More flying cars for your Christmas wish lists;

http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/top-ten-flying-cars/

Enjoy,

Mystery

                           SILICON

New Silicon anodes may enhance Battery Life! This looks like it might be an important step in the right direction for many electric vehicle applications. Also important step for robotics and automatons, perhaps. Here is a link to the latest on this new battery development;

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080115-new-silicon-anodes-could-result-in-battery-breakthrough.html

Mystery

#1

                               * GRAVITY NEWS *

          This will be a new feature here on News Articles concerning Gravity, related research, and technologies related to Gravitational Propulsion. It will have an emphasis on scientific research concerning Gravity,  however in the interest of revealing possible new related technologies some liberties will be allowed in posting related technologies, theories, and science. Anyone with news worthy items can reply with same to the most recent "Gravity News" post.

Extra Dimensions and Gravity;

http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=24&theme=&usrsess=1&id=191789

Super Computer to try and detect Gravity Waves;

http://media.www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2008/02/19/News/Catching.Waves.New.Su.Super.Computer.Allows.For.Black.Hole.Gravity.Research-3217822.shtml

Holy Grail of Physics; Gravity;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7215972.stm

Gravity Waves & Hyperspace;

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/19021.asp

ESA to begin hightened study of Microgravity on the ISS with new Columbus module.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7230333.stm

Galactic Gravity;

http://science-community.sciam.com/blog-entry/Sciam-Observations/Galaxy-Quest/300006344

Unification of Gravity and Dark Forces;

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2008-02-11-dark-energy-matter_N.htm

ESO's VLT observations on Dark Energy

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-01/e-nlo012808.php

      While anyone can reply with news or comments to our new "Gravity News" feature I am looking for a member that might enjoy taking over as our main Gravity News reporter to seek out new gravity news articles and begin posting groups of relevant news links monthly. It is intended that the "Gravity News" format will help our members and visitors keep up with new technological and scientific events concerning gravity and related topics.

Mystery

#2

                    :  GRAVITY NEWS :

    Here are some recent gravity news articles and related data;

Physics of the Impossible,Michio Kaku;

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120534908289431017.html

Testing Relativity and Gravity;

http://media.www.accentadvocate.com/media/storage/paper794/news/2008/03/12/CampusBeat/Lecturer.Examines.Theory.Of.Gravity-3260952.shtml

Seeing the Unseen, by Gravity;

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0306/p14s01-stss.html

Jet Pack defies Gravity??? ;

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=288306

MicroGravity Experiments;

http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/02/stories/2008030260021000.htm

Time Change, Gravity Change;

http://media.www.dailyutahchronicle.com/media/storage/paper244/news/2008/03/10/News/Physicist.Says.Time.Gravity.Could.Be.Changing-3260953.shtml

The Big Twang Theory;

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/09/the_big_twang_theory/

Gravity Tides;

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080310/NEWS01/803100311/1002

Philosophy of Physics;

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-opgui095606301mar09,0,5944171.story

What is Gravity?;

http://www.angelfire.com/geek/alphabeta/

Gravitational Propulsion to be used as last ditch effort against Asteroids, check out group 2 on this page;

http://www.uwmc.uwc.edu/is/Asteroid_Collision_Options.htm

Gravitational Propulsion Definition;

http://www.allwords.com/word-gravitational+propulsion.html

Enjoy all,

Mystery

#3

                                       Gravity News

           Here are some of the last months latest news stories related to Gravity, enjoy.

Gravity Ripples upgraded;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7348653.stm

Gravitational Radiation;

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080415143816.htm

SETI looking for gravity waves;

http://io9.com/380194/future-seti-looking-for-alien-lasers-gravity-waves

Boeing making patents on Gravity??? ;

http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/index.php?itemid=3203

Jupiter's Gravity could pull Mercury into the Earth;

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/18103199.html

Gravity Satellite prepares for launch;

http://www.theengineer.co.uk/Articles/305537/Gravity+satellite+prepares+for+launch.htm

Gravity Waves;

http://arstechnica.com/journals/science.ars/2008/04/09/putting-the-squeeze-on-gravity-waves

Secrets of Black Holes revealed;

http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2008/bllac/

Pioneer Anomaly in review;

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-reconstruct-the-pioneer-spacecraft-anomaly

Mystery  

     This just out from Yahoo! News; a whole section devoted to flying cars and plenty of  videos too. Enjoy, and keep thinking of a better way.

http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/173/flying_cars

Mystery

#4

                         GRAVITY NEWS

       Links to Gravity news and related science from around the world;

Gravitational Anomaly may have to do with "Heat Radiation";

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB121087447348895873-blL1JdoWUovYcLr68FBS8gDdNCQ_20080614.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top

New review of Scramjets and Spaceplanes;

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1129/1

Superconducting Electromagnets may help Space Craft Move in Relation to Each Other;

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn13846-magnets-help-spacecraft-stick-together.html

MIT's Gravitational Wave detector has interesting results, perhaps;

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/ligo-crab-0603.html

ESA's Gravity Mission set for Launch in September;

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080527112014.htm

Nasa creates Computer Simulations of Gravity Waves;

http://physics.about.com/b/2006/07/24/nasa-simulates-gravity-waves.htm

Magnetars and Gravitational Waves;

http://physics.about.com/b/2008/05/31/magnetars-and-gravity-waves.htm

Gravity B may lose Funding;

http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2008/05/nasa_to_pull_plug_on_gravity_p.html

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn13938-gravity-probe-b-scores-f-in-nasa-review.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news1_head_dn13938

Superconductor not effected by Magnetism;

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0805/0805.1282.pdf

Zero Gravity creates Giant Veggies;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/HealthSci/Growing_giant_veggies_in_zero_gravity/articleshow/3038224.cms

Enjoy,

Mystery

  Hello Norman,

         Alas while Chicken Little would not be able to fly if the sky had fallen, he/she can rest assured that for the very immediate future Gravity B's failure will not alter anything.In fact as Nature magazine has hinted lately;" Gravity B , so what?".

