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#30 From: "Martin Paulo" <martin.paulo@...>
Date: Wed Jul 9, 2008 10:49 am
Subject: An interesting article
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On using Groovy and Grails and the Java Persistence API with MySQL

http://weblogs.java.net/blog/caroljmcdonald/archive/2008/07/sample_store_ca_2.ht\
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#29 From: "realrandin" <realrandin@...>
Date: Sat May 31, 2008 1:56 am
Subject: New site
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This is a new grails tutorial site just in time for us Noobs :P


www.grailstutorials.com

#28 From: "Martin Paulo" <martin.paulo@...>
Date: Tue May 20, 2008 11:29 am
Subject: Two Groovy items of possible interest:
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A presentation at InfoQ on "Getting started with Grails"

http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/05/presentation-rudolph-grails

And referenced from that site, IBM's basic getting started with Groovy tutorial
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/j-dw-java-jgroovy-i.html?S_TACT=105AGY09&S_CMP=infoqq1

Martin


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#27 From: "realrandin" <realrandin@...>
Date: Fri May 9, 2008 9:01 am
Subject: Hello
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Good evening (at lest when I write this) I'm very new to Groovy on
Grails, my future father-in-law got me interested in it. Thank you for
letting me join your user group, I was wondering if you meet and if so
when, also what are the levels of knowledge for Groovy within the
membership?

#26 From: "snaglepus" <rob.james@...>
Date: Thu May 8, 2008 12:22 am
Subject: Re: MOP meeting, IntelliJ update & a question
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IntelliJ is definitely the tool to use for developing Groovy and in particular
Grails apps. I
have used eclipse before and it is pretty good, and I have plaid with Netbeans
which is
improving, but IntelliJ has all the nice things that you want such as
re-factoring.

It also supports lots of the Gant scripts within the environment for doing
Grails work such
as creating controllers, domains and services etc. It is also very cool how it
knows all the
related assets when working within a certain file - such as all views and
controllers being
1 click away when working with the domain class.

Well worth the investment for the time it will save you..

RJ


--- In groovy-melbourne@yahoogroups.com, "Shravan Gurrala" <shravan.g@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Martin and all New to Groovy,
> Am new to groovy and i find GroovyConsole very handy when i want to try out
> few
> snippets. If you are doing more serious programming i would looking into
> IntelliJ.
> If you are a poor programmer like me then i think Eclipse is a good option
> even though
> its not as fancy as IntelliJ....there is not much there if a text editor
> like ultraedit or jedit
> doesn't cut.
>
> BTW: The groovy podcast was very good. Thanks for that.
> cheers
> Shravan
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Martin Paulo <martin.paulo@...>
> wrote:
>
> >   Hi all
> >
> > Lots of "ands", but: anyone who is not on the VJUG mailing list, and who
> > missed Brents talk to the Groovy User Group on the Meta-Object Protocol
> > might like to see him reprise it tomorrow night to the VJUG.
> >
> > Details can be found here:
> > https://victorianjug.dev.java.net/2008/April/April.html
> >
> > There is a copy of Intellij being given away, which reminds me: IDEA have
> > just released an update to their Groovy/Grails plugin. This may be of
> > interest to this group. Details can be found here:
> > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/groovy_grails.html?nl
> >
> > And the question: being new to Grails/Groovy, what tools are you all using
> > for Groovy/Grails work?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> >
> > Martin Paulo, BSc.
> > Software Developer
> >
> > Tel : +61-3-9434 2508 (Home)
> > Tel : 04 205 20339 (Mobile)
> > Site: http://www.thepaulofamily.net
> > Web Log: http://radio.weblogs.com/0130781/
> >
> > "Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded" - Yogi Berra.
> >
> >
>

#25 From: "Shravan Gurrala" <shravan.g@...>
Date: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:34 am
Subject: Re: MOP meeting, IntelliJ update & a question
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Hi Martin and all New to Groovy,
Am new to groovy and i find GroovyConsole very handy when i want to try out few
snippets. If you are doing more serious programming i would looking into IntelliJ.
If you are a poor programmer like me then i think Eclipse is a good option even though
its not as fancy as IntelliJ....there is not much there if a text editor like ultraedit or jedit
doesn't cut. 

BTW: The groovy podcast was very good. Thanks for that.
cheers
Shravan

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Martin Paulo <martin.paulo@...> wrote:

Hi all

Lots of "ands", but: anyone who is not on the VJUG mailing list, and who missed Brents talk to the Groovy User Group on the Meta-Object Protocol might like to see him reprise it tomorrow night to the VJUG.

Details can be found here:
https://victorianjug.dev.java.net/2008/April/April.html

There is a copy of Intellij being given away, which reminds me: IDEA have just released an update to their Groovy/Grails plugin. This may be of interest to this group. Details can be found here: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/groovy_grails.html?nl

And the question: being new to Grails/Groovy, what tools are you all using for Groovy/Grails work?

