (mostly charity) clinic.
>
Well, if any of these medical programs don't have native versions, you may
have to use WINE or VirtualBox or whatever.
> As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional than
> MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different language types
> in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl).
OpenOffice.org is indeed missing many features that MS Office has. That is
expected, and hopefully this situation will improve in the future (possibly
thanks to the recent LibreOffice fork).
However, it has pretty good support for Bidirectional editing, though it uses
Unicode as its model for that instead of Microsoft's different Unicode model.
> Inserting pictures &
> drawing was complicated too.
>
It should be doable.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> Todah.Thanks
> YAakov
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On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 21:38 +0200, Yaakov Bar Nahman wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a
> particular program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be
> checked for Linux compliance?
I don't think that something like that exist. If its a software that's
available for the general public, then it probably is listed in Wine's
application database: http://appdb.winehq.org/
Otherwise - you'd just have to try for yourself.
> Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen"
a. That is 10.10 and not 10.1: it's a date (October 2010) not a decimal
number.
b. The default laptop experience for Ubuntu 10.10 is what they call
"Unity" which is very much geared towards touch screens. If you are
interested in a more "classic" desktop experience then you only need to
install Ubuntu normally and when the login screen comes up - from the
bottom "session" menu select "Classic Desktop".
> I need for documents, scanning, handling voice & music recordings,
> photos, & the medical programs (which use graphics) for my (mostly
> charity) clinic.
Free Linux native software is available for most of these, so you
wouldn't need to rely on running Windows programs - except for probably
your medical programs which I guess were not written with Linux in mind
- these you'd need to run on Wine and its also likely it won't run nice
on Wine - because niche software tends to be like that.
I would've put up some virtual machine based setup but that will take
some know-how to set up properly.
> As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional
> than MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different
> language types in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl).
> Inserting pictures & drawing was complicated too.
If you need an office suite and OpenOffice.org is not to your liking,
tthen you are left with very few options. If you have a Microsoft Office
license, and you're willing to run an earlier version of MS-Office
(2007, maybe 2003) then I suggest you purchase a copy of Crossover
Office (for something like $30) which is a product based on Wine that is
optimized to run Microsoft Office under Linux (and many other popular
Windows software titles), that is very easy to setup and get going and
there is no tweaking or geeking involved ;-) They don't support the
latest Microsoft Office, but they'd get you going easily with an earlier
version.
Shimon Todah! Does this work in either the "English" version or the "Hebrew" version or in either? What is the difference/similarity between "Writer" & "Word" (if that is not toooo long & difficult to answer)?
How do I put in the "Right-to-Left" toolbar icon? Is there any other feature important for Hebrew?
Maybe my Question should be which distro' is simplest to use with still being able to do important basic functions (e.g. I don't need one with all kinds of "customizations" features)?
todah raba Yaakov
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Shimon Lebowitz <shimonleb@...> wrote:
Just to let you know that I use OpenOffice, in English *and* Hebrew, and once I got it set up, it works fine for me. I mostly use Writer (instead of "Word"), so I cannot say much about the other programs.
One of the most important features I had to put in was "Right-to-Left" toolbar icon, which makes all the punctuation work like in Hebrew. Until I got that set up, Hebrew looked a mess.
About what distro... wow... that is almost a religious question!! Everyone KNOWS
that the one THEY use is best!! :-) (I am on PCLINUXOS 2009, because I did not like the changes they put into 2010 version).
Also, remember that different distros use different desktop GUIs. For example, I have been using KDE for years, but many use Gnome (I believe Ubuntu among them).
So you might want to read about the various desktops before you decide.
Shimon
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Yaakov Bar Nahman <webdoar@...> wrote:
BS"D Thank you all for good relevant information & advice. Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a particular program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be checked for Linux compliance?
Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen" performance. So what if I do not have a touch screen. Would it be better to get a different Linux build?
I don't look for being able to play around with tinkering & geeking & tweaking. I am very simply looking for a reliable stable OS, that I can run my programs on without the headaches of MS Win's. I need for documents, scanning, handling voice & music recordings, photos, & the medical programs (which use graphics) for my (mostly charity) clinic.
As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional than MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different language types in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl). Inserting pictures & drawing was complicated too.
Todah.Thanks YAakov
--
Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
--
Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Oded Arbel <oded-gnubies@...> wrote:
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 21:38 +0200, Yaakov Bar Nahman wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a
> particular program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be
> checked for Linux compliance?