       GravityB or Gravity Probe B was an experimental research probe that  set out to challenge Einstein's Gravitational theories. Decades of research went into preparation of the experiment to decide if Time/Space frame dragging was really happening. Einstein's theories had one tiny "fudge" factor that has always worried scientists and so they put together this project that actually employed two space probes containing Gyroscopes that were said to be the most perfect gyroscopes ever built by humanity. Small spheres actually, that spun at high speeds and hoped to measure the effects of space/time and gravity as they were monitored in their respective orbits above the Earth.

    Unfortunately all the University's scientists and all of Nasa's Men couldn't get the data to fit expectations without far more massive fudge factors than Einstein had ever used, when he only employed his brain.My my. Not amazing that the funding was cut despite the best political spin placed on the Gyro data by the scientists. A rather big let down all around.

     Such a heavy issue this Gravity thing, seems to have a mass of it's own.And such warped thinking, I am reminded of a clock trying to go faster than the speed of light and saying over and over; "so little  time, so little time".So perhaps this is good news after all, as no more money will be spent on something that is flawed from concept, and Gravity gets to stay just the way it has been in the past. No need to fear of adjusting our scales to Gravity Savings plan C as well, whew.

    On the serious side here is a link to the University's spin on the whole issue;

http://einstein.stanford.edu/index.html

    To them, there is indeed a certain amount of Gravity to this Matter. (They will lose money)

   Thanks for your take on this heavy matter, it needed a lighter approach thinks I.

Mystery

PS;

There are more links about this subject in our links section at the group's main page, just click on the links section on the left hand there.

____________________________________________________
--- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, "Norman Swartz" <vecr@...> wrote:

 Dear Jim: I got your email today with the latest "gravity news". Not having a lot of time to read about all of the latest news about gravity, I just scanned quickly down the page, with all 18 or so links. Of course the news that "Gravity B" may lose funding caught my attention immediately. This sounds really urgent, although I'm not sure what gravity B actually is. Why, I've not even heard of Gravity A! (How many kinds of gravity are there?) Without taking the time to open the link and read the grave news, I was thinking that "gravity A" must be the natural (free) kind, and that "gravity B" must be the government sponsored kind.  That's why there's a crisis, if it is about to lose funding, and the Congress might have to pass a special appropriation to make sure that funding continues. (What happens if gravity B runs out of funding? Will we all fly off the earth?) Perhaps there is a special private fund to save gravity. When the news of the gravity crisis hits the conventional news media, then I will most definitely read about it. But in the meantime, thanks for the advance warning. Where can I send my contribution to help save gravity? Maybe I had better start an internet fund to collect emergency donations... and in the meantime, you can tell me where to send the money when I get it. I'll be sure and forward anything that is left after "expenses." I guess I can no longer rest content in the last headline that I saw on the subject: "30,000 years and still no good news!" But thanx for the warning.

Norman

P.S.(Does Chicken Little have anthing to do with this?)

       Is science challenging gravity and reality itself??? Just for fun check this out and see what take you have ;

http://www.thetechlounge.com/news/12857/Physicists+Break+Laws+Flaunt+AntiGravity/

Mystery 

--- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, "Michael D. Grissom" <inventorgrissom@...> wrote:

 This is old news guys. This Chicken Little conspiracy has been around for a long time. I first heard it from my mom about 55 years ago. Even then I was smart enough to know that if gravity effected air then the air wouldn't be up in the sky! DUH!

   Here's a link to an article on a recent report on how to repel instead of attract;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1559579/Physicists-have-%27solved%27-mystery-of-levitation.html

Mystery 

#5

                         GRAVITY NEWS

       Links to Gravity news and related science from around the world;

Spacecraft could use gravity to nudge Earth-threatening asteroid;
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200831/1593/Spacecraft-could-use-gravity-to-nudge-Earth-threatening-asteroid

Einstein's Legacy: Inside the Quest for Gravity Waves;
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/07/gallery_ligo

Ionised air to power flying saucers;
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/07/01/2290727.htm?site=science&topic=latest

Spray cooling in zero-gravity;
http://www.hindu.com/seta/2008/07/10/stories/2008071050051700.htm

"New" Black Hole War Book;
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121720140527588397.html

Rocket Helicopter;
http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/RH-i.htm

Flight of the Jetpack;
http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-%2526-space/article/2008-07/flight-jetpack

Wikipedia's new "improved" Antigravity entry;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gravity

Last but certainly not least is the "Orb Swarm", these are true Gravitationally Propelled Spheres not unlike some of my earliest designs,(See File and Photo section, Members only) that create a "Swarm" when commanded by the "Mother Orb". Scientific and artistic, a very interesting creation, well worth review, links;
http://wiki.orbswarm.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://orbswarm.com/

Oh, check the zip, U no Where.

Mystery 

        .                   EXTRA            .

         $10,000,000,000.00 Sale Price  On Gravitational Propulsion

     A man has offered a Gravity related Propulsion system on Ebay for 10 Billion Dollars.

