hi. just wanted to let everyone know about a growing geocaching community in the virtual world called Second Life (secondlife.com) Most of us are geocachers...
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sept1c_tank
nilesdicknil...
Jun 23, 2007 6:22 pm
As adamant at Jeremy has been in the past about the commercialization of geocaching, I cannot believe that he is now stooping to Google ads on his website. I...
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Seth! Leary
sethleary
Jun 23, 2007 6:41 pm
Hmm. It had been awhile since I'd hit the site. I see what you mean. It's really a wonder that those haven't appeared before now. There are people out there...
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Andrew Senger
yaw4god_emt
Jun 23, 2007 7:02 pm
I haven't seen any ads recently, and unless they were added since last night, it's only for non-paying members. In Jeremy's defense, the cost of running a...
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DenJen92@...
kr8u
Jun 23, 2007 9:47 pm
I did not notice the adds. Of course after reading the link that Seth! put up I can see why. I am a PM and I run firefox with noscript. If it will stop the...
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Ronald Gerth
ronaldgerth
Jun 23, 2007 10:47 pm
I agree, a couple of little ads that get sent to people who are using the site for free seems like a small price to pay. I get pop ups and adds from all of...
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David Rinke II
rinkeref
Jun 24, 2007 4:27 am
Not sure if I'm missing something - but the only place I found Google ads were on the "Getting Started" page, under the small set of Geocaching ads that are...
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c nielsen
cnielsen
Jun 24, 2007 4:29 am
I have to agree with this. I didnt notice it until I was logging my sons caches last night (free account). If these ads help out where people dont want to pay,...
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c nielsen
cnielsen
Jun 24, 2007 4:57 am
If you Pay, you dont see the ADs. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Art Pennington
arthurat
Jun 24, 2007 5:09 pm
We need to remember,the purpose of business in America is to generate a profit for the owners. I wonder what the response would be if suddenly the site shut...
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Scout
gc_scout
Jun 24, 2007 5:26 pm
... Don't confuse the goals of Groundspeak, Inc., with the needs of the geocaching hobby itself. Open source and distributed processing would be ways to...
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sept1c_tank
nilesdicknil...
Jun 24, 2007 5:55 pm
Thanks Scout, for wording it so elegantly. I know as well as the next guy that the efforts of gc.com are not cheap. And I understand that Jeremy has every...
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salvaje1@...
salvaje1a
Jun 24, 2007 6:46 pm
Geez you guys need to get out more. Apparently you all watch public TV only? Just have commercials when you feel its time to beg and then hit up gov't cause...
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Ronald Gerth
ronaldgerth
Jun 24, 2007 7:26 pm
From what I can see you can go for a long time without ever seeing another ugly google ad on gc.com and all you have to do is break out the wallet and pay the...
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Andrew Senger
yaw4god_emt
Jun 24, 2007 7:46 pm
The ads are very minor in relation to most of the websites out there. In fact, many of them advertise even when you ARE a paid member. Remember that the...
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c nielsen
cnielsen
Jun 25, 2007 12:27 am
Anyone who has run a real subscription business knows that overtime, subscriptions dont tend to keep people long term. For those looking at a subscription...
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sept1c_tank
nilesdicknil...
Jun 25, 2007 4:28 am
Click here <http://img.geocaching.com/cache/5a9b9b3c-f6de-4382-b9a9-fb9b6624b14f.jp\ g> to see the placement of the ads (front and center and near the top) on...
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Neil R. Ormos
ormos99
Jun 25, 2007 3:34 pm
... So the Groundspeak site shuts down tomorrow in a big puff of green smoke. Poof! Big deal! Someone else would build a site for listing caches, and users...
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Neil R. Ormos
ormos99
Jun 25, 2007 3:45 pm
... Early days? Has the dream died already? :-) Some of us still want an open, distributed database for cache data. Not just for reliability, security, and...
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David Rinke II
rinkeref
Jun 25, 2007 3:56 pm
I really have to disagree with the idea that geocaching.com shutting down would be a good thing. In this country, it seems like everything has to have 2-3...
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Ronald Gerth
ronaldgerth
Jun 25, 2007 10:33 pm
I get the fact that geocaching is a hobby that is early on in it's developement and all and that GC.com has a very good database and is what is currently being...
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Joe
furbyboy_98
Jun 25, 2007 11:11 pm
Except for the database isn't really HIS proprietary information. It's actually the information of the community...Unfortunately the community forgets this. ...
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Scout
gc_scout
Jun 26, 2007 12:01 am
... Not only did he take the time and effort to create his Web site, but he had lawyers to threaten lawsuits against others with a different vision for the...
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c nielsen
cnielsen
Jun 26, 2007 12:28 am
When I first started Geocaching, I looked around for othersites which had 'geocaches39;. Not one of the sites offered the amount of caches that geocaching.com...
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Scout
gc_scout
Jun 26, 2007 1:12 am
... gc.com is far and away the biggest listing site. It claims to have over 400,000 listings. http://opencaching.de has 15000, mostly in Europe. ...
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Seth! Leary
sethleary
Jun 26, 2007 1:15 am
All: I find the comparisons that are getting tossed about quite interesting. Running a web site like geocaching.com is not at all analogous to creating ...
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David Rinke II
rinkeref
Jun 26, 2007 1:34 am
In reference to the question on the lawsuit - from Wikipedia - article "Geocaching": In the United States, where most geocaching services are hosted,...
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Scout
gc_scout
Jun 26, 2007 1:48 am
... Agreed. But there could be open source P2P software that would allow distributing the data so that the Web site itself is less important than the P2P...
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Scout
gc_scout
Jun 26, 2007 1:54 am
... P.S. You wouldn't necessarily have to eliminate the profit motive, either. Establish standards for the cache records (e.g., GPX) and anyone with a...
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Andrew Priest
aushiker
Jun 26, 2007 1:58 am
G'day This is the sort of model taken by Geocaching Australia. Seems to be working effectively building a good community of cachers. Regards Andrew...