Sorry that my first comment is negative, but I find this an innapproriate, unnecessary and generalisation likely to cause offense. I'd suggest removing it, or...
OK. It's gone. ... Steve Freeman Winner of the Agile Alliance Gordon Pask award 2006 http://www.m3p.co.uk M3P Limited. Registered office. 2 Church Street,...
Just republished to the website. We've been doing a lot of work in Parts III and IV, and some rework in the example. Unfortunately, the diagrams seem to have...
"There are different opinions about whether test values should be literals..." I'd like to see more of these types of discussions, weighing up the pros & cons,...
I haven't read much further yet, so apologies if the following is covered later on... When to mock a 3rd party library would be an interesting side discussion....
Hi. My name is Chris Tucker. I'm a (new) member of the Silicon Valley Patterns group, and am covering/discussing the book in the current track there. Most of...
The example is giving me problems. It's a long read, and requires careful parsing of the source code to really get a good handle on it. There seem to be some...
I know it's possibly too late in the day to make such a big change, but I do think this is a good idea. I didn't recognise it at the time but, looking back, I...
/Now/ you tell me? :) Part of our intention was to avoid some of the hand-wavy writing we see that gives people general principles but says nothing about what ...
I'm sorry! I was too caught up in the trees! For me, it's not really parts 3 and 4 that are the problem, but section 2 (the worked example). I think the book...
Sorry, I meant 2 and 3. So, now I'm thinking Parts: 1) Introduction 2) The process of TDD (1st four chapters of part III) 3) Example 4) Sustainable TDD (2nd...
... OK. Sometimes it's hard for us to tell from the inside when to stop and consider. ... The trouble is that I personally don't think there's a trade-off with...
I don't really have an opinion about merging, but I do think that sequence you suggest would make the book easier to read. David 2009/6/1 Steve Freeman...
... I like this approach. The example is still long so I wonder if it might be possible to break it up into a couple of pieces, but having not finished...
Hi, apologies for joining the fun a bit late. I'm Mauro Talevi. I provide development and methodology consultancy, primarily on enterprise server-based...
I'm not keen to demote the example (having spent so much time on it), not least because it's the one thing that the other books don't do -- show you how to...
Hi Steve, I haven't had opportunity to read the full material, but I agree on the value of the example. I haven't seen an explicit, detailed description of...
... Have you thought about accompanying it with a (free) online screencast of you working through it? It would be really cool to have a worked example with you...
There's a new drop of the PDF at http://www.mockobjects.com/freeman-pryce-current.pdf where we've moved the example around. We've still to go over the linking...
Hi Guys My first chance to sit down and read, and my first impressions are really good. I'm taking the opportunity to note all the things that jar on my way...
I'm really enjoying the book, and seems a shame to find fault, but I guess that's the point. Page 13 Music is the space between the notes Nice quote Page 14 ...
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