I don't think that something like that exist. If its a software that's
available for the general public, then it probably is listed in Wine's
application database: http://appdb.winehq.org/
Otherwise - you'd just have to try for yourself.
> Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen"
a. That is 10.10 and not 10.1: it's a date (October 2010) not a decimal
number.
b. The default laptop experience for Ubuntu 10.10 is what they call
"Unity" which is very much geared towards touch screens. If you are
interested in a more "classic" desktop experience then you only need to
install Ubuntu normally and when the login screen comes up - from the
bottom "session" menu select "Classic Desktop".
> I need for documents, scanning, handling voice & music recordings,
> photos, & the medical programs (which use graphics) for my (mostly
> charity) clinic.
Free Linux native software is available for most of these, so you
wouldn't need to rely on running Windows programs - except for probably
your medical programs which I guess were not written with Linux in mind
- these you'd need to run on Wine and its also likely it won't run nice
on Wine - because niche software tends to be like that.
I would've put up some virtual machine based setup but that will take
some know-how to set up properly.
> As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional
> than MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different
> language types in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl).
> Inserting pictures & drawing was complicated too.
If you need an office suite and OpenOffice.org is not to your liking,
tthen you are left with very few options. If you have a Microsoft Office
license, and you're willing to run an earlier version of MS-Office
(2007, maybe 2003) then I suggest you purchase a copy of Crossover
Office (for something like $30) which is a product based on Wine that is
optimized to run Microsoft Office under Linux (and many other popular
Windows software titles), that is very easy to setup and get going and
there is no tweaking or geeking involved ;-) They don't support the
latest Microsoft Office, but they'd get you going easily with an earlier
version.
Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
I don't really remember installing a "Hebrew version". Actually, my guess would be that a Hebrew version means that the menus and such appear in Hebrew, which I personally would NOT want (I am a native English speaker).
Before I go into any details I will mention that my OO is 3.0.0, and it is quite possible that there are newer versions, which might work differently.
In order to put the RtL icon in the Formatting toolbar, try this:
click View -> Toolbars and make sure the Formatting toolbar is turned on. Then, again click View -> Toolbars -> Customize (this is at the bottom of the menu, below all the toolbar names).
Customize pops up a window, which has at the top a place to choose
the toolbar you want to work with, and a drop-down list of them. Click the down-arrow of the list, and change the setting from Standard to Formatting.
Now look at the Commands box below the toolbar name.
As you scroll down you see the function names of the various icons on that toolbar, and lines of dashes (hyphens) between groups of related functions. After the alignment options (align left, centered, right, justified) I have a group separator, followed by LtR and RtL.
You can put these in by clicking on the last alignment option, to select it, then click the Modify button on the right, and choose "Begin a group" from its list. This will put in a group separator line.
Then Click the Add button (right above the Modify).
The Add button gives you a new window with a gazillion (or, in Hebrew: malant-alafim) possible functions to add to the toolbar. First, in the left panel,
choose the Format category. Then, in the right panel, choose the Left-to-Right
command, and then click the Add button on the right. Now scroll down in the Commands list till Right-to-Left, select it, and again click Add. Now click Close. and then OK to leave the Customize window.
Your toolbar is ready for Hebrew!
But, I just remembered another VERY IMPORTANT setting for working with Hebrew. Click Tools -> Options In the navigation tree of the Options panel, on the left, go to the Language Settings section. If the section is collapsed (and shows a + next to it),
then click the + to open it (+ changes to -), and see the contents of the section. Click on Languages to open the Languages options panel.
This panel has three areas, the bottom one is called Enhanced Language Support. Make sure that the second option,
Enabled for Complex Text Layout (CTL) is checked!! Once this option is turned on, it enables the CTL option in the center section, called Default Language for Documents.
Set the CTL language to Hebrew. Click OK.
I hope this helps!! Shimon
P.S. lots of distros either claim, or have adherents who claim for them, to be "just right" for people with previous Windows experience. Try Google. :-) in any event, I think almost any but the most extreme Linux fanatic will
agree that there is NO Linux distribution available that will work perfectly "out of the box", the way people have gotten used to Windows working. Sorry.
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Yaakov Bar Nahman <webdoar@...> wrote:
Shimon Todah! Does this work in either the "English" version or the "Hebrew" version or in either? What is the difference/similarity between "Writer" & "Word" (if that is not toooo long & difficult to answer)?
