... Have you thought about accompanying it with a (free) online screencast of you working through it? It would be really cool to have a worked example with you...
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Kim Gräsman
kimgrasman
Jun 3, 2009 7:58 pm
Hi Steve, I haven't had opportunity to read the full material, but I agree on the value of the example. I haven't seen an explicit, detailed description of...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Jun 3, 2009 9:35 am
I'm not keen to demote the example (having spent so much time on it), not least because it's the one thing that the other books don't do -- show you how to...
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Mauro Talevi
maurotalevi
Jun 2, 2009 12:59 pm
Hi, apologies for joining the fun a bit late. I'm Mauro Talevi. I provide development and methodology consultancy, primarily on enterprise server-based...
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cjtucker_80
Jun 2, 2009 8:23 am
... I like this approach. The example is still long so I wonder if it might be possible to break it up into a couple of pieces, but having not finished...
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Pete Keller
pete_keller
Jun 1, 2009 5:55 pm
I would also agree that I got more out of section II after I had read sections III and IV. Pete...
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scottsmith177732
scottsmith17...
Jun 1, 2009 4:35 pm
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David Peterson
dpeterson72
Jun 1, 2009 1:49 pm
I don't really have an opinion about merging, but I do think that sequence you suggest would make the book easier to read. David 2009/6/1 Steve Freeman...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Jun 1, 2009 11:23 am
... OK. Sometimes it's hard for us to tell from the inside when to stop and consider. ... The trouble is that I personally don't think there's a trade-off with...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Jun 1, 2009 11:01 am
Sorry, I meant 2 and 3. So, now I'm thinking Parts: 1) Introduction 2) The process of TDD (1st four chapters of part III) 3) Example 4) Sustainable TDD (2nd...
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David Peterson
dpeterson72
Jun 1, 2009 9:37 am
I'm sorry! I was too caught up in the trees! For me, it's not really parts 3 and 4 that are the problem, but section 2 (the worked example). I think the book...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Jun 1, 2009 8:53 am
/Now/ you tell me? :) Part of our intention was to avoid some of the hand-wavy writing we see that gives people general principles but says nothing about what ...
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David Peterson
dpeterson72
Jun 1, 2009 7:46 am
I know it's possibly too late in the day to make such a big change, but I do think this is a good idea. I didn't recognise it at the time but, looking back, I...
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cjtucker_80
Jun 1, 2009 6:20 am
The example is giving me problems. It's a long read, and requires careful parsing of the source code to really get a good handle on it. There seem to be some...
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cjtucker_80
Jun 1, 2009 6:20 am
Hi. My name is Chris Tucker. I'm a (new) member of the Silicon Valley Patterns group, and am covering/discussing the book in the current track there. Most of...
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Nat Pryce
nat_pryce
May 29, 2009 7:38 pm
... We do discuss working with third party code in more detail later on, in part 3 and 4. --Nat....
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stephen.cresswell@...
stephen.cres...
May 29, 2009 2:15 pm
I haven't read much further yet, so apologies if the following is covered later on... When to mock a 3rd party library would be an interesting side discussion....
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stephen.cresswell@...
stephen.cres...
May 29, 2009 1:01 pm
On Page 95 the bullet points are numbered 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4. It would be clearer if they didn't restart....
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stephen.cresswell@...
stephen.cres...
May 29, 2009 1:01 pm
"but that includes j ust catching and printing" should be "but that includes just catching and printing"...
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stephen.cresswell@...
stephen.cres...
May 29, 2009 1:01 pm
"There are different opinions about whether test values should be literals..." I'd like to see more of these types of discussions, weighing up the pros & cons,...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
May 21, 2009 9:37 pm
Just republished to the website. We've been doing a lot of work in Parts III and IV, and some rework in the example. Unfortunately, the diagrams seem to have...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
May 21, 2009 9:36 pm
OK. It's gone. ... Steve Freeman Winner of the Agile Alliance Gordon Pask award 2006 http://www.m3p.co.uk M3P Limited. Registered office. 2 Church Street,...
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nat_pryce
May 19, 2009 4:33 pm
... All feedback is useful. Thanks for letting us know. --Nat...
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stephen.cresswell@...
stephen.cres...
May 19, 2009 9:35 am
Sorry that my first comment is negative, but I find this an innapproriate, unnecessary and generalisation likely to cause offense. I'd suggest removing it, or...
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Nat Pryce
nat_pryce
Apr 30, 2009 9:46 pm
Hi all. I've just pushed a new version of the chapter on Testing Asynchronous Code that, I hope, explains things much more clearly. For a start, it now has...
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Nat Pryce
nat_pryce
Apr 30, 2009 9:44 pm
Thanks Matt. I've just pushed a new version of the persistence chapter that addresses those points. --Nat ... -- http://www.natpryce.com...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Apr 26, 2009 5:06 pm
Hmmm. I try to but I'm not sure I can remember :) That last update was mostly around Parts III and IV S....
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Matt Wynne
mattwynneatf...
Apr 20, 2009 8:07 am
Some feedback on this as I read through it: Example Scenario * Paragraph #2: 'A customer has a contact address and, if they have a credit card, card has a...
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Matt Wynne
mattwynneatf...
Apr 20, 2009 8:06 am
As these updates come in thick and fast, it's quite hard to keep up with you! Could you quickly recap which chapters you'd most like feedback on, in priority...