I have no idea whether he has a prototype or not.

News Link;

http://www.berwickleader.com.au/article/2008/08/06/40634_blv_news.html

I'd like to add that I offered a working system to a certain Govt Agency back in the late 1980's, and I did have a working prototype at the time, but they didn't seem too interested. They didn't even want to see the prototype, but perhaps times have changed. I know my price has gone up! Certainly not some minor amount like 10 billion. lol, enjoy the story.

Mystery 

IF anyone ever truely accomplished working anti-gravity or perpetual
motion, why wouldn't they create an inexpensive audio/video demo to
prove it to a point that would entice investors, engineers, and
scientist to come for a live demo and test it? These videos can
usually be done without disclosing HOW it works (patentable details).

All of the videos I have seen thus far (and I've seen most) always
fail to show under the table, or use transparent plastic or glass
supports and table top to reveal there are no hidden wires or power
sources or lighter than air gasses within, or conveniently NOT show a
full 360 degree walk-around the prototype hinting that they are hiding
something. Only an idiot would take these would-be inventors seriously
if these inventors?.. can't even produce a simple relieving audio
video (without showing patentable details) to prove there are no
tricks involved.

I have over 20 years experience graphically illustrating in 3D and
making videos of inventions without disclosing or making obvious any
patentable details.

MY CHALLENGE:

I OFFER FOR FREE -- to sign a non-disclosure and make a completely
convincing demo video of any anti-gravity or perpetual motion device
for attracting investors AFTER my own on-phone and then on-site
thorough testing (debunking) is complete.

NOTE: If you ARE using a "trick" I WILL find it and disclose that
trick to all relative sites on the internet along with your photo and
contact details. There's not many things I hate more than the people
who perpetrate scams! If you're not a scam you have nothing to fear
and I'm not only ready to roll but just as excited as you are.

I believe both of these inventions are possible -- I just haven't seen
one yet. Show me!

Please feel free to copy/paste my "challenge" above to all relative
websites or in any relative video comment sections.

Oh.. and you don't have to worry about me stealing your invention. In
my 45 years of inventing I have documented 1,009 inventions in my
book. I don't put them in my book unless I'm positive they would
succeed. I'm fully funded and have seven patents in process at this
writing. At age 62 I can't possibly process and market more than 100
or so. So, I teamed up with the founder of CreativityPool DOT com
(Steve) and he created wikinventions DOT com where I intend to dump
(royalty free) as many of my inventions as possible before I die. It's
a place to submit inventions to be 'open sourced' for development --
NON PROFIT. After all, what could I possibly gain by taking them all
to the grave with me? You can't make any money on this open-source
site but you CAN at least get full credit for having invented the new
product or device.

I'd much rather give someone 100 of my inventions than even consider
taking on one of theirs... nuff said.

--- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Dennis Grissom" <inventorgrissom@...> wrote:
>
>
> IF anyone ever truely accomplished working anti-gravity or perpetual
> motion, why wouldn't they create an inexpensive audio/video demo to
> prove it to a point that would entice investors, engineers, and
> scientist to come for a live demo and test it? These videos can
> usually be done without disclosing HOW it works (patentable details).
>
> All of the videos I have seen thus far (and I've seen most) always
> fail to show under the table, or use transparent plastic or glass
> supports and table top to reveal there are no hidden wires or power
> sources or lighter than air gasses within, or conveniently NOT show a
> full 360 degree walk-around the prototype hinting that they are hiding
> something. Only an idiot would take these would-be inventors seriously
> if these inventors?.. can't even produce a simple relieving audio
> video (without showing patentable details) to prove there are no
> tricks involved.
>
> I have over 20 years experience graphically illustrating in 3D and
> making videos of inventions without disclosing or making obvious any
> patentable details.
>
> MY CHALLENGE:
>
> I OFFER FOR FREE -- to sign a non-disclosure and make a completely
> convincing demo video of any anti-gravity or perpetual motion device
> for attracting investors AFTER my own on-phone and then on-site
> thorough testing (debunking) is complete.
>
> NOTE: If you ARE using a "trick" I WILL find it and disclose that
> trick to all relative sites on the internet along with your photo and
> contact details. There's not many things I hate more than the people
> who perpetrate scams! If you're not a scam you have nothing to fear
> and I'm not only ready to roll but just as excited as you are.
>
> I believe both of these inventions are possible -- I just haven't seen
> one yet. Show me!
>
> Please feel free to copy/paste my "challenge" above to all relative
> websites or in any relative video comment sections.
>
> Oh.. and you don't have to worry about me stealing your invention. In
> my 45 years of inventing I have documented 1,009 inventions in my
> book. I don't put them in my book unless I'm positive they would
> succeed. I'm fully funded and have seven patents in process at this
> writing. At age 62 I can't possibly process and market more than 100
> or so. So, I teamed up with the founder of CreativityPool DOT com
> (Steve) and he created wikinventions DOT com where I intend to dump
> (royalty free) as many of my inventions as possible before I die. It's
> a place to submit inventions to be 'open sourced' for development --
> NON PROFIT. After all, what could I possibly gain by taking them all
> to the grave with me? You can't make any money on this open-source
> site but you CAN at least get full credit for having invented the new
> product or device.
>
> I'd much rather give someone 100 of my inventions than even consider
> taking on one of theirs... nuff said.
>
For the record.. of my current 1,009 inventions, not one has anything
to do with anti-gravity or perpetual motion so there's no need to
worry about conflict of interests.

--- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, Michael
Grissom <inventorgrissom@...> wrote:
>
>
>  1977 is the date I designed the FireFly. I have 1005 inventions
since my first in 1954 at age 8 and thus there are a few hundred ahead
of in on my priority list. My plan for the FireFly is to dedicate it
and an open source website to it and see if world wide talent can
perfect it to a point where someone builds it. Meanwhile, 'back at the
ranch', I'm really busy patenting and prototyping much smaller, less
expensive inventions.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: George <hubrotherfour@...>
> To: gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 1:04:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Gravitational Propulsion,  SN; Flying Cars... really ???
> Update: Steve, a friend of mine teamed with me and he created
wikinventions DOT com for NON PROFIT open source new product
development. This is where I will submit the FireFly for development
by round-the-world talent. I'll update here when the FireFly has been
successfully submitted to that new site. I am finalizing the rotating
3D surface model now. Steve is working on a way to display a rotating
functional 3D model on the FireFly's front page if possible.

Remember; the FireFly is completely self-contained (no removable
parts). This is made possible by wing geometry that telescopes out
perpendicularly to the wings cord.
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>             I see a 1977 on the design for the firefly.Is that a
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> long.Shame we do not have a more rapid development and manufacturing
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Hello Michael,

This sounds like an intriguing offer to the group and others. I have often wondered how a real operating Gravity defying invention could be safely disclosed without losing the rights. Actually "Gravitationally Interactive Propulsion Device" would perhaps be closer to a technical description.Of great concern to me is the potential of fraud using magnets to cause an object to hover employing opposing magnetic fields. Rare Earth Magnets have become so powerful and there are a number of tricks now being employed (W videos) to amaze the gullible.This is a major issue perhaps as some inventors do claim to employ magnetic fields to interact with gravity, and so how to distinguish between the fraud and the honest may be an issue.I personally do not use magnetic fields per se in my gravity research, but do employ electricty which would have a minor magnetic signature.

In the past I have considered perhaps in the prescence of witnesses to place the Gravity Propulsion Device (with covered operational parts) within a plastic bag, as gravity can easily penetrate such coverings. By covering the object with a bag it will remove possibility of airflow causing lift. And then taking the object to an outdoor area of the observers choice so that there can be no chance of there being an underground electromagnet that could be remotely switched on by the person demonstrating their invention. Of course different concepts may need fine tuning of the situation, that must be considered. Devices able to detect magnetic fields would need to be present as well as video camera to provide secure unedited imagery.The object would need to be lifted by the witnesses to assure that some switch is not made from a heavier than air device to a lighter than air device as well.Of course no matter how careful the tests everything would still be questioned afterwards, no doubt.

I noted in your post these words; "You can't make any money on this open-source site but you CAN at least get full credit for having invented the new product or device." I would like some clarification on that statement for although I think I understand the intent it could be misunderstood by some of our members. What I am speaking of is that this in no way implys that the inventor could lose the rights to making money with their invention by disclosing their idea on the site. However I do understand that disclosure in the public can cause some clocks to begin ticking at the commerce dept's patent site, but I am not up to date on that. Perhaps you could explain that if you have any info.

I should note that another member of another group I run created "an acid test" for such a device as what we are talking about, he allowed for even minor results such as deflection from a direct hanging device to some degrees away from gravity source below. While that might allow for even greater fraud, it would be a good indicator for progress as a test for the inventor to employ while doing research and so can be reviewed by any of our members  at this link;

http://antigravity.pbwiki.com/The%20Acid%20Test%20for%20a%20suitable%20drive

Mystery

____________________________________________________________________
--- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Dennis Grissom" <inventorgrissom@...> wrote:

 --- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
 Dennis Grissom" inventorgrissom@ wrote:

 
IF anyone ever truely accomplished working anti-gravity or perpetual
 motion, why wouldn't they create an inexpensive audio/video demo to
prove it to a point that would entice investors, engineers, and
scientist to come for a live demo and test it? These videos can
 usually be done without disclosing HOW it works (patentable details).
 
All of the videos I have seen thus far (and I've seen most) always
fail to show under the table, or use transparent plastic or glass
 supports and table top to reveal there are no hidden wires or power
sources or lighter than air gasses within, or conveniently NOT show a
 full 360 degree walk-around the prototype hinting that they are hiding
something. Only an idiot would take these would-be inventors seriously
if these inventors?.. can't even produce a simple relieving audio
 video (without showing patentable details) to prove there are no
tricks involved.
 
I have over 20 years experience graphically illustrating in 3D and
 making videos of inventions without disclosing or making obvious any
patentable details.
 
MY CHALLENGE:

I OFFER FOR FREE -- to sign a non-disclosure and make a completely
convincing demo video of any anti-gravity or perpetual motion device
for attracting investors AFTER my own on-phone and then on-site
thorough testing (debunking) is complete.
 
NOTE: If you ARE using a "trick" I WILL find it and disclose that
trick to all relative sites on the internet along with your photo and
 contact details. There's not many things I hate more than the people
who perpetrate scams! If you're not a scam you have nothing to fear
and I'm not only ready to roll but just as excited as you are. 
 
I believe both of these inventions are possible -- I just haven't seen
one yet. Show me!

 Please feel free to copy/paste my "challenge" above to all relative
 websites or in any relative video comment sections.
 
