Just to emphasise the point, I once experimented with writing bash scripts TDD. It took a lot of ingenuity but did actually lead to scripts that matched the...
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Nat Pryce
nat_pryce
Aug 20, 2008 8:28 am
... Of course we're going to use mock objects! Have you read the table of contents? In an OO design it is important to distinguish between an object's ...
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Robi Yagel
robi.yagel
Aug 20, 2008 10:50 am
Are you interested in those? Anyway I enjoy the reading and this is my micro-cent: "feedback is a" -> "feedback as a" "first first" -> redundant "first' "be...
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alexgsingh
Aug 20, 2008 8:54 pm
Hi guys, I saw your presentation on InfoQ and basically wanted to know more about what work you guys we into and noticed that you are currently getting this...
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nat_pryce
Aug 21, 2008 12:02 pm
Hi all. There's now quite a few people in this group, some of whom we don't know (or we don't recognise your Yahoo IDs). Time for introductions! Please...
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Kim Gräsman
kimgrasman
Aug 21, 2008 12:32 pm
Hello, My name's Kim Gräsman, I'm a software developer in the outskirts of the Microsoft sphere. I've been doing Microsoft-style C++ development for 10-odd...
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Nat Pryce
nat_pryce
Aug 21, 2008 12:48 pm
... We are not going to go into much more detail because it's not really what the book is about. We assume, throughout the book, that the system is being...
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Kerry Buckley
kerryjbuckley
Aug 21, 2008 12:56 pm
Hello, I'm Kerry Buckley. I'm a developer at BT in Ipswich, UK, where I've worked for 15 years, arriving as an electronic engineering graduate and falling into...
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merlyn.albery
Aug 21, 2008 3:07 pm
I'm Merlyn Albery-Speyer. I'm a software developer based in Portland, OR, USA. I love to code and always have. I'm very interested in both software engineering...
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haroldsphsu
Aug 21, 2008 5:38 pm
Hi all, I am Harold Hsu. I'm a software developer based in Vancouver, Canada. Most of my career (about 11 years) has been working with Microsoft...
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vladimir.trofimov
vladimir.tro...
Aug 21, 2008 5:38 pm
Hi, Here the first iteration. I am Vladimir Trofimov. I have been developing software since 1991 in France (a situs not far from Iraq) mostly in badly...
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alexgsingh
Aug 21, 2008 6:50 pm
Hi Nat Thanks for the reply. I guess a glossary and appendix is always useful. I have been reading a lot into TDD, CI, AGILE, XP, SCRUM, RUP, OpenUP and am...
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isaiahperumalla
Aug 21, 2008 7:53 pm
Hey Guys My name is Isaiah, been developing software almost 6 years now. Over the last year and a half i been trying to use mocks to aid my TDD process, but i...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Aug 21, 2008 9:20 pm
I'm the other perpetrator of this book. I've been writing software (ahem) quite a long time, having started with a Pascal course on the Manchester Atlas (last...
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alexgsingh
Aug 21, 2008 9:22 pm
Hi Guys I have just read chapters 2 and 3 and think that it's not a bad start as you have introduced several concepts and also stated where you will elaborate...
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alexgsingh
Aug 21, 2008 9:22 pm
Hi I am Alex Singh and I have been developing for 6 years now. I saw the light (in terms of TDD, AGILE and other techniques/methodologies) roughly 18 months to...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Aug 21, 2008 9:26 pm
We're always open to comment, we're too close to this material to judge how it appears. Our intention is that this is not an introductory book, Dave Astels' ...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Aug 21, 2008 9:30 pm
thanks fixed S ... Steve Freeman Winner of the Agile Alliance Gordon Pask award 2006 http://www.m3p.co.uk M3P Limited. Registered office. 2 Church Street,...
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jamiedobsondotcodotuk
jamiedobsond...
Aug 22, 2008 1:27 pm
Hi Everyone, My name is Jamie Dobson. I think I know some of you on this list. Steve and I have eaten and hung out at a few conferences. I met Nat in 2005 at...
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Romilly Cocking
romillyuk
Aug 22, 2008 4:23 pm
Hi, I'm Romilly Cocking. I've known Nat and Steve for a while. I met them through Extreme Tuesday Club<http://www.xpdeveloper.net/xpdwiki/Wiki.jsp?page=XtC>- a...
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Phil Quitslund
p_quit
Aug 22, 2008 4:37 pm
Hey all, My name is Phil Quitslund. I'm a Java developer/consultant working primarily in the Eclipse/RCP space. I live in Portland, Oregon (in the US). I've...
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vladimir.trofimov
vladimir.tro...
Aug 22, 2008 11:39 pm
Hi everybody. I think that this chapter 3 is the best among the chapters 1 â€" 3. It’s very well equilibrated and focused on one principal and ...
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Carlo Jelmini
jelminicarlo
Aug 23, 2008 6:16 am
Hi all, My name is Carlo Jelmini. I'm a Java developer/consultant working in Geneva, Switzerland. I discovered XP and agility in 2000, and since then I try to ...
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Rhydian Thomas
rhydiant
Aug 23, 2008 8:34 am
Hi I'm Rhydian Thomas. I'm relatively new to the industry compared to most - for the past 5 years I've been working for a wireless research and development...
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Robi Yagel
robi.yagel
Aug 23, 2008 8:06 pm
Hello, I'm Robi (Reuven) Yagel, living in Israel. Started programming as a kid (my first lang. was Basic on the 16 bit TI-99, ...
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Thiago Delgado Pinto
thiago_dp
Aug 24, 2008 7:49 am
Hi Nat and Steve, It would be better if you describe the structure of a *Unit and a *Mock BEFORE to start showing examples in JUnit or jMock. For instance:...
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robi.yagel
Aug 24, 2008 1:54 pm
Well, starting on Chap. 5, with actual code and tools, what about us from the other camp, i.e. MS.Net? I know you are citizens of the J kingdom, but is there a...
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Nat Pryce
nat_pryce
Aug 24, 2008 2:00 pm
... The book focuses on *techniques* not technologies. We give just enough introduction to the tools to allow people who are not familiar with them to follow...
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Steve Freeman
smg_freeman
Aug 24, 2008 10:50 pm
I think you'll also find that most everything we talk about is available in some form in the .Net world. There are matchers in NUnit and several .Net mock...
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jamiedobsondotcodotuk
jamiedobsond...
Aug 25, 2008 9:57 am
I disagree with this. Make it real asap. We waste a lot of time reading/listen to people explain abstract concepts without showing examples. The code paints...
