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Re: GPX standard extensions


--- In gpsstash@yahoogroups.com, "Scout" <Scout@G...> wrote:
>
> I offer the following GPX extension as a starting point for a
> standard. It's a work in progress. I've recently changed it to be
> more compatible with geocaching.com.au. I expect it'll be changing

I've had variations of this discussion with many different providers
of geocaching extensions to GPX. I'm behind the formation of _one_
such standard for geocaching extensions to GPX. Well, more
accurately, I suppose I'm behind the formation of a second such
standard and am wildly disinterested in more than two. :-)


Scout, maybe I caught it at a bad moment, but your xsd has validation
problems. Have you fed your sample to SAX2Count or any other
validator lately?

It's interesting that you based it on GPX 1.0 instead of GPX 1.1.
For your needs, the differences are small - mostly in the way URLs are
build. With 1.1 you can associate multiple linky links with a
waypoint and that was the justification for that change. There wree
also some changes to allow better attribute groupings of the global
metadata.

You need to spell out which fields are HTML and which are not. It
looks like sometimes log is and sometimes log isn't but I'm not
spotting a specifier which tells me which it is. This is a
particular problem for <hint> which appears to allow two encodings
that have to be individually parsed: it looks like you have to HTML
parse it FIRST and then rot13 parse it. This is really clumsy for
readers that are able to just hand an HTML encoded chunk of text to a
widget for display.

It's interesting that you've allowd <type> as a list. I could make a
type of <type>regular hitchhiker multi webcam locationless<type> which
would be legal but kind of paradoxical. While I won't point to the
groundspeak example as a model of clarity, subsetting this into some
mutually exclusive types that are easier for readers to parse (the
point of XML is to NOT have to do much additional parsing on
thefields...) would allow stronger typing and simplify the readers.


If we want to do this in a more spam-free environment than this
yahoogroup seems to be, we can move this discussion to the other
mentioned place.








Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:46 pm

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I offer the following GPX extension as a starting point for a standard. It's a work in progress. I've recently changed it to be more compatible with...
Scout
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Jan 12, 2005
3:10 pm

... I've had variations of this discussion with many different providers of geocaching extensions to GPX. I'm behind the formation of _one_ such standard for...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
3:47 pm

... That's fine with me. GPSgames.org is a producer of GPX, not a consumer. If the consumers (e.g., GpsBabel) publish an open standard that their tools will...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
4:19 pm

... I intend to play the "not my problem" card on this one. I'll help review things and I'll even implement the code for ONE such extension, but I'm really...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
4:42 pm

... Correct. On further study, I just discovered that GPSgames.org is mangling the hints because of the very problem you pointed out (both rot13 and HTML...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
5:21 pm

... You're not the first to fall for this trick. :-) Also, if you're going to spell it out in HTML, shall we specify WHICH HTML or XHTML strain? Is it meant...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
5:56 pm

... The author might have chosen rot13 to add a bit of difficulty for the users with no self control. On the other hand, the author may have no objections to...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
6:20 pm

... I think that's a good move. ... Wooo hooo! I feel some 'spl01ts coming on now! :-) ... I don't know of prior art on this. It seems insufficiently ...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
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... I'm getting individual emails from the list. The list passes spam on without any barrier. Some of it gets trapped by my mail server or mail reader. A few...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
7:01 pm

actually newer webforums offer an option to get notified (via email) when there are updates to specific threads or forums, so you can have a tickler reminder...
Mike Frazier
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Jan 13, 2005
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I'm pleased to announce that the maps on Buxley's Waypoint now display the current month's crop of geodashing points. You can visit Buxley's Waypoint on the...
Ed Hall
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Jan 13, 2005
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... Thanks for that, Ed. It's a welcome addition to your already great geocaching maps. -- Scout http://GPSgames.org...
Scout
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Jan 14, 2005
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... Agree 100%. Well done. Andrew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Andrew Priest
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