Oh.. and you don't have to worry about me stealing your invention. In
my 45 years of inventing I have documented 1,009 inventions in my
book. I don't put them in my book unless I'm positive they would
succeed. I'm fully funded and have seven patents in process at this
 writing. At age 62 I can't possibly process and market more than 100
or so. So, I teamed up with the founder of CreativityPool DOT com
(Steve) and he created wikinventions DOT com where I intend to dump
(royalty free) as many of my inventions as possible before I die. It's
 a place to submit inventions to be 'open sourced' for development --
NON PROFIT. After all, what could I possibly gain by taking them all
 to the grave with me? You can't make any money on this open-source
 site but you CAN at least get full credit for having invented the new
product or device. 

I'd much rather give someone 100 of my inventions than even consider
taking on one of theirs... nuff said.
 For the record.. of my current 1,009 inventions, not one has anything to do with anti-gravity or perpetual motion so there's no need to worry about conflict of interests.

#6
                    GRAVITY NEWS

       Links to Gravity news and related science from around the world;

Missing Holes???
MSU research adds to black hole debate;

http://news.msu.edu/story/5632/

That Amazing Devil Gravity;

http://www.popsci.com/breakdown/article/2008-08/amazing-devil-gravity

These next stories are all related in as much as Gravity and Spheres are coming much more into use as novelty transportation devices.There is indeed some variety, and while there are not any motorized versions in this group, it is only a matter of time. I think when potential speeds are firmly grasped there will be a massive wave of new high speed spheres. I once calculated that a heavier than air sphere with only a twenty horsepower electric motor should be able to break 250 mph on the water. Beyond that speed mass vs lift come into play, although smaller lighter spheres with less HP may become airborne at slower speeds, control is an issue as does understanding the magnus effect/ aerodynamics;

Gravity Sphering;

http://www.manilva-leisure.com/spheremania.html

Sphere Mania;

http://www.chepstowoutdooractivities.co.uk/sphere.htm

Daredevils to take on sphereing craze at farm in Longhope.

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/latestnews/Daredevils-sphereing-craze-farm-Longhope/article-266125-detail/article.html

Hydro zorbing in Rotorua;

http://3news.co.nz/News/HealthNews/HydrozorbinginRotorua/tabid/420/articleID/67049/cat/58/Default.aspx

I depart from news at this point to reference some things related to gravitational propulsion. While these are somewhat old, 1-10 years perhaps in this context as I present, they will tingle some brain cells as to new applications.(If you are only interested in the news section this can be ignored.) However, if you want to review some related concepts give these a try.Also for review perhaps looking through the group's files section and photo section would be a good idea, hint for those that are not yet aware, new data is pending.

Old Study on Gravity Balls, but worth review;

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9911210

Geodesics inside a spinning ball of the gravitational field;

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=15682

Interesting example of wavelengths and waveforms in a geometrical setting;

http://www.freesciencelectures.com/video/resonance-phenomena-in-2d-on-a-plane

Velikovsky & Einstein Were Right?;

http://gravityc-idealism.blogspot.com/2006/10/velikovsky-einstein-were-right.html

Gravity & AntiGravity

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DP5/gravity.htm

Mystery 

 #7

                GRAVITY NEWS

       Links to Gravity news and related science from around the world;

Aspect of matter, having possible impact on Fusion/Cold Fusion experiments and having import on measuring the Mass of particles, ie; Gravity Relativity!
Ultracold neutral plasmas;
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v1/2

Cluster points toward Dark Energy;
http://io9.com/5044661/heaviest-farthest-cluster-points-toward-dark-energy

Interesting effect of Gravity on the Rings of Saturn;
The Anthe Arc;
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia11101.html

Science students defy gravity at NASA program;
http://media.www.signal-online.net/media/storage/paper771/news/2008/10/01/Features/Science.Students.Defy.Gravity.At.Nasa.Program-3460389.shtml

And now for something completely different,
Get your Space Junk;
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,24424869-5014239,00.html

 Wanted to also mention again that we are looking for a Gravity Research Reporter for our group to do this Gravity News report, if anyone would like to give it a try let me know, only once a month.

Mystery  

                                                                  GRAVITY NEWS 8

From India,a very informative article on their recent "moon mision" including some very interesting info on Gyros,Reaction Wheels and Accelerometers, see;
http://www.flonnet.com/fl2525/stories/20081219252504000.htm

""Unlike in all earlier satellite missions of ISRO, for Chandrayaan-1, the control gyros, which maintain the spacecraft's attitude, had to be miniaturised," said Annadurai. Similarly, the reaction wheels, which change the orientation of the spacecraft by a spin-up or spin-down operation (as was done during the lunar orbit injection (LOI) manoeuvre and will be done many times during the course of the mission) were not the ones that ISRO normally uses, he pointed out. In Chandrayaan-1, the wheels were spun at a much higher speed to achieve greater torques. "

An interesting gravitational influence image of a ring of Saturn;

http://www.sflorg.com/cassini_gallery/cassini_11_2008/chg110408_01_01

Here again is another application of Gravitational Propulsion, much like the designs we have on file here, called a Ground-bot, this is made of sturdier material than the orbs in an earlier news story.

http://www.popsci.com/bown/2008/product/ground-bot

Also see here;
http://www.rotundus.se/

Flying cars, again?  ;

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/gallery/2008-12/dude-wheres-my-flying-car-and-jetpack-and-fusion-energy
and;
http://www.popsci.com/node/25138

Gravity Control, sure sounds familiar too;
http://www.gravitycontrol.org/

Also for your review;
http://www.dipoleantigravity.blogspot.com/

Seek forward for knowledge in the new year, we have the economic worries always, so do not let that deter you in your quest!