How do I put in the "Right-to-Left" toolbar icon? Is there any other feature important for Hebrew?
Maybe my Question should be which distro' is simplest to use with still being able to do important basic functions (e.g. I don't need one with all kinds of "customizations" features)?
todah raba Yaakov
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Shimon Lebowitz <shimonleb@...> wrote:
Just to let you know that I use OpenOffice, in English *and* Hebrew, and once I got it set up, it works fine for me. I mostly use Writer (instead of "Word"), so I cannot say much about the other programs.
One of the most important features I had to put in was "Right-to-Left" toolbar icon, which makes all the punctuation work like in Hebrew. Until I got that set up, Hebrew looked a mess.
About what distro... wow... that is almost a religious question!! Everyone KNOWS
that the one THEY use is best!! :-) (I am on PCLINUXOS 2009, because I did not like the changes they put into 2010 version).
Also, remember that different distros use different desktop GUIs. For example, I have been using KDE for years, but many use Gnome (I believe Ubuntu among them).
So you might want to read about the various desktops before you decide.
Shimon
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Yaakov Bar Nahman <webdoar@...> wrote:
BS"D Thank you all for good relevant information & advice. Does anyone know if there is a place I could send a copy of a particular program, or relevant part of a program, for to to be checked for Linux compliance?
Also I read that Ubuntu 10.1 has become heavily "touch screen" performance. So what if I do not have a touch screen. Would it be better to get a different Linux build?
I don't look for being able to play around with tinkering & geeking & tweaking. I am very simply looking for a reliable stable OS, that I can run my programs on without the headaches of MS Win's. I need for documents, scanning, handling voice & music recordings, photos, & the medical programs (which use graphics) for my (mostly charity) clinic.
As for "Open Office" I tried it and was disappointed. Less functional than MS Office & a real bummer when I wanted to put 2 different language types in the same document (i.e. 1 ltr & the other rtl). Inserting pictures & drawing was complicated too.
Todah.Thanks YAakov
--
Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
“All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke
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Hhaza"l said: "Ein Torah lelo derekh eress" Rav Shalom Arush says: "Torah study that is done with insulting or degrading another gives power to the "dark side"". Que el Creador sigui amb vosaltres ("May the Creator be with you" in Catalan) Charlie Chan said: "Hunger is cured by food, ignorance by study".
“All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke
I have Windows 7 on my laptop, I tried to install Ubuntu 10.04 side by side,
when I choose Ubuntu from the start menu everything works fine, but when I
choose and start Windows and do restart or shut down the laptop does not find
any operation system and can't start, (I think the grub is corrupted by windows)
It has happened a few times.
Does anyone know this problem?
Hi Noa,
On Monday 21 Feb 2011 11:07:12 noa78@... wrote:
> I have Windows 7 on my laptop, I tried to install Ubuntu 10.04 side by
> side, when I choose Ubuntu from the start menu everything works fine, but
> when I choose and start Windows and do restart or shut down the laptop
> does not find any operation system and can't start, (I think the grub is
> corrupted by windows) It has happened a few times.
> Does anyone know this problem?
What is written on the laptop's screen when Win7 attempts to boot? I think we
need more details.
Finally, I should note that you may have better like asking that on
http://www.iglu.org.il/mailing-lists/linux-il.html or on the whatsup.org.il
forums. Note that Linux-IL should be OK with newbie discussions now.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Hi
I am a super-gnuby. I am learning as I go along.
So far I succeed in installing the Fedora 15 with Hebrew support. I can read
Hebrew and all my menus are in Hebrew but I can't write Hebrew.
I tried a search and found all the answers were KDE. The Fedora uses Gnome 3.
Can anybody help me with a simple answer how to solve the Hebrew writing
problem?
Thanks in advance
Chaim
Hi Chaim,
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:14:55 -0000
"chaim.seymour" <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am a super-gnuby. I am learning as I go along.
>
> So far I succeed in installing the Fedora 15 with Hebrew support. I can read
Hebrew and all my menus are in Hebrew but I can't write Hebrew.
>
> I tried a search and found all the answers were KDE. The Fedora uses Gnome 3.
Can anybody help me with a simple answer how to solve the Hebrew writing
problem?
