Thank you so very much, Francisc, Glad you took your time. Your answer was highly elucidating and gave me a prompt answer to my questions, and much of it was...
You are of course right, Andreas! I did a new variant of typo, typical for our times´ "copy-and-paste" way of writing. I was going to quote Jordanes and Adam...
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TURKIYE DERGISI
turktarihi@...
Nov 1, 2001 5:07 pm
Burgaz is, to me, associated with Porgas. It is a Proto-Bulgarian name. One of the early Croatian kings, who are of the same stock as the Proto-Bulgarian...
From Byzans to Luleå... For twopence worth. I was jolted by this name Luleburgaz. We Swedes are, as far as I know, at a complete loss as to the origin and...
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Nenad Mitovski
mitovski@...
Nov 2, 2001 7:54 pm
... That was exactly what triggered and attracted my attention :), but afterwards I figured that "slawan" could also mean something closer to "peaceful",...
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TURKIYE DERGISI
turktarihi@...
Nov 3, 2001 9:08 am
Yaa, that is interesting connection. Thanks. But here, Lule of Burgaz is a Turkish, ultimately Persian word. It is name of a precious stone, as well as Latin...
Hi Osman, You wrote: [snips] ... So, by analogy, Luleburgaz could be named after immigrating citizens from Luleå in north Sweden? :-)) More seriously: What...
Hails! Here is my attempt of Attila's death song in GAV. Corrections and comments are welcome. Albareiks Attilins Saggws Dauthis Auhumists Hunnane, Attila...
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TURKIYE DERGISI
turktarihi@...
Nov 5, 2001 8:08 am
Logical. 'Oil' and Slavic 'ulje' are related words. I think, or I remember, Finnish also has somethink like it. My Finnish dictionary is not with me in office,...
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TURKIYE DERGISI
turktarihi@...
Nov 5, 2001 8:39 am
Hi, Of course, possible. But I personally do not know any migration from that north. After the Poltava battle with Russians, Charles refugeed to the Ottoman...
... have ... Hi Fransics, that is an interesting point. I agree, the Venethi mentioned in first and second century sources are too early to be regarded as...
... River ... canal ... by ... of ... all ... Vandals ... Hello Andreas, Sigmund did not invent the quote, but confused the sources. He was clearly refering to...
... Hi Sig, I read that Luleburgaz took its name from 'lule' meaning pipe (in Turkish?), because there are many pipe-workshops in this city. It was in the past...
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TURKIYE DERGISI
turktarihi@...
Nov 5, 2001 2:02 pm
Exactly, those pipes are made of lüle stone. Sorry for my forgetting. I'll ask for origin of name of that town for this e-group. Osman ... From:...
Hails Iosef! <<The song's great!:) Just a few purely grammatical nitpicks:>> Thank you, I appreciate the corrections. I will make those changes, and then wait...
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andreas.schwarcz@...
Nov 5, 2001 4:39 pm
Dear Sigmund and dear Dirk, as Sigurd wrote himself, he confused Jordanes and Adam of Bremen. Helmold of Bosau cites in his turn again Adam of Bremen, Gesta...
... Dear Andreas, yes, I initially did not see Sigmund's own correction. Your other explanations seem very reasonable to me. Do you think that Helmold's ...
... From: <dirk@...> To: <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:39 PM Subject: [gothic-l] Re: More on the Gothic-Slavic link ... ...
... A correction, I know indeed that Heruls settled in Illyria in 512, and some are said to have returned to Scandinavia - even some returning for a new King...
Hello, Osman This is off-topic, but I think that the statement "rulers of Danubian and Volga Bulgars, Hungarians, Croats, Great (Ukrain) Bulgars and Balkars of...
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TURKIYE DERGISI
turktarihi@...
Nov 6, 2001 9:42 am
Hi, Francisc, Certainly, legends are not sources of history, but bear quasy-historical facts that should be regarded. Early Volga Bulgar sources give the name ...
... Helmold's ... way? ... another ... also ... and some are said to have returned to Scandinavia - even some returning for a new King from Thule (Procopius)....
... other ... same ... Does ... around ... the ... of ... called ... been ... course ... to ... Hi again Oscar, I realised that I did not attempt to answer one...
... me ... me. ... descendants of ... long before ... celtic tribes? ... than ... referred to ... with the ... on ... have ... the ... in ... languages ... ...
Hi Sigmund, it seems that my message was lost in the previous reply, so I post it again. I didn't know about this claim of the Slovenians, but I can not take ...
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andreas.schwarcz@...
Nov 6, 2001 6:51 pm
Dear Dirk, yes, I think the case of the Hevelli is similar. The oldest source mentioning them is the Bavarian Geographer ca.845 AD, who calls them Hehfeldi....
... the ... Hello Andreas, that seems plausible. I am surprised though that the name Heruli was still known after some 600 years afer they ceized to exist. Or...