Mystery

                                                          Extra

                      Gravity News 8.1

         A bit of extra news on space propulsion to lift your New Year off to a higher altitude.This comes from Australia and I will leave a link here to the story, it is not too heavy reading as far as technical details, but will give you ideas perhaps to follow up on in your own research;

     Eight high-tech ways to propel a spaceship
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2406/8-deep-space-solutions-to-infinity-and-beyond

NUCLEAR PULSE PROPULSION
SOLAR THERMAL PROPULSION
VACUUM-POWERED SPACECRAFT
MAGNETIC SAILS
SOLAR SAILS
DARK ENERGY WARP DRIVE
ANTIMATTER ENGINES

And our favorite for last;

ARTIFICIAL GRAVITATIONAL FIELDS

I quote from the story here;

"Anti-gravity engines might be possible according to the controversial Extended Heim Theory, which attempts to reconcile general relativity and quantum physics. Scientists have reported anti-gravitational effects, generated with a spinning, superconducting magnet. Jochem Häuser, a physicist at the University of Applied Sciences in Salzgitter, Germany, says that this should produce particles called 'gravitophotons', which have both electromagnetic and gravitational properties. They would produce a gravitational field that pushes against the engine itself, thus accelerating a spacecraft."

        Happy Days, through all Time and Space, May your future be Bright.

Mystery

                               GRAVITY NEWS 9

                      FAST

First for those that might have an experiment that could benefit from zero-G conditions, NASA is calling for experiments involving near Zero-G. Please see the following materials for details.

http://ipp.nasa.gov/ii_fast.htm

Facilitated Access to the Space Environment for Technology Development and Training (FAST)

"LATEST NEWS:  A new call for FAST proposals was posted on January 23, 2009. The call is open to all US companies, individuals, research institutions, universities and government agencies. The proposal deadline is March 20, 2009. See link below for more details and submittal instructions. "
http://ipp.nasa.gov/call_proposals.htm

"FAST utilizes commercially available flight test capabilities such as the Zero Gravity Corporation aircraft for parabolic flights. The current focus is on testing in micro-gravity, reduced-gravity or variable-gravity conditions on parabolic aircraft flights."

And now on to more mysterious aspects relating to Gravity, as we think we know it...

Out-Einsteining Einstein
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090116.wbkgravity17/BNStory/globebooks/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail

"And there is more: Recently, astronomers have discovered that the universe is not only expanding, but also accelerating. Physicists have suggested that some kind of unknown force is acting against gravity, pushing galaxies apart at ever-increasing speeds. For now, this mysterious entity is known as "dark energy." Moffat says MOG's equations "predict a repulsive, anti-gravity component within gravity itself. ... Its effect is to push the fabric of space-time to expand faster and faster" — an explanation, perhaps, for one of the deepest mysteries in physics today."

Seriously...

?

Obama administration first 100 days to promote antigravity technology
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m1d19-Obama-administration-first-100-days-to-promote-antigravity-technology

As to the dimensional aspects of gravitational lensing, there is this;

Mystery Of Twin Quasar Brightness Revealed
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090129090216.htm
"The regions of the disc are therefore radiated, and a part of that radiation is reflected while the other is reprocessed and re-emitted with less energy. This phenomenon is known as "reverberation" and several very recent studies indicate that it could be produced in a large number of quasars."

Mystery

                           GRAVITY NEWS 10

  Much seems to be happening in gravity news as well as in propulsion news. Some may be questionable such as the first item that I link in as news, but as it is being repeated by many sources, I have decided to go ahead and post on this after waiting for further confirmation long enough. Perhaps if it seems too good to be true, well you decide;

Presidential Directive opens door for release of antigravity technology
http://www.voltairenet.org/article159381.html

"Prior to his current appointment as Obama's National Security Advisor, General James Jones was involved in a secretive Boeing Corporation effort to declassify antigravity technology for commercial application. Classified antigravity technologies have been kept from the public realm for over six decades while being secretly developed by military-corporate entities. The door may now be open for the release of such technology.

Classified antigravity technologies have been kept from the public realm for over six decades while secretly developed by military-corporate entities. It was revealed in 1992, for example, that the B-2 Bomber used electrostatic charges on its leading wings and exhaust. According to aerospace experts, this was confirmation that the B-2 used electrogravitic principles based on the Biefeld-Brown Effect. The Biefeld-Brown Effect is based on the research of Thomas Townsend Brown who in 1928 gained a patent for his practical application of how high voltage electrostatic charges can reduce the weight of objects. The B-2 bomber employs sufficiently high voltages to significantly reduce its weight. This enables the B-2 and other classified antigravity vehicles to display flight characteristics that appear to defy conventional laws of physics. The idea that advanced antigravity technologies exist and have been developed by military-corporate entities is supported by the former CEO for Lockheed Skunk works. Ben Rich said:

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.. anything you can imagine we already know how to do. "" "

This Gravity Mapping mission is well documented on the other hand and has some interest.

The European Space Agency has launched its Goce gravity mapping satellite.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7945170.stm

"Goce left Earth at 1421 GMT on a modified intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome in north-west Russia.
The mission will give scientists new insights into how the interior of the planet is structured and provide key information on how the oceans move.
The satellite is part of an armada of European spacecraft being sent up to study the planet. "

GOCE: Orbiting on the edge
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Operations/SEMDPBXX3RF_0.html

" Orbiting on the edge of space at just 268 km, GOCE would have a mere eight days before sinking dangerously low if its ion propulsion should fail. Some of the first responders who would have to react in such a contingency are the flight dynamics specialists on ESA's Operations Team.
 
