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Re: GPX standard extensions

RobertLipe wrote:
> Therefore consumers of this data are not expected to preserve
> vertical whitespace in the logs and since <br> and <p> tags are
> rare, most of the things that look to the human observer as
> paragraph markers are expected to be collapsed into a single
> block, right?

Correct. On further study, I just discovered that GPSgames.org is
mangling the hints because of the very problem you pointed out (both
rot13 and HTML encodings layered on top of each other.) What I said
earlier about intent is still valid, but the GPSgames.org
implementation in the sample GPX files is wrong. (One good discovery
has come from this discussion already :-)

> Display choices should be made at the client end, not in the data
> encoding. If the program want to display it obscured in some way,
> that should be its choice.

In this case, I consider the choice was made by the geocache hider. He
wants his comments to be rot13 encrypted. I think the data should be
true to the author's desire. If some program wants to decrypt the
comments, they are free to do this. On the other hand, I see how this
interpretation requires everyone using the standard to agree on this
treatment for this field and what the encryption algorithm is. So, if
everyone else thinks the hint should be passed through GPX unencrypted,
I can live with that.

> see if you agree that some degree of
> categorization would be helpful.

I foresee endless debates about what that categorization should be. And
when a decision is chiseled in stone, I foresee some creative
individual creating a cache that breaks the categorization. So, I
punted and lumped them all in together. But if categories emerge from
this effort, I'm sure I'll accept them.

> Looking at the archives, it seems those conditions are false.

The list owner occasionally shows signs that he's still around, but the
spam issue has come up before and the list owner hasn't posted any
responses to suggestions for how to control it. It can be controlled
fairly easily on Yahoo lists that receive as little traffic as this one.

--
Scout



Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:18 pm

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I offer the following GPX extension as a starting point for a standard. It's a work in progress. I've recently changed it to be more compatible with...
Scout
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Jan 12, 2005
3:10 pm

... I've had variations of this discussion with many different providers of geocaching extensions to GPX. I'm behind the formation of _one_ such standard for...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
3:47 pm

... That's fine with me. GPSgames.org is a producer of GPX, not a consumer. If the consumers (e.g., GpsBabel) publish an open standard that their tools will...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
4:19 pm

... I intend to play the "not my problem" card on this one. I'll help review things and I'll even implement the code for ONE such extension, but I'm really...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
4:42 pm

... Correct. On further study, I just discovered that GPSgames.org is mangling the hints because of the very problem you pointed out (both rot13 and HTML...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
5:21 pm

... You're not the first to fall for this trick. :-) Also, if you're going to spell it out in HTML, shall we specify WHICH HTML or XHTML strain? Is it meant...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
5:56 pm

... The author might have chosen rot13 to add a bit of difficulty for the users with no self control. On the other hand, the author may have no objections to...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
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... I think that's a good move. ... Wooo hooo! I feel some 'spl01ts coming on now! :-) ... I don't know of prior art on this. It seems insufficiently ...
Robert Lipe
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Jan 13, 2005
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... I'm getting individual emails from the list. The list passes spam on without any barrier. Some of it gets trapped by my mail server or mail reader. A few...
Scout
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Jan 13, 2005
7:01 pm

actually newer webforums offer an option to get notified (via email) when there are updates to specific threads or forums, so you can have a tickler reminder...
Mike Frazier
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Jan 13, 2005
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I'm pleased to announce that the maps on Buxley's Waypoint now display the current month's crop of geodashing points. You can visit Buxley's Waypoint on the...
Ed Hall
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Jan 13, 2005
11:04 pm

... Thanks for that, Ed. It's a welcome addition to your already great geocaching maps. -- Scout http://GPSgames.org...
Scout
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Jan 14, 2005
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... Agree 100%. Well done. Andrew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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