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Hi, Steve and Nat. A) In chapter 5 you say that “…For the rest of the book we're going to use Java, with the JUnit 4 and jMock 2 testing ...
1 Sep 8, 2008
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Hi, Nat and Steve. The link to “the discussion list” in the post “chapter 9” ( http://www.mockobjects.com/ <http://www.mockobjects.com/> ) actually...
1 Sep 8, 2008
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Hi Steve and Nat, Just a question. By putting your book on safari, you’ve created a double Feedback Loop. What are the rules of interaction between these two...
1 Sep 6, 2008
3:33 pm

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Hi Steve and Nat, Very briefly. It’s more simple for me to see and understand your chapter 7 as it were the inception phase of RUP of something like that. ...
5 Sep 6, 2008
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I don't think the intention of methods like this one are is clear enough: driver.showsSniperStatus(STATUS_JOINING); To me, that method sounds like it's going...
1 Sep 5, 2008
9:26 am

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I think your book is fantastic. There are a couple of things that I don't follow in Chapter 1. The TDD cycle: I don't understand the link between "Refactor";...
1 Sep 1, 2008
6:03 pm

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I generally leave typos for the editors to catch, but this clouds the meaning. In the first paragraph, "missed a couple of attractive items because they could...
2 Sep 1, 2008
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Hi Steve and Nat, Just a remark. In chapter 7 you speak about bidding protocol: "They send us a document that describes their bidding protocol" and almost at...
2 Aug 31, 2008
10:59 pm

Steve Freeman
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Hi Steve and Nat, Just to close (in disorder) some threads and all that. 1. It seems that the "legacy" link "…test end-to-end [Cockburn04]" in chapter 2 must...
1 Aug 30, 2008
6:32 pm

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Dear All, Is the book about how to use TDD tools or TDD as learning process? Cos, I did not see any paragraphs that describe TDD basic cycle. Or You do not...
4 Aug 29, 2008
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Good chapter. Small point: “So, first we will code up a test to describe our intentions as clearly as we can, given the expressive limits of Java” ...
3 Aug 28, 2008
2:24 pm

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Well, starting on Chap. 5, with actual code and tools, what about us from the other camp, i.e. MS.Net? I know you are citizens of the J kingdom, but is there a...
5 Aug 27, 2008
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We've just added a side-bar about kick-starting TDD for legacy (or "brownfield&quot;) projects. --Nat...
3 Aug 27, 2008
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No real critical points. Just two comments, I am thinking out-loud. 1) Not important: With regards to junit: "It's small and available everywhere". This is ...
2 Aug 26, 2008
10:36 pm

Nat Pryce
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Hi Steve and Nat, A) As you write yourself at the very end of the chapter: “…What really matters, however, is not the implementation we happened to come up...
3 Aug 26, 2008
10:35 pm

Nat Pryce
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Hi Nat and Steve, It would be better if you describe the structure of a *Unit and a *Mock BEFORE to start showing examples in JUnit or jMock. For instance:...
4 Aug 25, 2008
10:39 pm

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Hi everybody. I think that this chapter 3 is the best among the chapters 1 " 3. It’s very well equilibrated and focused on one principal and ...
1 Aug 22, 2008
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Are you interested in those? Anyway I enjoy the reading and this is my micro-cent: "feedback is a" -> "feedback as a" "first first" -> redundant "first&#39; "be...
2 Aug 21, 2008
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Steve Freeman
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Hi guys, I saw your presentation on InfoQ and basically wanted to know more about what work you guys we into and noticed that you are currently getting this...
4 Aug 21, 2008
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Steve Freeman
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Hi, everybody. A) I have read all three chapters so my first concern with the ch.2 is global (transverse if you want): I feel that the level and the place of...
7 Aug 21, 2008
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Hi guys, Steve, as you know, I am with a client right now and am kicking them off with the basics. I just read chapter one, to check if it was suitable for my...
13 Aug 20, 2008
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Nat Pryce
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Hi, I agree with earlier comments that the text so far is just the right length. I personally hate to read pages of text when I think the concept can be...
4 Aug 18, 2008
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Nat Pryce
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Hi, just some nuances I am not a native English speaker nor writer so my style is necessarily in form of a table. Feedback is the Fundamental Tool A) It...
2 Aug 17, 2008
11:02 pm

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I found chapter 3 - "Kick-Starting the Test-Driven Cycle" a really interesting read. Are there any plans to elaborate a bit on the discussion of broad brush...
3 Aug 14, 2008
12:25 pm

Steve Freeman
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Hi Nat and Steve, Before starting please understand that English is not my mothers language, so i might have misunderstood or simply missed stuff you wrote or...
2 Aug 12, 2008
1:01 pm

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This first point is a bit nitpicky: “As an acceptance test, it must run end-to-end to give us the feedback we need about the system's external...
2 Aug 8, 2008
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Nat Pryce
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At the beginning of the section “Unit Testing Collaborating Objects” you say that “We appear to have painted ourselves into a corner”. In the previous...
3 Aug 8, 2008
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I very much like the diagrams that you're using from your Mock Objects slides. The very fact that they're hand drawn makes them that more appealing. The...
4 Aug 8, 2008
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Nat Pryce
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Thanks for posting up the contents to the book. What would you say the scope of the book is? Are you going to bring up the continuous integration side of TDD...
4 Jul 18, 2008
6:52 pm

Nat Pryce
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Firstly, do you have any questions to direct the feedback? Secondly, I personally would have an easier time reading the material and putting it into context if...
3 Jul 18, 2008
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