I know it's possibly too late in the day to make such a big change, but I do think this is a good idea. I didn't recognise it at the time but, looking back, I...
/Now/ you tell me? :) Part of our intention was to avoid some of the hand-wavy writing we see that gives people general principles but says nothing about what ...
I'm sorry! I was too caught up in the trees! For me, it's not really parts 3 and 4 that are the problem, but section 2 (the worked example). I think the book...
Sorry, I meant 2 and 3. So, now I'm thinking Parts: 1) Introduction 2) The process of TDD (1st four chapters of part III) 3) Example 4) Sustainable TDD (2nd...
... OK. Sometimes it's hard for us to tell from the inside when to stop and consider. ... The trouble is that I personally don't think there's a trade-off with...
I don't really have an opinion about merging, but I do think that sequence you suggest would make the book easier to read. David 2009/6/1 Steve Freeman...
... I like this approach. The example is still long so I wonder if it might be possible to break it up into a couple of pieces, but having not finished...
Hi, apologies for joining the fun a bit late. I'm Mauro Talevi. I provide development and methodology consultancy, primarily on enterprise server-based...
I'm not keen to demote the example (having spent so much time on it), not least because it's the one thing that the other books don't do -- show you how to...
Hi Steve, I haven't had opportunity to read the full material, but I agree on the value of the example. I haven't seen an explicit, detailed description of...
... Have you thought about accompanying it with a (free) online screencast of you working through it? It would be really cool to have a worked example with you...
There's a new drop of the PDF at http://www.mockobjects.com/freeman-pryce-current.pdf where we've moved the example around. We've still to go over the linking...
Hi Guys My first chance to sit down and read, and my first impressions are really good. I'm taking the opportunity to note all the things that jar on my way...
I'm really enjoying the book, and seems a shame to find fault, but I guess that's the point. Page 13 Music is the space between the notes Nice quote Page 14 ...
For me the detailed example is very valuable, the extended example is what sets this book apart from many others. Reading through it, is like pairing with...
Having seen what a great job Mail did of preserving my careful copy and pasted format, I'm going to opt for all the same font, delineated with colour Page 21 ...
Hi Steve and Nat, (If anyone from the Silicon Valley Patterns Group follows up on this, please join the "growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests" yahoo group and...
Hi Steve and Nat, (If anyone from the Silicon Valley Patterns Group follows up on this, please join the "growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests" yahoo group and...
Steve, I wanted to move our discussion onto the boards as per your suggestion. I've been thinking, and realized the for non-forensic development, the 3 skills...
The new PDF looks great. I haven't re-read in order yet, but just from looking at the rough structure it feels more comfortable. I hope it didn't seem I was...
Steve and Nat, I largely concur with Russ's comments, but have a different take on the example, with the caveat that I'm only up to chapter 10 of the 4/25...
... don't feel shy about commenting -- although we might disagree :) ... we have been thinking about this, not least because we need teaching material, but...
Off topic, but keeping the record clear... Buried in my earlier feedback I said in passing: I think I coined the term (at least I'd never heard it when I...
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