To achieve the mission's crucial scientific objectives, ESA's GOCE (Gravity field and steady-state Ocean Circulation Explorer) must orbit as low as possible, in order to sense minute variations in the Earth's gravitational field (see links for background on mission objectives). "

Perhaps the following is little more than a stabilizer, but even gyros should have some form of backup as witnessed by the CMG's on the ISS, so this little propulsion mite deserves mention in the propulsion area;

ESA designs its smallest ever space engine to push back against sunshine
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMMY3XX3RF_index_0.html

"This month an ESA team is preparing to test the performance of the smallest yet most precisely controllable engine ever built for space, sensitive enough to counteract the force of incoming sunshine.
 
Measuring only ten centimetres across and emitting a faint blue glow as it runs, the Field Emission Electric Propulsion (FEEP) engine produces an average thrust equivalent to the force of a single falling hair. But despite its low power, FEEP's thrust range and controllability are far superior to more forceful thrusters, holding the key to future success of an ambitious ESA science mission. "

Ah, here is the link to a video on YouTube that shows an astronaut demonstrating the gyroscopic forces that are demonstrated by even a small CD player in space. As he adds more and more CD players the resulting Gyroscopically Stabilized Platform is actually quite impressive. A must view for those that are attempting to understand that gyroscopes do function in space as well as how they function. I highly recommend review of this little space experiment.

YouTube - Gyroscopically stabilized CD-player(s) in microgravity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAmEEAiJWo

Mystery 

     Here are some very interesting points being announced concerning Control of natural forces and shifting of Quantum states en mass;

The Control of the Natural Forces;

http://www.lowcarboneconomy.com/community_content/_tips_did_you_know/5360

QUOTE;
"This author coupled these ideas together into Znidarsic's theorem; "The constants of the motion tend toward those of the electromagnetic a Bose condensate that is stimulated at a dimensional frequency of 1.094 megahertz-meters." This theorem describes the process of quantum transition. It describes the progression of an energy flow. The model reveals that the vibration of superconductors and proton conductors may place these systems into a state of quantum transition. Millions of atoms may be adjoined into a single state of quantum transition. Strong gravitational and long range nuclear affects will be induced. The long range nuclear affects can be employed for the reduction of nuclear waste and the production of power. The strong gravitational affects may be used for propulsion. This new understanding may result in technologies that will carry mankind to the stars."

End Quote.

Mystery

   Here is a partial quote from a recent release from Yahoo, concerning new sharing options for Yahoo groups;

"WHAT AND WHY

Over the past few months across Yahoo!, you may have noticed a new feature called "Updates", which is a way to share what you're doing on Yahoo! with your connections and to see what your connections are up to on Yahoo! as well.

Yesterday, this feature was introduced to Yahoo! Groups giving users the option of sharing their activity on Groups into their Updates feed on http://profiles. yahoo.com. For example:

* A user posting pictures to a quilting group could share these pictures with their friends as well.

* A user who has posted to a travel group about the best rides at Disney World could let their connections know about this review in case they also had Disney plans.

* A user who has posted an answer to a tax question on an accounting group with public archives could in essence publish their answer to all their connections or anyone who comes across their profile.

For members, Updates is a way to offer more exposure to the content they have created and to effortlessly share with friends.

For moderators, Updates can drive new members and increase the level of activity in their groups.

FEATURE SUMMARY

* Updates allows an easy way to share your group updates with all your connections (ie. Updates are shown to your connection across Yahoo properties such as Yahoo Mail, Yahoo IM, Yahoo Profiles).

* Currently only photo updates are being published. In the upcoming weeks more update types such as message posts, polls, links etc. will be published. When you opt-in to this feature all your update types will be published as they become available.

* Updates is a feature that is fully opt-in per user per group (ie. you can opt-in in one group while remaining opted-out in another).

* Updates is defaulted off for all groups. No updates will be shared unless you explicitly opt-in."

This may help to fire up yahoo groups again and increase use as it will add further distribution of scientific data, news, photos and more. Also it seems to imply a new social networking aspect being introduced to groups, that will make groups more competitive with other social networking sites.Now if we can only get them to bring back our Chat Rooms.

Mystery

link to problem site
http://knol.google.com/k/alex-belov/paradox-of-classical-mechanics-2/1xmqm1l0s4y\
s/9#

The idea is very simple.

If spit a rolling ring to small parts set of n elements (1,2,3,...,n) with mass
m then each of them conduct linear and circular movement on surface.

Each piece has constant angular velocity. Each piece of ring has variable linear
velocity at surface point. Once per circle each element of ring stop on surface.
At surface point this element has linear velocity value equal to zero.

The ring must be broken in one location and one element of chain which has a
zero value of linear velocity holding by the surface. This is not mean to stop
the whole ring at this time. This mean stop the red piece and cut the ring at
the same time. The surface holds just one element of ring and other elements of
chain is continuing movement by own trajectories.

If calculate net linear momentum of these elements then this net should be equal
to this ring initial linear momentum. But one of these elements is stop already
and net momentum will be for n-1 elements. In this case one element has been
join to the surface and mass is M(suface) + m(element). Set of elements has a
mass equal to (n-1)*m now. It's change initial condition. The surface is still
keeping same momentum and increase own mass. But chain (set of elements n-1)
should hold same ring initial momentum.


Is this net of linear momentums for set of elements n-1 with net mass (n-1)*m is
equal to the ring initial linear momentum?

Would set of n-1 elements return whole ring momentum back to surface?