>
Try putting this line in a text file called .Xkbmap (note the "." and the
capital "X") in your home directory:
«
-option compose:ralt,grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
-variant ,lyx us,il »
Then you'll be able to type LeftAlt+LeftShift to switch to Hebrew.
For more information, see my tip here:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/43351
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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Hi all
Many thanks to Shlomi. I still seem to need your collective wisdom.
I set up the file: .Xkbmap. I took the content from the editor by
cut/paste. I don't see the file in my file-cabinet, but the xterminal
reads it when I give a 'more' command.
I installed SBL Hebrew and can see it in the list of fonts within Open
Office.
However, I still don't have Hebrew printing in Open Office, Xterminal,
Chrome or Evolution.
I must be doing something wrong. Does anybody have any ideas?
Chaim
On ה', 2011-09-22 at 12:38 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi Chaim,
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:14:55 -0000
> "chaim.seymour" <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I am a super-gnuby. I am learning as I go along.
> >
> > So far I succeed in installing the Fedora 15 with Hebrew support. I can read
Hebrew and all my menus are in Hebrew but I can't write Hebrew.
> >
> > I tried a search and found all the answers were KDE. The Fedora uses Gnome
3. Can anybody help me with a simple answer how to solve the Hebrew writing
problem?
> >
>
> Try putting this line in a text file called .Xkbmap (note the "." and the
> capital "X") in your home directory:
>
> «
> -option compose:ralt,grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
> -variant ,lyx us,il »
>
> Then you'll be able to type LeftAlt+LeftShift to switch to Hebrew.
>
> For more information, see my tip here:
>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/43351
>
> Regards,
>
> Shlomi Fish
>
>
Hi Chaim,
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:51:44 +0300
Chaim Seymour <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Many thanks to Shlomi. I still seem to need your collective wisdom.
>
> I set up the file: .Xkbmap. I took the content from the editor by
> cut/paste. I don't see the file in my file-cabinet,
that's because files with a leading period (".") are considered hidden.
> but the xterminal
> reads it when I give a 'more' command.
>
OK, I should note that generally the "less" command is superior to more and you
should use it instead. To exit it press "q".
> I installed SBL Hebrew and can see it in the list of fonts within Open
> Office.
>
> However, I still don't have Hebrew printing in Open Office, Xterminal,
> Chrome or Evolution.
Do you mean Hebrew "typing" (הקלדה) rather than Hebrew "printing"
(הדפסה)? If
so, you should try restarting your X session for the ".Xkbmap" file to take
effect.
You can apply such a file immediately by saying:
$ setxkbmap $(cat .Xkbmap)
But this won't test that it is a permanent change.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
>
> I must be doing something wrong. Does anybody have any ideas?
>
> Chaim
>
> On ה', 2011-09-22 at 12:38 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi Chaim,
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:14:55 -0000
> > "chaim.seymour" <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am a super-gnuby. I am learning as I go along.
> > >
> > > So far I succeed in installing the Fedora 15 with Hebrew support. I can
read Hebrew and all my menus are in Hebrew but I can't write Hebrew.
> > >
> > > I tried a search and found all the answers were KDE. The Fedora uses Gnome
3. Can anybody help me with a simple answer how to solve the Hebrew writing
problem?
> > >
> >
> > Try putting this line in a text file called .Xkbmap (note the "." and the
> > capital "X") in your home directory:
> >
> > «
> > -option compose:ralt,grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
> > -variant ,lyx us,il »
> >
> > Then you'll be able to type LeftAlt+LeftShift to switch to Hebrew.
> >
> > For more information, see my tip here:
> >
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/43351
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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> Hi all
>
> Many thanks to Shlomi. I still seem to need your collective wisdom.
>
> I set up the file: .Xkbmap. I took the content from the editor by
> cut/paste. I don't see the file in my file-cabinet,
that's because files with a leading period (".") are considered hidden.
> but the xterminal
> reads it when I give a 'more' command.
>
OK, I should note that generally the "less" command is superior to more and you
should use it instead. To exit it press "q".
> I installed SBL Hebrew and can see it in the list of fonts within Open
> Office.
>
> However, I still don't have Hebrew printing in Open Office, Xterminal,
> Chrome or Evolution.
Do you mean Hebrew "typing" (הקלדה) rather than Hebrew "printing" (הדפסה)? If
so, you should try restarting your X session for the ".Xkbmap" file to take
effect.
