I am sad to say that my employer is equally determined to get rid of the
mainframe. Even the concept of server consolidation with Linux has had
no appeal to them even in the face of millions of dollars in savings
from doing so. Much of the opposition to the mainframe has been the
result of decisions made by the mainframe group over the years that
still plague us. No recognition that these problems are not inherent in
the mainframe but are our internal problems that can be fixed seems to
get through :'( . I know because I have tried and been told to "shut up."

Harold Grovesteen

David Wade wrote:

> --- In hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "edamjr" <abaddon@a...>
> wrote:
> > --- In hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "David Wade" <dave@d...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I don't think IBM is happy about us using VM/370 or MVS3.8J
> >
> > You've hit the nail on the head. No names, no pack drill, can't say
> > any more, but according to a well-known IBMer I spoke to a year
> ago,
> > that is precisely the case.
> >
> > Having said that, that doesn't at all square with what other people
> > have heard from IBM.
> >
>
> I guess a lot depends on who you speak to. As its "beyond their
> control" then I don't think they will have a "corperate policy" on
> it. I bet that some of the technical staff are happy about it and
> would like more folks to join up. Others in the "Corperate Image
> Department" and who have enough brain left to form a personal
> opinion, would probably like to "send the boys round" to explain to
> us why its a bad idea:-)
>
> Any way where I am working at present they are itching to consign the
> mainframe to the crusher. I doubt if IBM care as the only reveune it
> generates for them is from a few copies of PC Comms every month.
> <<we do buy other Kit from IBM but that is on merit>>
>
> > >SUN OS 4.1.3 is also avaiable free for older SUN 3 machines
> >
> > In fact, I seem to recall that current releases of Solaris are/were
> > available for hobbyist use for a nominal ($10 or thereabouts)
> charge.
> > Certainly this was the case 4-5 years ago, I bought one!
> >
>
> I was going to say "Alas No Longer" but it appears I am wrong. You
> can download Solaris "free" for non-commercial use.
>
> http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/index.html
>
> Including the X86 version. Now if only IBM would do the same for zVM.
> Of course if we all had it free at home they would also find it hard
> to justify the huge mark up they have on Mainframe services :-(
>
>
> > Mike
>
> Dave
>
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