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Re: Not to beat a dead horse...but

--- In hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "edamjr" <abaddon@a...>
wrote:
> --- In hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "David Wade" <dave@d...>
> wrote:
>
> >I don't think IBM is happy about us using VM/370 or MVS3.8J
>
> You've hit the nail on the head. No names, no pack drill, can't say
> any more, but according to a well-known IBMer I spoke to a year
ago,
> that is precisely the case.
>
> Having said that, that doesn't at all square with what other people
> have heard from IBM.
>

I guess a lot depends on who you speak to. As its "beyond their
control" then I don't think they will have a "corperate policy" on
it. I bet that some of the technical staff are happy about it and
would like more folks to join up. Others in the "Corperate Image
Department" and who have enough brain left to form a personal
opinion, would probably like to "send the boys round" to explain to
us why its a bad idea:-)

Any way where I am working at present they are itching to consign the
mainframe to the crusher. I doubt if IBM care as the only reveune it
generates for them is from a few copies of PC Comms every month.
<<we do buy other Kit from IBM but that is on merit>>

> >SUN OS 4.1.3 is also avaiable free for older SUN 3 machines
>
> In fact, I seem to recall that current releases of Solaris are/were
> available for hobbyist use for a nominal ($10 or thereabouts)
charge.
> Certainly this was the case 4-5 years ago, I bought one!
>

I was going to say "Alas No Longer" but it appears I am wrong. You
can download Solaris "free" for non-commercial use.

http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/index.html

Including the X86 version. Now if only IBM would do the same for zVM.
Of course if we all had it free at home they would also find it hard
to justify the huge mark up they have on Mainframe services :-(


> Mike

Dave




Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:21 pm

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David, I don't think IBM is happy about us using VM/370 or MVS3.8J, but there is very little they can do about it. I am sure they find it very embarassing that...
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... You've hit the nail on the head. No names, no pack drill, can't say any more, but according to a well-known IBMer I spoke to a year ago, that is precisely...
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... ago, ... I guess a lot depends on who you speak to. As its "beyond their control" then I don't think they will have a "corperate policy" on it. I bet that...
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