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Re: GPX standard extensions


"Robert Lipe" wrote:
> I'm behind the formation of _one_ such standard for geocaching
> extensions to GPX.

That's fine with me. GPSgames.org is a producer of GPX, not a
consumer. If the consumers (e.g., GpsBabel) publish an open standard
that their tools will accept, I'll bend over backwards to try to
produce that format. I offered the GPX that GPSgames.org currently
produces in hopes of speeding the process up.

> Scout, maybe I caught it at a bad moment, but your xsd has
> validation problems. Have you fed your sample to SAX2Count
> or any other validator lately?

I apologize. I've been tweaking the xsd and sample in the last few
days. I believe the version currently posted passes SAX2Count

schema: http://geocaching.gpsgames.org/GPX/gpsgames.xsd
example: http://geocaching.gpsgames.org/GPX/gpsgames.gpx

> It's interesting that you based it on GPX 1.0 instead of GPX 1.1.

That was just an oversight. I'm not familiar with the differences.

> You need to spell out which fields are HTML and which are not.
> It looks like sometimes log is and sometimes log isn't but I'm
> not spotting a specifier which tells me which it is.

The logs in the GPSgames.org GPX files should always be treated as
HTML. They don't always have HTML markup in them, but they are all
treated as HTML when displayed on the site. I'll look into how to
specify this in the xsd.

> This is a particular problem for <hint> which appears to allow
> two encodings that have to be individually parsed: it looks like
> you have to HTML parse it FIRST and then rot13 parse it.

That is correct. I guess the point was not to have the plaintext hint
in the GPX. Hand the HTML-encoded hint to your widget and display the
encrypted hint, the same way the Web site does.

> It's interesting that you've allowd <type> as a list.
> I could make a type of <type>regular hitchhiker multi webcam
> locationless<type> which would be legal but kind of paradoxical.

Well... I'm not sure you can create mutually exclusive subsets. For
example, I can place a multi-stage cache, with the first stage being
a regular cache, the second stage a micro, and the last being a
Webcam or a virtual. The reason I lumped them all in together is
because I didn't want to restrict the creativity of geocachers. If
they can think of a way to combine a hitchhiker with a locationless
cache, I think that would be a clever addition to the hobby.

That was the thinking anyway. If the majority of sites/programs
really think it makes sense to create mutually exclusive types, I can
find a best fit for whatever boxes some user of GPSgames.org might
check off on that site.

> If we want to do this in a more spam-free environment than this
> yahoogroup seems to be, we can move this discussion to the other
> mentioned place.

I'll go where the traffic is. The Yahoo ads at the bottom of the
emails never bothered me, personally. And the spams that come to this
list could be controlled if the list owner was active and cared to.

--
Scout






Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:18 pm

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I offer the following GPX extension as a starting point for a standard. It's a work in progress. I've recently changed it to be more compatible with...
Scout
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Jan 12, 2005
3:10 pm

... I've had variations of this discussion with many different providers of geocaching extensions to GPX. I'm behind the formation of _one_ such standard for...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
3:47 pm

... That's fine with me. GPSgames.org is a producer of GPX, not a consumer. If the consumers (e.g., GpsBabel) publish an open standard that their tools will...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
4:19 pm

... I intend to play the "not my problem" card on this one. I'll help review things and I'll even implement the code for ONE such extension, but I'm really...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
4:42 pm

... Correct. On further study, I just discovered that GPSgames.org is mangling the hints because of the very problem you pointed out (both rot13 and HTML...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
5:21 pm

... You're not the first to fall for this trick. :-) Also, if you're going to spell it out in HTML, shall we specify WHICH HTML or XHTML strain? Is it meant...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
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... The author might have chosen rot13 to add a bit of difficulty for the users with no self control. On the other hand, the author may have no objections to...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
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... I think that's a good move. ... Wooo hooo! I feel some 'spl01ts coming on now! :-) ... I don't know of prior art on this. It seems insufficiently ...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
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... I'm getting individual emails from the list. The list passes spam on without any barrier. Some of it gets trapped by my mail server or mail reader. A few...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
7:01 pm

actually newer webforums offer an option to get notified (via email) when there are updates to specific threads or forums, so you can have a tickler reminder...
Mike Frazier
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Jan 13, 2005
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I'm pleased to announce that the maps on Buxley's Waypoint now display the current month's crop of geodashing points. You can visit Buxley's Waypoint on the...
Ed Hall
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Jan 13, 2005
11:04 pm

... Thanks for that, Ed. It's a welcome addition to your already great geocaching maps. -- Scout http://GPSgames.org...
Scout
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Jan 14, 2005
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... Agree 100%. Well done. Andrew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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