Thanks
Martin


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#24 From: "Martin Paulo" <martin.paulo@...>
Date: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:15 am
Subject: Groovy podcast
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Hi all

There is a groovy podcast just been put up on the pragmatic programmer site:

The url is:
http://www.pragprog.com/podcasts

The blurb is:
"Venkat Subramaniam, author of "Programming Groovy: Dynamic Productivity for the Java Developer" talks at length with Daniel Steinberg about coding in Groovy, metaprogramming, and choosing a language. You'll learn when Groovy is a great choice, and when it's not. Venkat shares how to use builders to relieve the tedium of XML processing, explains why metaprogramming is so hard in Java, and why type-safety isn't what you think. Finally, Venkat explains how programming is a lot like a chainsaw."

Martin

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#23 From: "Martin Paulo" <martin.paulo@...>
Date: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:42 am
Subject: MOP meeting, IntelliJ update & a question
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Hi all

Lots of "ands", but: anyone who is not on the VJUG mailing list, and who missed Brents talk to the Groovy User Group on the Meta-Object Protocol might like to see him reprise it tomorrow night to the VJUG.

Details can be found here:
https://victorianjug.dev.java.net/2008/April/April.html

There is a copy of Intellij being given away, which reminds me: IDEA have just released an update to their Groovy/Grails plugin. This may be of interest to this group. Details can be found here: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/groovy_grails.html?nl

And the question: being new to Grails/Groovy, what tools are you all using for Groovy/Grails work?

Thanks
Martin


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#22 From: "Martin Paulo" <martin.paulo@...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:19 am
Subject: "Dont throw your scripting engines away"
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This sounds obvious on reading, but probably a gotcha to people new to Groovy (like me)

When you create a ScriptEngine in Java6 to run Groovy scripts reuse the engine - don't throw it away and create a new one for every script. The full article is at:

http://www.jroller.com/greeneyed/entry/don_t_throw_your_scriptengines

Are there any words of wisdom about this from people on this list?

Thanks
Martin


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Date: Fri Apr 4, 2008 6:45 am
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#20 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:53 am
Subject: Re: Understanding Groovy's Elvis Operator
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I don't know of the top of my head, but maybe you can try asking here
http://www.nabble.com/codehaus---Groovy-f11866.html

#19 From: "z_clair_s" <z_clair_s@...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:48 pm
Subject: Understanding Groovy's Elvis Operator
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Hello,

Could someone please let me know why this assertion is incorrect.  I
hava an Addresss object with three properties. Each time I access the
Address I would like to initialize it with empty strings or keep the
values if they already exist.

class Address
{
      String aptNum, poBox, zip

} // Address

class AddressIni
{
      Address address;

      AddressIni( Address address )
      {
          this.address = address;
          address.aptNum ?: ""
          address.poBox ?: ""
      }

} // AddressIni

      Address address = new Address( aptNum : '300' );

      AddressIni ai = new AddressIni(address);

      assert "300" == ai.address.aptNum
      assert "" == ai.address.poBox ////////// INCORRECT ASSERTION - WHY


Why is the last assertion wrong. I expect the address.poBox property to
be initialized to "" in the AddressIni class. Somehow this does not seem
to happen.



Thanks.

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Date: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:35 am
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#17 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:35 pm
Subject: No User Group Meeting tonight ...
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A Groovy New Year to All !

There will not be a user group meeting tonight, 7th Jan 2008.

We will organize a meeting and presentation for the first Monday in
February.

Rgs, James.

#16 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Tue Dec 4, 2007 9:23 pm
Subject: Mopping Up With Groovy by Brent Snook ...
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At the Melbourne Groovy user Group, Brent Snook presented on the Groovy Meta-Object Protocol.

Brent did a great job and the presentation is available in the files section of these user group pages,
or here  on my blog.

Rgs, James.

#15 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:06 pm
Subject: groovy user group, Mon 3 rd December ...
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All,

The next groovy user group, Mon 3rd December will be presented by
Brent Snook, from Aegeon.
The topic for this month is the Meta Object Protocol, and if you want
to know the awesome
power of groovy then this is a session not to be missed.

If your coming along, please let me know so I can work out the pizza
order.

Rgs James.

#14 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:31 am
Subject: Groovy User Group Meeting, Monday 6:30pm
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The Groovy User Group meeting is on this Monday 12th at 6:30pm.

The topic this month is grails in a nutshell. A quick 101 on what
grails is all about and why you should use it.

We hope to see you there.

Rgs, James

Aegeon, Level 5, 10 Queens Rd, Melbourne.

#13 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:07 pm
Subject: Moved: Next Groovy User Group November 12th ...
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All,

Monday 5th November is the day before Melbourne Cup Day, so we
are moving the user group to the following Monday, 12th November.

