I have just been reading Peter Heather's 'The Goths' (Blackwell: Oxford, 1996), a volume in the 'Peoples of Europe' series (ISBN 0-631-16536-3). Heather gives...
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Bertil Häggman
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Mar 4, 1999 3:18 am
... Tim, As usual challengers of the Scandinavian original home get stuck on archaelogy. This is in my opinion onesided. There are other ways of seeking the...
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Bertil Häggman
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Mar 4, 1999 3:25 am
To correctly evaluate the Nordic original home of the Gothic people it is necessary also to take into account other Germanic peoples that originated in...
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Elena Alcamesi
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Mar 4, 1999 4:52 am
... I'm very interested in this topic. Can you tell me the url of the soc.history.medieval list or how I can subscribe to this? Elena Alcamesi ... eGroup home:...
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Elena Alcamesi
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Mar 4, 1999 5:38 am
Is not the linguistic evidence too weak in comparison with the archeological one? I don't know very much about linguistic corrispondences between Gothic and...
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Ben Van Poppel
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Mar 4, 1999 6:00 am
Hails. First, an intro: myname's Ben van Poppel, and I stumbled across Mathaius's Gothic pages after looking for something similar for months, so naturally, I...
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Christian Petersen
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Mar 4, 1999 6:50 am
Dear Colleagues, after having returned from an abroad trip, I realized the progress this list has made. Indeed, it was not easy to get hold of your (former)...
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Tim O'Neill
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Mar 4, 1999 8:32 am
... I agree that Heather's argument, at least, leans too much on the archaeological evidence and totally ignores the linguistic, but I don't know enough about ...
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Bertil Häggman
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Mar 4, 1999 11:34 am
... Both evidences have to be weighed together. But there is much more. One of the reason for instance that the Vandals left northern Germania seems to be...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 4, 1999 11:34 am
... Tim, I have presented the basic linguistic arguments in my earlier contribution (my references to Professor Elias Wessén from _Studia Gotica_ Stockholm...
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Elena Alcamesi
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Mar 4, 1999 12:48 pm
... could be the original home of a people speaking an East Germanic language? There is no evidence that area in northen present day Poland was part of...
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Raymond Uppelschoten
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Mar 4, 1999 2:36 pm
Let me just add that this is the kind of discussion I was looking for when I signed up for gothic-l. Not very linguistic in detail unfortunately, but a very...
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Theodore J. Sherman
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Mar 4, 1999 7:40 pm
Please unsubscribe me from this list. _______________________________________________________________________________ Ted Sherman English Middle Tennessee...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 4, 1999 9:21 pm
... I have presented the main arguments in German by the Swedish linguist, Professor Elias Wessén. As there seems to be limited knowledge of German on the...
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David Salo
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Mar 5, 1999 12:45 am
... The boundaries of the area in which Germanic languages are spoken has fluctuated considerably. It is not so long ago that the mouth of the Vistula was in...
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Christian Petersen
ctp@...
Mar 5, 1999 1:26 am
... Hi Benny, if you haven't got an immediate answer to your query, this may have 2 reasons, one of them being the fact that those verbs are not attested in ...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Mar 5, 1999 1:54 am
I should have noticed that on the _East_ side of the mouth of the Vistula, Claudius Ptolemy identifies a people he calls Gythones -- probably the Goths in yet...
... The Burgiones are probably the Burgundians who at that time had migrated from the island of Bornholm (Burgundarholm). Best wishes Bertil Haggman ... eGroup...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 5, 1999 5:33 am
... Old Gotlandic has a large number of words that are close to East Germanic and of course there is generally a similarity. The close relation between Old...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 5, 1999 9:21 pm
In a continuing presentation of the linguistic evidence of the Gothic original home in Scandinavia I have now reached the question of the meaning of the verb...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Mar 6, 1999 4:14 am
... [...] ... I think this is a rather strong statement to make. Even if the _words_ *Gauts and *Guta derive from the same _root_ (GUT or GIUT) -- and it can ...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 6, 1999 7:09 am
... Maybe you could present the alternative? You are welcome to offer on the list the alternative to the theory of Professor Elias Wessén's (and many other ...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 6, 1999 7:09 am
The Gothic language of the Bible of Wulfila is of course a Germanic language. In many respects it is similar of the original Germanic (Urgermanisch) before the...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 6, 1999 12:14 pm
Starting on the third and final contribution in this series of linguistic evidence of the original home of the Goths in southern Scandinavia I will shortly ...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Mar 6, 1999 11:42 pm
... Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. There are very obviously two tribal names here: one *Gautaz, which certainly refers to a people living in what is now...
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poshka@...
Mar 7, 1999 5:09 am
Hails! That there might be a verb "gut-" (to pour) is valuable when one considers the relationship between hydronyms and ethnonyms. Baltic settlements often...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 7, 1999 6:01 am
... No, as a matter of fact you are not. There are very obviously two ... I think we can agree here that we disagree on this point. ... As the Goths migrated...
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Bertil Häggman
bertil.haggman@...
Mar 7, 1999 6:08 am
... Joseph, Agree with your point. This was also common in Scandinavia and Germany. ... What would the river name be? Any English or German language sources on...
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Elena Alcamesi
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Mar 7, 1999 7:12 am
... If you are talking about grave mounds and stone cirle on cemeteries, it is true that this funerary use was practiced earlier in Scandinavia than on the...