You can apply such a file immediately by saying:
$ setxkbmap $(cat .Xkbmap)
But this won't test that it is a permanent change.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
>
> I must be doing something wrong. Does anybody have any ideas?
>
> Chaim
>
> On ה', 2011-09-22 at 12:38 +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi Chaim,
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:14:55 -0000
> > "chaim.seymour" <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am a super-gnuby. I am learning as I go along.
> > >
> > > So far I succeed in installing the Fedora 15 with Hebrew support. I can read Hebrew and all my menus are in Hebrew but I can't write Hebrew.
> > >
> > > I tried a search and found all the answers were KDE. The Fedora uses Gnome 3. Can anybody help me with a simple answer how to solve the Hebrew writing problem?
> > >
> >
> > Try putting this line in a text file called .Xkbmap (note the "." and the
> > capital "X") in your home directory:
> >
> > «
> > -option compose:ralt,grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
> > -variant ,lyx us,il »
> >
> > Then you'll be able to type LeftAlt+LeftShift to switch to Hebrew.
> >
> > For more information, see my tip here:
> >
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/43351
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Hi Chaim,
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:01:59 +0300
Chaim Seymour <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I followed your advice to see if the file works. The 'cat' command
> reproduced the file, but I still don't have Hebrew.
>
Does this command work for the current session (in a terminal)?
setxkbmap $(cat .Xkbmap)
> I assume that I am doing something stupid and the whole thing is something
> minor.
>
> I tried the Google virtual keyboard and it works beautifully. The pity is
> that it can't be used on other applications
>
> shabbat shalom
>
Shabbath Shalom and Shanah Tovah.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> Chaim
>
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> I followed your advice to see if the file works. The 'cat' command
> reproduced the file, but I still don't have Hebrew.
>
Does this command work for the current session (in a terminal)?
setxkbmap $(cat .Xkbmap)
> I assume that I am doing something stupid and the whole thing is something
> minor.
>
> I tried the Google virtual keyboard and it works beautifully. The pity is
> that it can't be used on other applications
>
> shabbat shalom
>
There is no IGLU Cabal! Home‐made Cabals eventually superseded the power and
influence of the original IGLU Cabal, which was considered a cutting edge
development at its time.
Hi
I installed Skype. I am using an HP Pavilion laptop. The Webcam works. If I
connect an external microphone, it works. The built in microphone doesn't work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Chaim
Did you tried to set the built in microphone as the default microphone via the sound settings (in Ubuntu its system -> Preferences -> Sound -> input tag -> select the microphone)
I installed Skype. I am using an HP Pavilion laptop. The Webcam works. If I connect an external microphone, it works. The built in microphone doesn't work.
I didn't see anything like that in Fedora, but I don't have an external microphone plugged in at all when the built in microphone works.
Anyway, I started working on the Fedora with very little knowledge and there are a number of things which I did, which I am unhappy with and which I would do differently now. I decided to reinstall and then I'll install Skype at a much earlier stage and see if it makes any difference
Did you tried to set the built in microphone as the default microphone via the sound settings (in Ubuntu its system -> Preferences -> Sound -> input tag -> select the microphone)
I installed Skype. I am using an HP Pavilion laptop. The Webcam works. If I connect an external microphone, it works. The built in microphone doesn't work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Chaim
-- Chaim Seymour David Elazar 8 Givat Shemuel 54032 Israel tel: 972-3-5320560
Are you using Fedora with KDE or Gnome? (If I remember correctly, Fedora comes with Gnome as default). I'm sure there are sound preferences there as well (probably on a similar location).
When I enter my sound services, I can speak and test that the currently selected microphone is indeed working properly.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Chaim Seymour <chaim.seymour@...> wrote:
Hi
I didn't see anything like that in Fedora, but I don't have an external microphone plugged in at all when the built in microphone works.
Anyway, I started working on the Fedora with very little knowledge and there are a number of things which I did, which I am unhappy with and which I would do differently now. I decided to reinstall and then I'll install Skype at a much earlier stage and see if it makes any difference
Did you tried to set the built in microphone as the default microphone via the sound settings (in Ubuntu its system -> Preferences -> Sound -> input tag -> select the microphone)
I installed Skype. I am using an HP Pavilion laptop. The Webcam works. If I connect an external microphone, it works. The built in microphone doesn't work.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Chaim
-- Chaim Seymour David Elazar 8 Givat Shemuel 54032 Israel tel: 972-3-5320560
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