Will this surface return to initial velocity?


In problem complexity

Each element of chain won't stop at the same time. Each element has different
momentum but same mass m. If join each stopped element to the surface, then
surface mass increase faster than chain return momentum. This means the surface
mass growth will help ground to keep own momentum.



My suggestion:

If ring has set of n elements then for surface point only ring's set of n-1
elements is always move. But one element with zero value of velocity stand down
and it will be always part to surface.

For this particular case, this set of n-1 elements (broken thin ring or chain)
not equivalent to set of n elements (initial ring). Base on law of momentum
conservation net momentum for set n-1 elements would have same initial momentum,
but momentum density will change for each element of this set n-1. The surface
will take all elements momentums back when they'll stop. Base on law of momentum
conservation, from same momentum the body with higher mass will take lower
velocity then body with lower mass.

Initially:
The ring has mass n*m
The surface has mass M

After ring to chain conversion:
The chain has mass (n-1)*m
The surface has mass M+m

P = m*V = const


m1*V1 = m2*V2

The surface with new mass will take a velocity V1 from set of elements n-1. This
velocity is different from initial surface velocity V0, because the surface mass
has been changed.

Follow the law of momentum conservation, even all elements of broken ring will
stop on the surface, this surface will have linear velocity more than zero.

The surface will return back to initial velocity V=0 if rest of the chain could
increase momentum on cut action. But it's nonsense. Base on law of momentum
conservation the chain should keep same initial ring's momentum.

mirror of this problem page is:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze27vxm/index.htm

Just keep in mind. This model has 3 phases. Bodies at phase1 is different from
bodies at phase3. The law of momentum conservation works, but it gives different
result for bodies with different mass.

This is the comment from other forum.

"If the platform is completely free to move (say floating in outer space)
momentum conservation requires that it will end up with a positive forward
velocity V=(nm/(M+nm) )v. Kinetic energy is not conserved because as each link
slaps down on the surface some energy is converted to heat.

For a full ring rolling at constant velocity there's no horizontal force between
the bottom of the ring and the surface but that requires the ring to be balanced
(rotationally symmetric). As links become missing from the circle that's no
longer true so the succeeding links that hit the surface do have a forward pull
on them accelerating the platform forward."
Please read and look on knol site for details.
http://knol.google.com/k/alex-belov/paradox-of-classical-mechanics-2/1xmqm1l0s4y\
s/9#


--- In gravitationalpropulsionstevenson@yahoogroups.com, "abelov0927"
<abelov0927@...> wrote:
>
> link to problem site
>
http://knol.google.com/k/alex-belov/paradox-of-classical-mechanics-2/1xmqm1l0s4y\
s/9#
>
> The idea is very simple.
>
> If spit a rolling ring to small parts set of n elements (1,2,3,...,n) with
mass m then each of them conduct linear and circular movement on surface.
>
> Each piece has constant angular velocity. Each piece of ring has variable
linear velocity at surface point. Once per circle each element of ring stop on
surface. At surface point this element has linear velocity value equal to zero.
>
> The ring must be broken in one location and one element of chain which has a
zero value of linear velocity holding by the surface. This is not mean to stop
the whole ring at this time. This mean stop the red piece and cut the ring at
the same time. The surface holds just one element of ring and other elements of
chain is continuing movement by own trajectories.
>
> If calculate net linear momentum of these elements then this net should be
equal to this ring initial linear momentum. But one of these elements is stop
already and net momentum will be for n-1 elements. In this case one element has
been join to the surface and mass is M(suface) + m(element). Set of elements has
a mass equal to (n-1)*m now. It's change initial condition. The surface is still
keeping same momentum and increase own mass. But chain (set of elements n-1)
should hold same ring initial momentum.
>
>
> Is this net of linear momentums for set of elements n-1 with net mass (n-1)*m
is equal to the ring initial linear momentum?
>
> Would set of n-1 elements return whole ring momentum back to surface?
>
> Will this surface return to initial velocity?
>
>
> In problem complexity
>
> Each element of chain won't stop at the same time. Each element has different
momentum but same mass m. If join each stopped element to the surface, then
surface mass increase faster than chain return momentum. This means the surface
mass growth will help ground to keep own momentum.
>
>
>
> My suggestion:
>
> If ring has set of n elements then for surface point only ring's set of n-1
elements is always move. But one element with zero value of velocity stand down
and it will be always part to surface.
>
> For this particular case, this set of n-1 elements (broken thin ring or chain)
not equivalent to set of n elements (initial ring). Base on law of momentum
conservation net momentum for set n-1 elements would have same initial momentum,
but momentum density will change for each element of this set n-1. The surface
will take all elements momentums back when they'll stop. Base on law of momentum
conservation, from same momentum the body with higher mass will take lower
velocity then body with lower mass.
>
> Initially:
> The ring has mass n*m
> The surface has mass M
>
> After ring to chain conversion:
> The chain has mass (n-1)*m
> The surface has mass M+m
>
> P = m*V = const
>
>
> m1*V1 = m2*V2
>
> The surface with new mass will take a velocity V1 from set of elements n-1.
This velocity is different from initial surface velocity V0, because the surface
mass has been changed.
>
> Follow the law of momentum conservation, even all elements of broken ring will
stop on the surface, this surface will have linear velocity more than zero.
>
> The surface will return back to initial velocity V=0 if rest of the chain
could increase momentum on cut action. But it's nonsense. Base on law of
momentum conservation the chain should keep same initial ring's momentum.
>