... many ... much ... simpler way. Hi all, I just started reading Chapter 1. (Thanks Nat & Steve for posting the book online). Maybe it's just my eye-sight....
At the beginning of the section “Unit Testing Collaborating Objects” you say that “We appear to have painted ourselves into a corner”. In the previous...
Very good points. Thanks for taking the time to give us such excellent feedback. We've had discussion about whether we should talk about the difference between...
... We're trying to come up with a different visualisation that works better in the small space available in the print format. Maybe we'll sketch a few...
... excellent feedback. Geen dank, like they say here in Holland. No worries, any time. Actually, I was trying to explain the law of demeter and wanted to ...
... Thanks. That kind of style feedback is really valuable. What we want to get across is that every part of the process can (should?) be test-driven....
Hi Nat and Steve, Before starting please understand that English is not my mothers language, so i might have misunderstood or simply missed stuff you wrote or...
Hi, about the following sentence: "So, to be easy to unit test, an object must have explicit dependencies that can easily be substituted, and have clear ...
Hi, before I begin let me borrow that... ... Ok, that said... In the "Unit Testing Collaborating Objects" you start to talk about target object, which of...
Hi, I agree with earlier comments that the text so far is just the right length. I personally hate to read pages of text when I think the concept can be...
... Great! ... I guess we're emphasising the point because we know some people advocate the opposite: develop the end-to-end test infrastructure later, after...
Hi Nat, Steve, Very enjoyable writings so far! ... I wonder if the word "infrastructure" implies more than you intend here? Did you mean that you get the first...
These first 3 chapters are really great! It's incredibly helpful for our team which is attempting to adopt TDD for the first time. I've been doing a lot of...
I found chapter 3 - "Kick-Starting the Test-Driven Cycle" a really interesting read. Are there any plans to elaborate a bit on the discussion of broad brush...
... We'll add a photo of a broad-brush design drawn on a whiteboard in a team-room, which will hopefully help explain the level of detail we find useful....
I'd also say that there will some of this in the worked example. S. ... Steve Freeman Winner of the Agile Alliance Gordon Pask award 2006 http://www.m3p.co.uk ...
Hi there. Enjoying the read thus far; I am mid-way through Chapter One. One technical glitch: the link "Separate tests-as-progress and tests-as-regression"...
Hi, just some nuances I am not a native English speaker nor writer so my style is necessarily in form of a table. Feedback is the Fundamental Tool A) It...
Hi, everybody. Here my comments revisited: Test-Driven Development in a Nutshell As we develop the system, we use TDD to give us feedback on the quality of...
Hi, everybody. A) I have read all three chapters so my first concern with the ch.2 is global (transverse if you want): I feel that the level and the place of...
... We're putting up chapters one at a time, but our publishing tool chain doesn't keep track of what has been pushed to the web or not and probably never will...
... In this book we're particularly focusing on how tests drive design and development, not on testing for QA. From that point of view, the distinction...
... Hi. Probably some hybrid, but closer to the latter. The aim is to have a system always ready for deployment, so that the customer always has an option of...
... etc. etc. I think we're in violent agreement about this. Every language -- Java, Smalltalk, Cobol, C, Ruby, etc. -- has its own way of modularising a...
When you put it that way, it makes sense. For our project, unit tests and integration tests are very different because we use a mocking framework to truly...
We will be talking about Mocks later on, but that can't be the only form of testing that we use. S. ... Steve Freeman Winner of the Agile Alliance Gordon Pask...
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