Have a great Cup Day and see you at the user group.

Rgs, James.

#12 From: "snaglepus" <rob.james@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:39 pm
Subject: Groovy and Grails get Financial Backing!!!
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#11 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Tue Oct 9, 2007 10:24 pm
Subject: Is groovy and grails ready for prime time ?
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Is groovy and grails ready for prime time ?
SAP seem to think so !!

SAP using groovy and grails 

#10 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2007 10:34 pm
Subject: Thankyou: first user group meeting a success !
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Thank you to Dr Paul King and thank you to everyone who attended the
first Melbourne Groovy User group meeting at Aegeon.

We had a good turn out and the slides and video will be posted as soon
as possible.

We look forward to seeing you at the next meeting which is the first
Monday of each month (Monday 5th November).

The topic of the next meeting will be a brief introduction into
grails, an application generation, framework and life-cycle tool,
similar to Ruby's Rails.

Rgs, James.

#9 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:45 pm
Subject: Reminder: Groovy User Group 1st October ....
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Please don't forget that the first Melbourne Groovy User Group meeting
will be on Monday 1st October.

Please let others know it is on and to join this group form more
information.

Don't forget, Paul King co-author of Groovy In Action is presenting !

#8 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Sun Sep 2, 2007 9:50 pm
Subject: groovy user group: paul king is coming ...
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All,

We are very excited to announce that Paul King a co-author of the book
"Groovy In action" (Manning) will be attending the Groovy User Group
hosted by Aegeon on Monday 1st October.

Please spread the word so we can make a really good turn out for Paul
and for the first user group meeting.

The meeting will be held in the Aegeon office, Level 5, 10 Queens Rd,
Melbourne from 6:30pm.

Rgs, James.

#7 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:09 am
Subject: 1st User Group Meeting ...
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All,

We are planning to hold the user group meetings on the first Monday of
each month, starting on 1st October 2007.

We are also planning on having some special presenters and some book
give-aways.

We hope you will let your friends know about the group and bring them
along with you.

Keep well,

Rgs, James.

#6 From: groovy-melbourne@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Aug 1, 2007 7:27 pm
Subject: Poll results for groovy-melbourne
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The following groovy-melbourne poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: We plan to hold a meeting on one day per month from 6:30pm -
8:30pm and would like to know which day of the month suits most people?
For example, the first Monday of each month?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Monday, 3 votes, 23.08%
- Tuesday, 2 votes, 15.38%
- Wednesday, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Thursday, 2 votes, 15.38%
- Friday, 0 votes, 0.00%
- First Week, 4 votes, 30.77%
- Second Week, 2 votes, 15.38%
- Third Week, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Last Week, 0 votes, 0.00%



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#5 From: "James Ladd" <james.ladd@...>
Date: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:52 am
Subject: Please vote: Groovy Melbourne User Group Meeting day ...
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Please let us know which day of which week you would most like the
user group to meet.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/groovy-melbourne/


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>
> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> groovy-melbourne group:
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> We plan to hold a meeting on one day per month from 6:30pm - 8:30pm
and would like to know which day of the month suits most people?
> For example, the first Monday of each month?
>
>   o Monday
>   o Tuesday
>   o Wednesday
>   o Thursday
>   o Friday
>
>
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
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#4 From: "snaglepus" <rob.james@...>
Date: Tue Jul 3, 2007 11:59 am
Subject: Re: Hi
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I think we should have a meeting in the not to distant future. Seems to be a but
of interest
around Groovy and Grails....

--- In groovy-melbourne@yahoogroups.com, "scottwarrenshaw" <scottwshaw@...>
wrote:
>
> Fantastic to see some interest in Groovy and scripting languages in
> general.  I'm really interested to see what people might be using it
> for since Ruby seems to have stolen the limelight.  When's the next
> meeting?
>
>  - Scott
>

#3 From: "snaglepus" <rob.james@...>
Date: Tue Jul 3, 2007 11:58 am
Subject: Another Groovy Framework
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Here is a framework that I came across this evening. Part of an IBM incubator -
another web
framework that is using Groovy.

http://www.projectzero.org/wiki/bin/view/

#2 From: groovy-melbourne@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:24 pm
Subject: New poll for groovy-melbourne
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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
groovy-melbourne group:

We plan to hold a meeting on one day per month from 6:30pm - 8:30pm and would
like to know which day of the month suits most people?
For example, the first Monday of each month?

   o Monday
   o Tuesday
   o Wednesday
   o Thursday
   o Friday


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/groovy-melbourne/surveys?id=2224797

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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Thanks!

#1 From: "scottwarrenshaw" <scottwshaw@...>
Date: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:29 pm
Subject: Hi
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Fantastic to see some interest in Groovy and scripting languages in
general.  I'm really interested to see what people might be using it
for since Ruby seems to have stolen the limelight.  When's the next
meeting?

  - Scott

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