Such as the way that Greek by the time of Cyril/Methodius that B had become V, so
they had to come up with an alternate for B.
I know Latin, as on the...
1044
Mike Adams
abrigon@...
Oct 1, 1999 9:49 am
Well since the Hittites, atleast the ones who came out of Eastern Europe/Western
Asia some time around 500 BC or there abouts, were Indoeuropeans, then there...
1045
Pagliarulo Giuseppe
g.pagliarulo@...
Oct 1, 1999 12:51 pm
What this brings to my mind is corrupted Gothic filtered through Romance ears. I don't feel qualified to comment on it; remember, however, that: <ae>...
1046
Tore Gannholm
tore@...
Oct 1, 1999 7:45 pm
We know of turkish people in the south of Russia in the 6th-10th century. They had a country around the river Volga called Bulgar. There they came in contact...
1047
jdm314@...
Oct 1, 1999 9:00 pm
OK, I just wanted to rerequest a couple of words from my neologism wish-list. Specifically, for totally obscure reasons involving the nicknames of certain...
1048
David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 2, 1999 1:16 am
... I can't speak off-hand to the origin of Kröte, but toad < OE táde looks like it should correspond to !taido. Skildutaido? Or you could try Skildufisks...
1049
David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 2, 1999 2:19 am
I had a hunch that the author of the letter-names document was familiar with the writing system of something besides Latin (which does not use, for instance,...
1050
Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Oct 2, 1999 7:04 am
Thanks for a very interesting contribution to the list. According to Omeljan Pritsak in _The Origin of Rus_ the Gothic Ylfingar clan established two important...
1051
Pagliarulo Giuseppe
g.pagliarulo@...
Oct 2, 1999 5:58 pm
... It is true that Bavarian, Alamannic and, to a lesser degree, Longobardian changed /k/ to /kx/ in certain positions, but it is also true that these ...
1052
Grsartor@...
Oct 2, 1999 8:24 pm
If you want a word for "turtle" you might consider Luke 2:24, where "hraiwadubo" is used for "turtle-dove". Admittedly, if you use the first half of that word...
1053
Sean Crist
kurisuto@...
Oct 2, 1999 10:06 pm
... The first element of that Gothic compound means 'corpse', not 'turtle'. I don't know why it's called a corpse-dove in Gothic, but it is. \/ __ __ _\_...
1054
jdm314@...
Oct 3, 1999 3:22 am
david salo <dsal-@...> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/gothic-l/?start=1048 ... could try There's also padda in swedish and I had...
1055
jdm314@...
Oct 3, 1999 3:31 am
OK, random questions: david salo <dsal-@...> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/gothic-l/?start=877 ... saggweis OK, what's the deal...
1056
Tore Gannholm
tore@...
Oct 3, 1999 4:01 am
The word svear is a rather late invention. As far as I know it only appears in the middle ages when learned men again read latin autors such as Tacitus. Snorri...
1057
Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Oct 3, 1999 7:44 am
It depends on how one interprets Tacitus. He mentions the Suiones, and all comments I know of regard that word to mean the svear. Jordanes mentions two...
1058
Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Oct 3, 1999 7:44 am
Padda means frog, but maybe this is not only on turtles and raccoons. Bertil Haggman...
1059
Pagliarulo Giuseppe
g.pagliarulo@...
Oct 3, 1999 1:03 pm
Some observations I omitted in my last post: If the author of the text we are dealing with had been a upper OHG native speaker and influenced by his spelling...
1060
Mike Adams
abrigon@...
Oct 3, 1999 5:42 pm
Corpse-dove, likely due to its color? Or is habits, especially where found?
Mike
Sean Crist wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 Grsartor@... wrote:
>
> > If you...
1061
jdm314@...
Oct 3, 1999 6:01 pm
I think the ch/c alternation is probably the result of a dim awareness that the Ancients wrote Germanic [k]s as <ch>. What are bagoarii? People in charge of...
1062
David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 3, 1999 6:32 pm
... Both gár and gais are from *ghoisós > *gaizas; In Gothic *gaizs should become gais, and that is the final portion of the name Radagaisus "Spear of ...
1063
jdm314@...
Oct 3, 1999 6:56 pm
Daweid andwaurdida ... should ... "Spear of ... doublet, ... gár, ... What about Latin gćsum? THis is supposedly borrowed from Celtic, but it's clearly...
1064
got@...
Oct 4, 1999 7:50 am
The "gutasaga" mentions a a peacetreaty between "svear" and "gutar", that ackording to Birger Nerman took place around 550 AD. This also matches Beowulf, that...
1065
got@...
Oct 4, 1999 9:03 am
The "gutasaga" mentions a a peacetreaty between "svear" and "gutar", that ackording to Birger Nerman took place around 550 AD. This also matches Beowulf, that...
1066
Pagliarulo Giuseppe
g.pagliarulo@...
Oct 4, 1999 9:15 am
... See Liutprand, De Legat., 12: "...nos, Langobardi scilicet, Saxones, Franci, Lotharingi, Bagoarii, Suevi, Burgundiones..." A last hint about medieval...
1067
David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 4, 1999 12:12 pm
... This name is more usually Bajuvarii, isn't it? So that would be another instance of g = [j]. The joke -- in case anyone is feeling completely baffled --...
1068
Sean Crist
kurisuto@...
Oct 5, 1999 2:06 am
... Nobody mentioned the Hittites; Hittite had long since died out by the time the Turks came on the scene. \/ __ __ _\_ --Sean Crist...
1069
David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 6, 1999 1:48 am
... it's clearly cognate. The PIE form should be *ghaisós, as the Celtic parallels bear out. ... The first element is quite possibly not connected with OE...
1070
jdm314@...
Oct 6, 1999 10:03 pm
Hvar sind allai?...
1071
David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 7, 1999 12:55 am
nd-stem nouns These are masculine agent nouns, derived from the present stem of verbs by the addition of the suffix -nd-. They were originally present...
1072
got@...
Oct 7, 1999 11:43 pm
... Hails! Ik kenna mik himma daga ni fibursiuks! Himma daga is mikil hiala ins meins hus! (Not sure of the grammar, but I think that feversick has this...