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5936 malmqvist52 Offline Send Email Mar 1, 2002
12:46 pm
Hi, According to this exerpt from SAOB there are two words for sun, or related to the sun in gothic, sauil and sunno. Does anyone know what they signify...
5937 malmqvist52 Offline Send Email Mar 1, 2002
12:46 pm
Hi, According to this exerpt from SAOB there are two words for sun, or related to the sun in gothic, sauil and sunno. Does anyone know what they signify...
5938 Le Bateman
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Mar 1, 2002
6:13 pm
They may be in the feminine gender like OE. This is rather confusing because OE nouns for sun and son are spelled almost alike. Sunne and sunu. Le ... From:...
5939 Le Bateman
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Mar 1, 2002
6:20 pm
The OE also had another noun for Sun Solsunne. Why they combined the two I do not know. Le ... From: "malmqvist52" <malmqvist52@...> To:...
5940 malmqvist52 Offline Send Email Mar 1, 2002
6:31 pm
... the two I ... Thanks, this was very interesting info. Perhaps it ment son of the sun then. As if the the sun <*sol> was the sun at noon and the sun's sun...
5941 jazzluver642002 Offline Send Email Mar 3, 2002
7:08 am
I know this is fundamental, but my 12yr old daughter has to write a short essay on the Goths and is having trouble finding information ohter than encyclopedia...
5942 hrafnsnest Offline Send Email Mar 3, 2002
8:14 pm
Hail All! Just thought that I would add this small piece of info. on the Eruli, and their possible earliest mention. While I am not an expert on this subject,...
5943 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 3, 2002
9:35 pm
"The scholarly consensus since the beginning of this century has been that the forms *erlaz, erilaR and Eruli exhibit suffix ablaut, as was already guessed by...
5944 keth@...
xigung Offline Send Email
Mar 4, 2002
2:55 am
You have also skipped the problem of the initial H. In Roman books it is mostly "Herul" with variants, as we discussed in some detail last summer. ... -ulus...
5945 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 4, 2002
7:43 am
Keth, Always welcome your great insights. Taylor, as I mentioned at some length last year is in full support of the Eruli solution. H is inorganic; otherwise...
5946 xigung Offline Send Email Mar 4, 2002
1:34 pm
Sorry, Bertil, it was you who proposed Swedish runic inscriptions with initial H as evidence for Scandinavian Heruls, not me. ... That would be like the...
5947 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 4, 2002
2:50 pm
The whole discussion was initiated by you claiming that Eruli should be spelled Heruli. We are writing about the Greek and the Eruli. Swedish has nothing to do...
5948 Le Bateman
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Mar 6, 2002
5:34 am
There has been much talk lately about the ancestral home of the Goths, being Scania according to Dudo the Germanic speaking people came from the area he...
5949 faltin2001 Offline Send Email Mar 6, 2002
6:18 am
... the ... something ... scholars ... truth ... the ... Scandinavia, ... rather ... Hi Francisc, I had answered to your point above earlier, but I found this...
5950 fericzobor Offline Send Email Mar 6, 2002
8:55 am
Dear Dirk, thank you very much for your detailed answer. Yes, I can read German (I speak this language better than English). I have Wolfram's "Die Germanen",...
5951 Lada
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Mar 6, 2002
9:31 am
... From: xigung <keth@...> To: <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: [gothic-l] Re: Eruli: Etymology and Scandinavia...
5952 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 6, 2002
8:20 pm
Very good. The H is inorganic and not pronounced. Erulically Bertil...
5953 keth@...
xigung Offline Send Email
Mar 6, 2002
10:34 pm
... Very good. The H is inorganic and not pronounced. ... It is of course a logic error to say *the* H is inorganic etc You were informed that the Greek/Latin...
5954 Le Bateman
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Mar 7, 2002
7:07 am
I wanted to amend something It is Gaest Normanorium not Normandium sorry. I think allot of scholars accept the date of 996 for this work. ... From: "Le...
5955 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 7, 2002
9:15 am
That must be a great advantage in your research to have this flasback scenes plauíd out in your mind. So once more the scientific facts: h- is inorganic. ...
5956 keth@...
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Mar 7, 2002
3:34 pm
Bertil, I sort of expected you'd answer like a pomplemousse. By not adressing the presented argument, which was illustrated by a small sample dialogue between...
5957 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 7, 2002
4:28 pm
Continuing my presentation of Taylor's views on the word Eruli. I am leaving out the notes but hope later to provide a short bibliography. Gothically Bertil ...
5958 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 7, 2002
4:29 pm
Keth, Really don't know what to answer here. I think I'll stick with Taylor, if you don't mind. Maybe you should try to present your own terminology if you...
5959 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 8, 2002
9:29 pm
For those on the list who can watch German television there is a program on the Varus battle and the Gothic assault on the Roman empire on Sunday, March 10, ...
5960 Lada
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Mar 9, 2002
8:45 am
... From: Bertil Haggman <mvk575b@...> To: <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: [gothic-l] SV: Eruli, Etymology and...
5961 Lada
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Mar 9, 2002
8:46 am
... From: <keth@...> To: <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Heruls :[gothic-l] : Etymology and Scandinavia. ...
5962 Bertil Haggman
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Mar 9, 2002
12:25 pm
"2) A supposed etymological connection with Olc. jara 'battle' also <*er- by breaking; OHG ernust, OE eornust (eo<e by OE breaking) 'seriousness, battle'; Grk....
5963 keth@...
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Mar 10, 2002
6:04 am
Hi Lada, ... No, I guess you are right. By "voiced" I assume you mean that the vocal chords are used. What I had in mind was also a sound that comes from...
5964 M. Carver
thiudans Offline Send Email
Mar 10, 2002
9:18 am
... Hails Keth. A quick note correcting the above typo: Hafjan = to heave (lift, raise). Cheers, Mat?aius...
5965 M. Carver
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Mar 10, 2002
7:18 pm
Did anyone get a chance to watch Storm over Europe, concerning the Goths? It was just aired here in Nederland on the German channel. I thought some of the...
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